AlphaGear Source

[ThunderNuts]

go as you will....

we can only help some.

quick question though.... how does lab pics sacrifice security???

aren't there pictures of Fort Knox and the White House available online???

lastly, your security should not be left in the hands of a source... using proper encryption and mailing procedures... you wont let that information get out there.
thats on YOU!!

You make me believe you are LE. Keep demanding the source give you all your evidence to make your job easier... lazy fuck.
And thinking the encrypted email is safe is completely ignorant. Keep feeding newbies that bullshit. Nobody is safe on the internet. But forcing that guy to give himself up... and then he does it?
Please, keep demanding incriminating evidence from sources.. like I said, it lets me know how not to fuck with. If he is stupid enough to let you cops bully him, he is stupid enough to keep my personal info and give it to you...so fuck off.
I'll keep reading though... just so I know who not to use. Thanks again for that.

 

[sin]

You make me believe you are LE. Keep demanding the source give you all your evidence to make your job easier... lazy fuck.
And thinking the encrypted email is safe is completely ignorant. Keep feeding newbies that bullshit. Nobody is safe on the internet. But forcing that guy to give himself up... and then he does it?
Please, keep demanding incriminating evidence from sources.. like I said, it lets me know how not to fuck with. If he is stupid enough to let you cops bully him, he is stupid enough to keep my personal info and give it to you...so fuck off.
I'll keep reading though... just so I know who not to use. Thanks again for that.

Incriminating evidence? A lab comes to a board and posts they sell roids and you have incriminating evidence. No one is asking for selfies next to their equipment, and any lab that doesn't want to comply doesn't have to but most will not purchase from them because we want to know the conditions in which the products we are injecting are produced. You're an idiot, obviously. Keep using labs that won't do anything to prove their legitimacy and when you end up with a major infection cause you injected some dirty bunk shit from some kitchen sink lab with no contamination control. And to come here and talk shit about the people wanting this proof, calling them out as cops. Makes absolutely zero sense. Please, enlighten me on the logical conquest you undertook to get to this conclusion. You're a waste of air on this earth.

 

[ThunderNuts]

Incriminating evidence? A lab comes to a board and posts they sell roids and you have incriminating evidence. No one is asking for selfies next to their equipment, and any lab that doesn't want to comply doesn't have to but most will not purchase from them because we want to know the conditions in which the products we are injecting are produced. You're an idiot, obviously. Keep using labs that won't do anything to prove their legitimacy and when you end up with a major infection cause you injected some dirty bunk shit from some kitchen sink lab with no contamination control. And to come here and talk shit about the people wanting this proof, calling them out as cops. Makes absolutely zero sense. Please, enlighten me on the logical conquest you undertook to get to this conclusion. You're a waste of air on this earth.

You believe what you wish. I've been in this game for 20 years and never had the cops knock at my door, so obviously, I know how to keep myself safe.
You cops keep arguing that i'm the idiot...lol that makes me laugh. Newb who dont know shit will believe you. I'm not a newb, but nice try, dickhead cop. fuck off. Any labs that show their operation online are stupid enough to expose me... that's my point. you can keep up with your ignorant shit all you want... the point is if they are stupid enough to expose themselves, they are stupid enough to expose me. I will keep myself safe... and thanks for exposing the idiots to us.
please, keep doing it.

any comment coming from this will get the same reply, you cops can keep exposing the morons who dont know how to protect themselves or me. thanks for making me aware of who they are. quite simple. nothing else to say.

btw..if you make your own shit, you dont have to worry about how they make it. DOH!
I do buy the odd oral and ancillary however... so I do need to know who I can trust. You boys here at Meso do such a good job. Keep up the good work!
I'm not kidding about that.....

 

[ThunderNuts]

Incriminating evidence? A lab comes to a board and posts they sell roids and you have incriminating evidence. No one is asking for selfies next to their equipment, and any lab that doesn't want to comply doesn't have to but most will not purchase from them because we want to know the conditions in which the products we are injecting are produced. You're an idiot, obviously. Keep using labs that won't do anything to prove their legitimacy and when you end up with a major infection cause you injected some dirty bunk shit from some kitchen sink lab with no contamination control. And to come here and talk shit about the people wanting this proof, calling them out as cops. Makes absolutely zero sense. Please, enlighten me on the logical conquest you undertook to get to this conclusion. You're a waste of air on this earth.

hey sin...i think you are a cop too... less than a month and kissing cops balls....way to go big boy.

 

[sin]

You believe what you wish. I've been in this game for 20 years and never had the cops knock at my door, so obviously, I know how to keep myself safe.
You cops keep arguing that i'm the idiot...lol that makes me laugh. Newb who dont know shit will believe you. I'm not a newb, but nice try, dickhead cop. fuck off. Any labs that show their operation online are stupid enough to expose me... that's my point. you can keep up with your ignorant shit all you want... the point is if they are stupid enough to expose themselves, they are stupid enough to expose me. I will keep myself safe... and thanks for exposing the idiots to us.
please, keep doing it.

any comment coming from this will get the same reply, you cops can keep exposing the morons who dont know how to protect themselves or me. thanks for making me aware of who they are. quite simple. nothing else to say.

btw..if you make your own shit, you dont have to worry about how they make it. DOH!
I do buy the odd oral and ancillary however... so I do need to know who I can trust. You boys here at Meso do such a good job. Keep up the good work!
I'm not kidding about that.....

Thanks for showing me logically how you came to that conclusion :| IT appears you have the reasoning capabilities of an infant. And, if you are making your own stuff then why the fuck are you here? 20 years of experience and you come to a forum for online sources? What, did the guys you were blowing for your gear finally catch your herpes? If im a cop, then my city owes me some damn money cause I be broke as fuck.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

You make me believe you are LE. Keep demanding the source give you all your evidence to make your job easier... lazy fuck.
And thinking the encrypted email is safe is completely ignorant. Keep feeding newbies that bullshit. Nobody is safe on the internet. But forcing that guy to give himself up... and then he does it?
Please, keep demanding incriminating evidence from sources.. like I said, it lets me know how not to fuck with. If he is stupid enough to let you cops bully him, he is stupid enough to keep my personal info and give it to you...so fuck off.
I'll keep reading though... just so I know who not to use. Thanks again for that.

Is there anybody you haven't had a problem with, Numbnuts?

I had you pegged on your first post. Idiots like you are a dime a dozen. Your big mouth and username name give you away as a little man with a tiny pecker. To bad your mouth won't make up for your lack of size, son. Fuck you with a rake.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Thanks for showing me logically how you came to that conclusion :| IT appears you have the reasoning capabilities of an infant. And, if you are making your own stuff then why the fuck are you here? 20 years of experience and you come to a forum for online sources? What, did the guys you were blowing for your gear finally catch your herpes? If im a cop, then my city owes me some damn money cause I be broke as fuck.

Ignore this Nancy, he's a punk kid with a little dick. Anybody that has to run around telling the world they're not a noob IS a noob. Fuck him - he's a loser.

 

[sin]

hey sin...i think you are a cop too... less than a month and kissing cops balls....way to go big boy.

lol I'm not "kissing cops balls" I have no friends here. Been here a month. What I do have is an education and the ability to think critically. You seem to be missing out on these two necessary traits. But keep the cop naming charade up it's entertain that you think anyone who disagrees with you is a cop. But if you assume Im or anyone else is a cop, then why you keep posting here. Idk but to me, i wouldn't be hanging out where I believe cops do. Especially to discuss criminal activities. So maybe just do meso a favor and leave?

and yes, I've been here under a month? I have no idea what that has to do with anything, I could have started this damn website and be just as clueless as anyone, post count does not necessarily imply legitimacy or validity of anyone's post.. Like I've said you obviously lack reasoning skills. I suggest looking up a list of logical fallacies, might help you with your less than less than spectacular reasoning abilities.

 

[pumpingiron22]

Look every one. alpha had his chance. He showed nothing but a home brew kit that’s it and a bunch of lies. He said he would work on his p2p and email. These are things a good source should already have in place. So this tells me he here to make a quick buck. You might get your gear but then you get sick then where is he.... Gone He would sell you out in a sec if he got caught and he knows no knowledge of protecting your info. Dangerous. People that stick up for scum like this are idiots the kind of people that would sell their self or sell there so called best friends in a sec if it brought them any gains. Alpha got more than a chance we were nice and waited and even help him in the right direction he does not care. All sources that have gone through this and all the questions had it a lot more harder this is us being nice. A source has to prove there self to us yes we have high standers we care about are bodies and are health and you should too some of you guy might think you are invincible and nothing can happen to you wrong. I've had good friends almost die for bathroom gear it’s not a joke it serious if you care about your self's and your friends stay away from this guy.
Alpha I was more than nice to you and still you lack communication tack and do not know how to follow the rules. I was nice enough to offer doing a log for you. But you would not follow the rules so i said no. I have your info and ip safe mail is no good my friend. Plus if you are really a father you would not put your kids in the same house that you are cooking shit in. you disgust me. You are done find another board to peddle crap. If you keep posting I will be here to keep warning people. Good day sir
Thanks,PI

 

[Juice n Goose]

Fair enough, do not trust me in the slightest- I wouldn't, since this is a public board. What I will say is this- there is a certain point where attempting to "protect the board" starts to make source vetting more onerous then it is worth.I have no knowledge of his gear or his process. What I do know is that this is the one guy that has tried to comply with the overly complicated, poorly thought out "code of conduct" that members here have put together; and for that, the source gets thrown to the fire.

I don't expect my opinion to carry weight, just that you consider what I've said. Paranoia will produce no progress, but coordination will.

Paranoia is an ungrounded fear often generated by instability.
What we worry about is NOT ungrounded as we've seen it a thousand times.
Trying to live up to a standard is not the same as living up to that standard,and when I see a source so befuddled with a concept as simple as a PGP,that SERIOUSLY worries me.
And this should have been put in place long before sales have begun.
Already ..any of you who have purchased may have your info safely nestled in LE's databanks.
This AAS free for all wont last forever!
LE knows eventually there will be headlines in papers"thousands of users and providers of AAS BUSTED!!"
It will be you:Users of the unvetted and security measures unused!!
Please Guys..Youve gone this long without this source..cant you help yourselves in NOT using the unvetted?
Its not my behind who'll be sitting in the Pokey!
I dont wanna see YOU there! Thats ALL! NO HIDDEN AGENDA!!
ALPHA is NOT SECURE NOR VETTED!!
ALPHA...COME OUT AND PLAYAAAY!!!!
Goose

 

[Juice n Goose]

You believe what you wish. I've been in this game for 20 years and never had the cops knock at my door, so obviously, I know how to keep myself safe.
You cops keep arguing that i'm the idiot...lol that makes me laugh. Newb who dont know shit will believe you. I'm not a newb, but nice try, dickhead cop. fuck off. Any labs that show their operation online are stupid enough to expose me... that's my point. you can keep up with your ignorant shit all you want... the point is if they are stupid enough to expose themselves, they are stupid enough to expose me. I will keep myself safe... and thanks for exposing the idiots to us.
please, keep doing it.

any comment coming from this will get the same reply, you cops can keep exposing the morons who dont know how to protect themselves or me. thanks for making me aware of who they are. quite simple. nothing else to say.

btw..if you make your own shit, you dont have to worry about how they make it. DOH!
I do buy the odd oral and ancillary however... so I do need to know who I can trust. You boys here at Meso do such a good job. Keep up the good work!
I'm not kidding about that.....

Thats bullshit! We concern ourselves how its made because many of the Members here are our BROS!!
THAT is why we do it..to protect our Bros!
God..What a DUMB-A**!!!
Friggin Gumbah!
Dont you care if people fall prey to scammers or LE?
WELL.DONT YOU! or are you a one man show too???
Alpha...We are WAITING!!!!!
Goose

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Thats bullshit! We concern ourselves how its made because many of the Members here are our BROS!!
THAT is why we do it..to protect our Bros!
God..What a DUMB-A**!!!
Friggin Gumbah!
Dont you care if people fall prey to scammers or LE?
WELL.DONT YOU! or are you a one man show too???
Alpha...We are WAITING!!!!!
Goose

TinyNuts sounds like an airedale.

 

[blackfish]

Paranoia is an ungrounded fear often generated by instability.
What we worry about is NOT ungrounded as we've seen it a thousand times.
Trying to live up to a standard is not the same as living up to that standard,and when I see a source so befuddled with a concept as simple as a PGP,that SERIOUSLY worries me.
And this should have been put in place long before sales have begun.
Already ..any of you who have purchased may have your info safely nestled in LE's databanks.
This AAS free for all wont last forever!
LE knows eventually there will be headlines in papers"thousands of users and providers of AAS BUSTED!!"
It will be you:Users of the unvetted and security measures unused!!
Please Guys..Youve gone this long without this source..cant you help yourselves in NOT using the unvetted?
Its not my behind who'll be sitting in the Pokey!
I dont wanna see YOU there! Thats ALL! NO HIDDEN AGENDA!!
ALPHA is NOT SECURE NOR VETTED!!
ALPHA...COME OUT AND PLAYAAAY!!!!
Goose

Fair enough, the PGP thing is worrisome. I still think the pictures are a step too far- I won't pretend to know what personal info can be gleaned from those, but it is still information that has a higher than average chance of being personally identifiable.

I was being sarcastic/kind of douchey about the code of conduct since it doesn't have teeth, and its more a list of somewhat unreasonable demands that no one has been able or willing to meet. For something like that to actually work, this board would need a loose agreement to not purchase from a source that doesn't provide a minimal level of verification; to my mind, these are:
1. Third party labmax (member from here would do the test)
2. A log by a member (unknown to the source) with bloods
3. PGP.

There is no way to ensure sterility without someone being the guinea pig, and whatever photoshopped crap a source provides doesn't change that. Also, the juvenile insults and rampant paranoia just makes people look like morons.

 

[USCballin]

Ok...so sorting through all the shit on this thread from the last few days after not logging in to keep track on the developments...looks like he STILL has not complied with the PGP requests, the images of the lab operations, and especially his old handle...

And where the hell has he been this whole time? Did he just check out? He started off very well, but he certainly petered out rather than burn out in a flash. This is all disappointing to say the absolute least....

 

[AlphaGear]

I haven't had the chance to read all the pages of posts from today. I'll try to touch on at least some of the things mentioned.

My labels - I've never seen labels from another source that are similar to mine. But, apparently there are. My name was actually based off of the design I had in mind. I love chemistry and I'm also a fan of the show Breaking Bad. I thought I was being clever since Aluminum and Germanium fit they way I wanted. I didn't intentionally steal any sources design. If it's a problem, I can spend another 45 seconds hastily designing new ones.

My old handle - In no way or shape do I suspect my old handle to sway anyone's opinion of me, rather for the good or poor. But, there is one post in particular that could pretty easily reveal the gym I frequent.

PGP - Thanks for the video golden. I'll watch that and hopefully that will clear things up. I have a tendency to overcomplicate things.

Sterilization - I run about 200mL worth of solution through a .45um filter. Then I run 100mL through per .22um filter. I use a low amount of pressure. The filtration process takes longer, but it's worth it. Most people I know try to filter as quickly as possible. But, when too much pressure is applied to a filter, it can actually cause the filter to become comprised. Meaning, impurities can begin to make their way through the filter. This is something that typically wouldn't be able to be noticed by the naked eye. I try to begin with the most sterile product possible, and have it remain that way, even up until filtering. I've heard many people say "it doesn't matter how impure it is before it is filtered. The filtering will remove everything". While that may be true in a sense, filtering dirty gear will only add to compromising your filters. If anyone has more particular questions, feel free to ask.

Like I've mentioned, everything has been shipped, unless other arrangements were requested. Many sources will have other people do a lot of footwork for them. Partnering up seems to often end poorly. Because if you have a partner, you have someone to blame for your shortcomings. So I do my best to get everything shipped as soon as possible. But I also take precautions. For now on, I will be requesting tracking for every pack. This is so I can confirm what has and hasn't been delivered. At this point, if someone says their pack didn't land, I have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Not enough time has gone by for me to think this has happened. I'm just learning certain things as I go.

My "buddy" who is a source on another board isn't my partner. I don't know him in real life. I respect the way he does business and that's why I contacted him for advice. He was surprisingly helpful. But aside from some pointers, we're not affiliated. I have no affiliations with anyone.

I've been doing the best I can to be compliant with the wishes of the community, as well as protecting myself. I still have some messages to reply to. I'll be getting to those shortly. Just wanted to give an update. I'll also read back through the posts here.

AG

 

[pumpingiron22]

Name the other boards you are on. And what are your handles over there???

 

[1fnprick]

Are we writing a book or working out?
I mean fuck what good is this guys handle going to do us!
He has compiled with more than most.
I mean damn there has already been a few people bought his gear we will know soon the quality. If u don't criticize the hell out out of them and listen.

 

[AlphaGear]

Name the other boards you are on. And what are your handles over there???

The only other board I used was eroids. I would look for the "hidden gem" sources on there. Something about the top 10 ones give me a bad feeling. I had both negative and positive experiences on that board. I only posted a couple times probably. I stuck to email for the sources I contacted. And used my handle there mostly to be able to read everything in the source description, as well as lurk over reviews and discussion pages. My handle there was BTR4. I only used that particular handle on that site. I know I didn't post anything revealing from that handle either.

AG

 

[USCballin]

I haven't had the chance to read all the pages of posts from today. I'll try to touch on at least some of the things mentioned.

My labels - I've never seen labels from another source that are similar to mine. But, apparently there are. My name was actually based off of the design I had in mind. I love chemistry and I'm also a fan of the show Breaking Bad. I thought I was being clever since Aluminum and Germanium fit they way I wanted. I didn't intentionally steal any sources design. If it's a problem, I can spend another 45 seconds hastily designing new ones.

My old handle - In no way or shape do I suspect my old handle to sway anyone's opinion of me, rather for the good or poor. But, there is one post in particular that could pretty easily reveal the gym I frequent.

PGP - Thanks for the video golden. I'll watch that and hopefully that will clear things up. I have a tendency to overcomplicate things.

Sterilization - I run about 200mL worth of solution through a .45um filter. Then I run 100mL through per .22um filter. I use a low amount of pressure. The filtration process takes longer, but it's worth it. Most people I know try to filter as quickly as possible. But, when too much pressure is applied to a filter, it can actually cause the filter to become comprised. Meaning, impurities can begin to make their way through the filter. This is something that typically wouldn't be able to be noticed by the naked eye. I try to begin with the most sterile product possible, and have it remain that way, even up until filtering. I've heard many people say "it doesn't matter how impure it is before it is filtered. The filtering will remove everything". While that may be true in a sense, filtering dirty gear will only add to compromising your filters. If anyone has more particular questions, feel free to ask.

Like I've mentioned, everything has been shipped, unless other arrangements were requested. Many sources will have other people do a lot of footwork for them. Partnering up seems to often end poorly. Because if you have a partner, you have someone to blame for your shortcomings. So I do my best to get everything shipped as soon as possible. But I also take precautions. For now on, I will be requesting tracking for every pack. This is so I can confirm what has and hasn't been delivered. At this point, if someone says their pack didn't land, I have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Not enough time has gone by for me to think this has happened. I'm just learning certain things as I go.

My "buddy" who is a source on another board isn't my partner. I don't know him in real life. I respect the way he does business and that's why I contacted him for advice. He was surprisingly helpful. But aside from some pointers, we're not affiliated. I have no affiliations with anyone.

I've been doing the best I can to be compliant with the wishes of the community, as well as protecting myself. I still have some messages to reply to. I'll be getting to those shortly. Just wanted to give an update. I'll also read back through the posts here.

AG

AG, regarding item #2, let us here on MESO be the judge of whether or not one lousy single post will damage your professional integrity. If it's only one post, then you've just admitted it can make a huge difference in whether or not we can trust you....in any case, your total refusal to disclose it to us is doing 100 times more damage to you that your single questionable post. You're better off just biting the fucking bullet and disclosing it than making it any worse for yourself than it already is. In other words, I can't trust someone that hides behind another handle knowing full well that every single potential client is calling for your head if you don't disclose. It's what kept me from spending my hard earned money.

 

[03xx52]

AG, regarding item #2, let us here on MESO be the judge of whether or not one lousy single post will damage your professional integrity. If it's only one post, then you've just admitted it can make a huge difference in whether or not we can trust you....in any case, your total refusal to disclose it to us is doing 100 times more damage to you that your single questionable post. You're better off just biting the fucking bullet and disclosing it than making it any worse for yourself than it already is. In other words, I can't trust someone that hides behind another handle knowing full well that every single potential client is calling for your head if you don't disclose. It's what kept me from spending my hard earned money.

Dude, I'm all for scrutinizing this dude but come on his handle is not going to mean Shit. I am more concerned with his ability to make a good product, roll out some gear get some guys on it then make a judgement. I want mid cycle bloods , a report on pip, and a consistant well dosed product. His sterilization procedure is on par, I would like an autoclave step somewhere in there. What worries me is with a rise in volume is one person going to be able to keep up with demand . I say we wait til some of his gear is logged to make any further judgements.