Alternatives to BB and BA

Quite often not heating enough doesn't convert all the acid out so pip happens. If your rash and such is minimal just keep going, I would take that over MIG840/EO/Gui/etc.

If you want to spring for chlorobutanol then go for it. It is used in my script Deletestral 200 in Canada with sesame oil. This is brand name pharma product so human grade and I don't see any info at all regarding a solvent however I need to review the insert in the box before I commit to saying no solvents. Wouldn't be surprised though as I have made test E with next to nothing for BB and it worked like a charm. A massive pharma company could be doing anything to manufacture, just changing pressure changes things as much as changing temperature.
Wait, what is wrong with MIG840?
 
Wait, what is wrong with MIG840?
The best thing since sliced bread for home brewers in my limited experience with it.

It's a propylene glycol diester of saturated plant fatty acids with chain lengths of C8 and C10.

Basically a form of MCT oil with much better solvent properties and it flows like water through a syringe one.

 
The best thing since sliced bread for home brewers in my limited experience with it.

It's a propylene glycol diester of saturated plant fatty acids with chain lengths of C8 and C10.

Basically a form of MCT oil with much better solvent properties and it flows like water through a syringe one.

To remember tho that some ppl get pip from it.

I have brewed masteron E at 400mg both in MCT and in mig840 and it was reported slightly pippy with the mig840 compared to the MCT. Go figure.
 
To remember tho that some ppl get pip from it.

I have brewed masteron E at 400mg both in MCT and in mig840 and it was reported slightly pippy with the mig840 compared to the MCT. Go figure.
So we can conclude that most people will tolerate 400mg/ml mastE made with 25bb/2ba/mct?

if not, do you think it would be worth it to make the mastE at 350-375mg/ml in to lessen the pip?

Ive also heard certain people having worse pip and some kind of allergic reaction to mig, MCT seems to be the best for most.

Though, there is an interesting idea of mixing castor oil and mct oil to get some of the castor oils antiinflammatory benefits which also could help with PIP.
 
So we can conclude that most people will tolerate 400mg/ml mastE made with 25bb/2ba/mct?

if not, do you think it would be worth it to make the mastE at 350-375mg/ml in to lessen the pip?

Ive also heard certain people having worse pip and some kind of allergic reaction to mig, MCT seems to be the best for most.

Though, there is an interesting idea of mixing castor oil and mct oil to get some of the castor oils antiinflammatory benefits which also could help with PIP.
400mg/ml mast E 25/2/MCT should be PIPless for everyone except maybe super sensitive ppl.

In that case reducing the concentration a bit could help or maybe do a 50/50 MCT/Castor but I have no experience in mixing castor MCT as I said in another thread because I have no need for it.

Yes MCT looks like the best for most and the difference with mig840 is there regarding the viscosity but it's not a deal breaker.

It's very good tho if you are kinda allergic to BB in high quantity because it allows you to half the BB needed. So you can brew easily mast E 400mg with 12/15% BB instead of 25% BB.

If you wanna keep the BB low you have to reduce concentration of course and could probably use 5% BB in many recipes.

I was in love with Mig840 and kinda still am but need to experiment more because as I said same recipe gave zero pip in MCT and gave a bit of PIP with mig840 to the same person.

Go figure why is that, the same person doesn't get any pip from EQ in mig840 but that's probably because of the EQ, well known for killing any PIP even when you mix it with substances that are well known for giving PIP.
 
400mg/ml mast E 25/2/MCT should be PIPless for everyone except maybe super sensitive ppl.

In that case reducing the concentration a bit could help or maybe do a 50/50 MCT/Castor but I have no experience in mixing castor MCT as I said in another thread because I have no need for it.

Yes MCT looks like the best for most and the difference with mig840 is there regarding the viscosity but it's not a deal breaker.

It's very good tho if you are kinda allergic to BB in high quantity because it allows you to half the BB needed. So you can brew easily mast E 400mg with 12/15% BB instead of 25% BB.

If you wanna keep the BB low you have to reduce concentration of course and could probably use 5% BB in many recipes.

I was in love with Mig840 and kinda still am but need to experiment more because as I said same recipe gave zero pip in MCT and gave a bit of PIP with mig840 to the same person.

Go figure why is that, the same person doesn't get any pip from EQ in mig840 but that's probably because of the EQ, well known for killing any PIP even when you mix it with substances that are well known for giving PIP.
Last week I brewed some test D @400mg/ml with mig840 and halved the BB used based on one of your previous posts. Turned out great! Thanks for sharing your brew experiences.
 
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