Alibaba Changzhou Julang Biotech (BEWARE)

[mghoward74]

I just want to inform me so members that Bert Cai from Changzhou Julang Biotech company, which works through Alibaba is not a good to go source.

Story:
@Ayym8 created a thread about Alibaba Gh. He claimed to have Changzhou Julang Biotech's hgh tested. Test was done by the @Analyzer. I contacted Ayym8 and he verified the test were good and the company was good to go.

I made contact with the source.

The source and I agreed on price and amount. 1st item arrived. During this time another member had the same gh tested. Test results are not favorable. Contact was made with Alibaba source and was informed of the bad results.

Here's where it gets interesting

Source claims after he sent Ayym8 his gh, he then switched manufacturers, which is the cause for bad test results. Why would you switch manufactures???? Especially after having good results?

Source refunded me for my 1st order, but not the whole refund. Meanwhile my 2nd order was a few days from delivery during this entire debacle. Source notified me saying my 2nd order would be completely refunded and to keep the order because it tested bad. A few days later, the source want to send me a few kits worth the price of the 2nd refund. I kindly respond no. He says it's from the original supplier/manufacturer. I reply "no, just refund me my money". Well guess what, I get a notification saying package is on the way....what the hell!

I notified the source this isn't how you conduct business. You don't just send out packs without notifying people and without their consent.

Now this so called gh source, now wants both packages back plus only wants to refund 1/2 the funds...is this guy nuts or what?

Needless to say the source hasnt refunded the other member his funds either (for the bad test results), nor mines.

To sum up this thread...Stay away from Bert Cai and Changzhou Julang Biotech from Alibaba...these guys are scammer.

 

[Recreational muscle]

Enough said, these fucks won’t get a single look from this direction much less any of my business. Thanks for the heads up, I’d blast them on other forums as well if I were you.

 

[AASraw]

The market is ruined by such stupid assholes. Be careful, all the time.

 

[fodsod]

Good that you posted this. The more I thought about it after our conversation it pissed me off even more. Fuck that guy.

 

[SuperSwede]

Stupid ass chinees.

 

[mands]

I just want to inform me so members that Bert Cai from Changzhou Julang Biotech company, which works through Alibaba is not a good to go source.

Story:
@Ayym8 created a thread about Alibaba Gh. He claimed to have Changzhou Julang Biotech's hgh tested. Test was done by the @Analyzer. I contacted Ayym8 and he verified the test were good and the company was good to go.

I made contact with the source.

The source and I agreed on price and amount. 1st item arrived. During this time another member had the same gh tested. Test results are not favorable. Contact was made with Alibaba source and was informed of the bad results.

Here's where it gets interesting

Source claims after he sent Ayym8 his gh, he then switched manufacturers, which is the cause for bad test results. Why would you switch manufactures???? Especially after having good results?

Source refunded me for my 1st order, but not the whole refund. Meanwhile my 2nd order was a few days from delivery during this entire debacle. Source notified me saying my 2nd order would be completely refunded and to keep the order because it tested bad. A few days later, the source want to send me a few kits worth the price of the 2nd refund. I kindly respond no. He says it's from the original supplier/manufacturer. I reply "no, just refund me my money". Well guess what, I get a notification saying package is on the way....what the hell!

I notified the source this isn't how you conduct business. You don't just send out packs without notifying people and without their consent.

Now this so called gh source, now wants both packages back plus only wants to refund 1/2 the funds...is this guy nuts or what?

Needless to say the source hasnt refunded the other member his funds either (for the bad test results), nor mines.

To sum up this thread...Stay away from Bert Cai and Changzhou Julang Biotech from Alibaba...these guys are scammer.

I guess he changed his tune since we chatted. I just don't get it with the sources man.

Thanks for updating everyone.

mands

 

[explorerspl]

I just want to inform me so members that Bert Cai from Changzhou Julang Biotech company, which works through Alibaba is not a good to go source.

Story:
@Ayym8 created a thread about Alibaba Gh. He claimed to have Changzhou Julang Biotech's hgh tested. Test was done by the @Analyzer. I contacted Ayym8 and he verified the test were good and the company was good to go.

I made contact with the source.

The source and I agreed on price and amount. 1st item arrived. During this time another member had the same gh tested. Test results are not favorable. Contact was made with Alibaba source and was informed of the bad results.

Here's where it gets interesting

Source claims after he sent Ayym8 his gh, he then switched manufacturers, which is the cause for bad test results. Why would you switch manufactures???? Especially after having good results?

Source refunded me for my 1st order, but not the whole refund. Meanwhile my 2nd order was a few days from delivery during this entire debacle. Source notified me saying my 2nd order would be completely refunded and to keep the order because it tested bad. A few days later, the source want to send me a few kits worth the price of the 2nd refund. I kindly respond no. He says it's from the original supplier/manufacturer. I reply "no, just refund me my money". Well guess what, I get a notification saying package is on the way....what the hell!

I notified the source this isn't how you conduct business. You don't just send out packs without notifying people and without their consent.

Now this so called gh source, now wants both packages back plus only wants to refund 1/2 the funds...is this guy nuts or what?

Needless to say the source hasnt refunded the other member his funds either (for the bad test results), nor mines.

To sum up this thread...Stay away from Bert Cai and Changzhou Julang Biotech from Alibaba...these guys are scammer.

Ordered from them a week and a half ago lol not feeling too great now

 

[AASraw]

Stupid ass chinees.

Bro, watch your words. To add "some" into it will be better.

 

[ickyrica]

Bro, watch your words. To add "some" into it will be better.

Why the fuck are you out of your thread? You know we don't allow sources to do what you're doing, especially sources that have a heavy track record of lying to the Meso community like you have. Btw, how did that anavar cycle treat you? You turn that twink body into Arnolds yet? Wait, don't answer. I don't want to see pics of a different person again.

 

[Samael]

I just want to inform me so members that Bert Cai from Changzhou Julang Biotech company, which works through Alibaba is not a good to go source.

Story:
@Ayym8 created a thread about Alibaba Gh. He claimed to have Changzhou Julang Biotech's hgh tested. Test was done by the @Analyzer. I contacted Ayym8 and he verified the test were good and the company was good to go.

I made contact with the source.

The source and I agreed on price and amount. 1st item arrived. During this time another member had the same gh tested. Test results are not favorable. Contact was made with Alibaba source and was informed of the bad results.

Here's where it gets interesting

Source claims after he sent Ayym8 his gh, he then switched manufacturers, which is the cause for bad test results. Why would you switch manufactures???? Especially after having good results?

Source refunded me for my 1st order, but not the whole refund. Meanwhile my 2nd order was a few days from delivery during this entire debacle. Source notified me saying my 2nd order would be completely refunded and to keep the order because it tested bad. A few days later, the source want to send me a few kits worth the price of the 2nd refund. I kindly respond no. He says it's from the original supplier/manufacturer. I reply "no, just refund me my money". Well guess what, I get a notification saying package is on the way....what the hell!

I notified the source this isn't how you conduct business. You don't just send out packs without notifying people and without their consent.

Now this so called gh source, now wants both packages back plus only wants to refund 1/2 the funds...is this guy nuts or what?

Needless to say the source hasnt refunded the other member his funds either (for the bad test results), nor mines.

To sum up this thread...Stay away from Bert Cai and Changzhou Julang Biotech from Alibaba...these guys are scammer.

Thank you for your contribution howard.
May I please know what made up your mind to order from this particular source on alibaba?
Thanks in advance

 

[Samael]

I just want to inform me so members that Bert Cai from Changzhou Julang Biotech company, which works through Alibaba is not a good to go source.

Story:
@Ayym8 created a thread about Alibaba Gh. He claimed to have Changzhou Julang Biotech's hgh tested. Test was done by the @Analyzer. I contacted Ayym8 and he verified the test were good and the company was good to go.

I made contact with the source.

The source and I agreed on price and amount. 1st item arrived. During this time another member had the same gh tested. Test results are not favorable. Contact was made with Alibaba source and was informed of the bad results.

Here's where it gets interesting

Source claims after he sent Ayym8 his gh, he then switched manufacturers, which is the cause for bad test results. Why would you switch manufactures???? Especially after having good results?

Source refunded me for my 1st order, but not the whole refund. Meanwhile my 2nd order was a few days from delivery during this entire debacle. Source notified me saying my 2nd order would be completely refunded and to keep the order because it tested bad. A few days later, the source want to send me a few kits worth the price of the 2nd refund. I kindly respond no. He says it's from the original supplier/manufacturer. I reply "no, just refund me my money". Well guess what, I get a notification saying package is on the way....what the hell!

I notified the source this isn't how you conduct business. You don't just send out packs without notifying people and without their consent.

Now this so called gh source, now wants both packages back plus only wants to refund 1/2 the funds...is this guy nuts or what?

Needless to say the source hasnt refunded the other member his funds either (for the bad test results), nor mines.

To sum up this thread...Stay away from Bert Cai and Changzhou Julang Biotech from Alibaba...these guys are scammer.

I'd like to give some insights if its possible.
I've checked mentioned supplier on alibaba, here is simple comparison I've made in paintjob to help you guys what to look for if you decide to source on alibaba.
It's not bulletproof of course, but you might have bigger chance for refund or better communication if you select supplier based on couple of simple elements:

Now as you can see it's 1 year vs 3 year of gold status supplier.
The longer the better, not universal rule but i personally wouldnt order from source which is just 1 year old, especially combined with ultra low 7000$ transaction level.

Next most importent part is transaction level for last 6 months.
Compare 34 transactions against 380 transactions.
7000 $ vs 250 000$.
I mean that's tremendous difference.
You can clearly see that these guys are getting orders and they must be doing something better then those retards at Julang Bioshit

Btw. I'm in no way affiliated with greenway but this is a good example what to look for, try to find supplier that has highest transaction level at least, and go from there.
Just my thoughts.

 

[Troy22]

I'd like to give some insights if its possible.
I've checked mentioned supplier on alibaba, here is simple comparison I've made in paintjob to help you guys what to look for if you decide to source on alibaba.
It's not bulletproof of course, but you might have bigger chance for refund or better communication if you select supplier based on couple of simple elements:

Now as you can see it's 1 year vs 3 year of gold status supplier.
The longer the better, not universal rule but i personally wouldnt order from source which is just 1 year old, especially combined with ultra low 7000$ transaction level.

Next most importent part is transaction level for last 6 months.
Compare 34 transactions against 380 transactions.
7000 $ vs 250 000$.
I mean that's tremendous difference.
You can clearly see that these guys are getting orders and they must be doing something better then those retards at Julang Bioshit

Btw. I'm in no way affiliated with greenway but this is a good example what to look for, try to find supplier that has highest transaction level at least, and go from there.
Just my thoughts.

No disrespect but comparing the amount of units sold is useless without testing done imo. All this means is they may have sent out $250,000 worth of underdosed GH.

 

[Samael]

No disrespect but comparing the amount of units sold is useless without testing done imo. All this means is they may have sent out $250,000 worth of underdosed GH.

No disrespect either but i disagree with your statement.
You got higher chance to get your money back when you deal with supplier with more units sold.
All this may mean as well might be that they know better how to conduct the business then previous company.
Im not endorsing it in any way, but you got higher chance then ordering from low level transaction company.
Check yourself on reddit

 

[Samael]

No disrespect but comparing the amount of units sold is useless without testing done imo. All this means is they may have sent out $250,000 worth of underdosed GH.

I think DanyP was mentioning that he received bunk HGH from them but got full refund.
Then howard mentioned he was not able to get full refund in his case and they got sketchy and what not.
Not very consistent, not worth it.
There is someone who got experience with supplier greenway I've mentioned as example, maybe he can mentioned is experience.

 

[mghoward74]

Thank you for your contribution howard.
May I please know what made up your mind to order from this particular source on alibaba?
Thanks in advance

What made my mind up, is when a member has test results that favor a source. More specifically when that member paid for his own testing, and that test was verified by the analyzer as being true.

I'd like to give some insights if its possible.
I've checked mentioned supplier on alibaba, here is simple comparison I've made in paintjob to help you guys what to look for if you decide to source on alibaba.
It's not bulletproof of course, but you might have bigger chance for refund or better communication if you select supplier based on couple of simple elements:

Now as you can see it's 1 year vs 3 year of gold status supplier.
The longer the better, not universal rule but i personally wouldnt order from source which is just 1 year old, especially combined with ultra low 7000$ transaction level.

Next most importent part is transaction level for last 6 months.
Compare 34 transactions against 380 transactions.
7000 $ vs 250 000$.
I mean that's tremendous difference.
You can clearly see that these guys are getting orders and they must be doing something better then those retards at Julang Bioshit

Btw. I'm in no way affiliated with greenway but this is a good example what to look for, try to find supplier that has highest transaction level at least, and go from there.
Just my thoughts.

The Alibab thread is where members are contributing to find the the next TP, PD, or HK source. When a new source comes around (this one particular), most are trying to succeed in business. He's a gold supplier, has trade assurance,, but the only difference between the 2 different companies are their time in business.

@DannyP was promised a refund. He hasnt refunded him yet. When speaking to Bert Cai, I told him him he needs to refund him, before refunding me, as it's the honorable thing to do. I spoke with Mr. Cai a few days ago... You know what he told me? I'll refund him when I get back from vacation. That's definitely not a guy you want to do business with. DannyP paid his money in a timely fashion, tested it, etc... Why does he have to wait? He should get his refund in a timely fashion.

There's entirely too much non sense going on behind closed doors through messaging with this guy.

There's supposedly a refund in the works, but until it's in my possession, there's no refund credited to me or DannyP

@Troy22 is absolutely correct

 

[mghoward74]

I guess he changed his tune since we chatted. I just don't get it with the sources man.

Thanks for updating everyone.

mands

Entirely new gh source since our conversation. That particular source shipped out a empty box. I'll start a thread on them shortly.

I know we talked about pharma gh. In my case I believe it cheaper to go pharma. The hassle of not knowing what some generics are, and the price of testing them, seems to be cheaper to go with pharma.... less of a headache!

Lol

Respectfully

 

[mands]

Entirely new gh source since our conversation. That particular source shipped out a empty box. I'll start a thread on them shortly.

I know we talked about pharma gh. In my case I believe it cheaper to go pharma. The hassle of not knowing what some generics are, and the price of testing them seems to be cheaper and with less of a headache

Respectfully

What a mess man. Keep us posted.

mands

 

[Beastn']

And I have people on this board telling me I'm talking crazy for saying Alibaba as a site is a joke. Can't even get slippers on alibaha that aren't garbage.

Honestly some of your old small asses could get it from a doc to begin with at your stage of life anyway! Good luck

To the unknowing, sorry that you got beat.

 

[mghoward74]

Bumping this thread.

So after due diligence, I can report that sometime ago I got my refund in full.

Future notice to guys who are using Alibaba. Use your trade agreement clause. Make sure you clearly state in your trade agreement, you paying for items as describe. If you put in your agreement that your purchasing 97% purity as well as 10iu per vial, that's what should be in your vial after it gets tested. If you're guaranteed delivery in 5 days, put it in your trade assurance agreement. Don't let Alibaba trick you into using bitcoin or paypal either.

If you do use paypal, then there's other options that can be done to get your refund.

@DannyP and myself have been refunded in full.

*Use your trade agreement clause from now on*

Respectfully

 

[LOVEMe89]

Thanks for all your efforts, finding a good source sounds like work but it could def pay off