An apology from Manwhore

[gr8whitetrukker]

If someone opens their mouth and 4 times out of 5 nothing but dogshit comes out, that's a keeper? You have a real nose for really stand up bros... you and odie really took this place by storm and drove out the intellectuals- too bad about odie. And manwhore. Two guys who, by your estimation were really awesome guys.... except when they were total pieces of shit. Your back and forth on manwhore is sad... first you rode voodoo dick and defended the gear, then the bloods came back shit, then he convinced you bloods don't matter?
Harm reduction shmarm reduction, am I right? I loathe any venue where a person is judged not by their intellectual capacity or thirst for knowledge, but instead by how swole of a selfie they can take... people like manwhore, sworder, odie, the new you- pretty much turned this place into the back slapping equivalent of an inbred honky tonk bar. Congrats- you used to be interested in the why of things... now you seem bent on being the arbiter of the entertainment value of members and if anyone is being a killjoy to your virtual keg party in the woods.

Ive always said your ability to sling shit in public and manipulate ppl in to believing a lie is bar none the best this forum has ever seen. The fact most of the time its infused with humor makes you pallatable to the masses. I dont hate you. Weve talked privately about alot of pretty private things. And you are a completely different person when your not making shit up. But going on and on about a warped reality you try to create is the very worst of you. You can do better big guy

 

[brutus79]

Ive always said your ability to sling shit in public and manipulate ppl in to believing a lie is bar none the best this forum has ever seen. The fact most of the time its infused with humor makes you pallatable to the masses. I dont hate you. Weve talked privately about alot of pretty private things. And you are a completely different person when your not making shit up. But going on and on about a warped reality you try to create is the very worst of you. You can do better big guy

I guess the fact that I attacked you clouded the point I was trying to make. I have been here four years and never once saw manwhore contribute anything of any value here. Ever. I have seen him be friends with and defend one if the biggest scamming pieces of shit this board ever saw (stretch and bio). I have seen him push gear to newbs over and over again- I believe he alluded to the last 2 or 3 years he has been a fuckhead? He just might be referring to his countless remailing schemes and his failed lab... I believe you got burned? But he made it right with more underdosed gear? Cool fucking story bro. He has been a fucking parasite here for years- stuffing money in his pockets at everyone else's expense. I hated him long before he started making shit up about me- and when the equivalent of a wet brained homeless person is babbling incoherently and you pick up an insult directed at you it doesn't much matter, so understand my vendetta has nothing to do with the most recent bits of retardation dribbling from his mouth. It is the aggregate of watching him cloud threads with some of the most useless drivel I have ever encountered for years coupled with his opportunism that ran counter to absolutely everything we all fought for over the years. Fuck him. If he blew his head off I feel bad for the bullet.
Then you want to give cbs shit for calling a spade a spade because one in every five times he opened his face something came out that made you chuckle? Cbs has done more for this board than anyone I knew over the last 5 years not named Millard. He policed all the boards and caught numerous bullshit scams super early because if his vigilance. Fuck manwhore. You see any fucking sticky threads of manwhores here? In 14 fucking years has he ever started a thread admin felt was worth reading again? Have a little respect even if you do think you are king shit these days. I don't see any from you either.
This place has just gotten dumber and dumber. A fucking snake oil salesman like demondosage- an absolute pile of shit human being says creatine and insulin made him put on 15 lbs in a month and half a dozen fucking people run out and buy creatine. Fuck my fucking life that is a sad turn from where we were a few years ago... and in the same thread he insults a man with a PhD for countering that pathetic claim everyone just continues talking about the fucking creatine. Open your fucking eyes man. Maybe you like feeling like you know the most around here, or that you climbed to the top of whatever food chain you thought existed here, but the truth is that some of the long time guys I knew- stand up guys with knowledge and experience pretty much watch what goes on here with disgust. We are turning into eroids or ology. A bunch of bullshit bro scientists and when a dissenter calls bullshit the ignorant fucks tell them to be nicer- because that's what we are here for right? A good time? Not me. I'm here to learn and call bullshit when I see it- dance on the fucking graves of the people who make money under the table here... people who used to be easy to spot that blend in now with all the broskis just looking to score a source and look for the next best version of creatine.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

dance on the fucking graves of the people who make money under the table here

Then start in your own birds nest. Your boy BB69 HAS and HAS BEEN rolling the tables here for a while now. You know this...or is just too close for comfort you cant smell your own shit on your knees?

 

[brutus79]

Then start in your own birds nest. Your boy BB69 HAS and HAS BEEN rolling the tables here for a while now. You know this...or is just too close for comfort you cant smell your own shit on your knees?

If dry snitching is what we want to turn this to, cool. I have never known him to cull newcomers... have you? I have seen scores of people claiming manwhore picked them off via pm after their first post. Do I see a difference between someone banging a kindergartener and someone popping a high schooler? I do. Maybe there isn't one, but I don't see you saying where you get your gear from these days... Maybe because you smartened up, keep your mouth shut and an actual vet showed you where you might get something that's not dogshit once he was convinced you weren't a cop.
Manwhore openly trolled the introduction thread and pm'd newbies to remail bunk gear. Then he started his own dogshit lab and I got dozens of guys complaining to me about his shit.

I think you are being deliberately obtuse... at least I hope you are and it isn't just stupidity. I learned more from any single Ben post on this board than manwhores entire suck his own dick for 14 year career.
We again go back to what we think is contributing around here. I cannot think of two more worthless pieces of shit than odie or manwhore. I honestly cannot think of a single thing either did here that changed direction on this board or made anything better in any way. If I am missing something beyond the chuckles and backslaps you apparently cannot live without please clue me in- and if you think manwhore and Ben bear any kind of resemblance as people or as members either your classifications of people are just human and fish, or you are an idiot.

And I posted all that I posted... and that's what you got. One line.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

If dry snitching is what we want to turn this to, cool. I have never known him to cull newcomers... have you? I have seen scores of people claiming manwhore picked them off via pm after their first post. Do I see a difference between someone banging a kindergartener and someone popping a high schooler? I do. Maybe there isn't one, but I don't see you saying where you get your gear from these days... Maybe because you smartened up, keep your mouth shut and an actual vet showed you where you might get something that's not dogshit once he was convinced you weren't a cop.
Manwhore openly trolled the introduction thread and pm'd newbies to remail bunk gear. Then he started his own dogshit lab and I got dozens of guys complaining to me about his shit.

I think you are being deliberately obtuse... at least I hope you are and it isn't just stupidity. I learned more from any single Ben post on this board than manwhores entire suck his own dick for 14 year career.
We again go back to what we think is contributing around here. I cannot think of two more worthless pieces of shit than odie or manwhore. I honestly cannot think of a single thing either did here that changed direction on this board or made anything better in any way. If I am missing something beyond the chuckles and backslaps you apparently cannot live without please clue me in- and if you think manwhore and Ben bear any kind of resemblance as people or as members either your classifications of people are just human and fish, or you are an idiot.

And I posted all that I posted... and that's what you got. One line.

Your entire previous post you painted yourself as a forum savior. Here let me help you
"I'm here to learn and call bullshit when I see it- dance on the fucking graves of the people who make money under the table here..."

So knowing this all along i am calling you a hypocrite. Plain and simple. There is no arguing it. Being choosey now who you want to call out and who you dont?

 

[brutus79]

Your entire previous post you painted yourself as a forum savior. Here let me help you
"I'm here to learn and call bullshit when I see it- dance on the fucking graves of the people who make money under the table here..."

So knowing this all along i am calling you a hypocrite. Plain and simple. There is no arguing it. Being choosey now who you want to call out and who you dont?

Forum savior? Lmao
More like forum troll lately.
I just laid out what I thought. I don't see how I was being choosy in any way- there is a clear divide to me. I also state what I think of you defending someone like manwhore.
His lab and gear aside if you want to cancel that out with the parallel you draw in order to obfuscate the fact you have no answers or arguments to the numerous issues I see with the board - he is a worthless human being. He is a skinny little sack of shit who knows absolutely nothing. He is borderline illiterate and his posts read like an issue of rapist weekly "blind girl rape" edition. The only positive thing I see that he could do for this world is take his own life and spare us all- and those unfortunate enough to be subjected to him in real life... is this some sort of semper fi pog bond you guys share? I don't get it otherwise.
I will also tell him to his face, and have every opportunity I get. No shame in my game.... I don't see you calling out Ben much? I think you might be scared someone like him would knock you off this pretend throne you have built for yourself here... you just sort of float around from the food thread to various newbie posts and regurgitate stuff like you are a Mr. O on your off days. You have a couple dozen mindless works that like all your posts and you probably fancy yourself an inspiration to the masses- I'm glad you are happy. The fact remains this place is a shell of what it was a few years ago... and you are just so excited to be trying insulin so you can fill your truck seat a little tighter you can't see the forest from the trees.

I am wasting my breath- I make ten points and you go two posts back to point out a line you disagree with in order to avoid the fact that you have built a house of cards here you are very proud of. If you are going to call out a member her for flipping tables, tag him. I'm sure he will explain what he thinks in a manner in which you might understand, and he will surely have thoughts on manwhore as well. I am sure he would also be surprised to know they are categorized as the same type of individual as far as you are concerned... Lord knows I have surprise of my own.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Forum savior? Lmao
More like forum troll lately.
I just laid out what I thought. I don't see how I was being choosy in any way- there is a clear divide to me. I also state what I think of you defending someone like manwhore.
His lab and gear aside if you want to cancel that out with the parallel you draw in order to obfuscate the fact you have no answers or arguments to the numerous issues I see with the board - he is a worthless human being. He is a skinny little sack of shit who knows absolutely nothing. He is borderline illiterate and his posts read like an issue of rapist weekly "blind girl rape" edition. The only positive thing I see that he could do for this world is take his own life and spare us all- and those unfortunate enough to be subjected to him in real life... is this some sort of semper fi pog bond you guys share? I don't get it otherwise.
I will also tell him to his face, and have every opportunity I get. No shame in my game.... I don't see you calling out Ben much? I think you might be scared someone like him would knock you off this pretend throne you have built for yourself here... you just sort of float around from the food thread to various newbie posts and regurgitate stuff like you are a Mr. O on your off days. You have a couple dozen mindless works that like all your posts and you probably fancy yourself an inspiration to the masses- I'm glad you are happy. The fact remains this place is a shell of what it was a few years ago... and you are just so excited to be trying insulin so you can fill your truck seat a little tighter you can't see the forest from the trees.

I am wasting my breath- I make ten points and you go two posts back to point out a line you disagree with in order to avoid the fact that you have built a house of cards here you are very proud of. If you are going to call out a member her for flipping tables, tag him. I'm sure he will explain what he thinks in a manner in which you might understand, and he will surely have thoughts on manwhore as well. I am sure he would also be surprised to know they are categorized as the same type of individual as far as you are concerned... Lord knows I have surprise of my own.

This very topic has been brought up countless times by Millard.
Its not private sources that are the problem but the double standard given to some

I could care less if he sold anything here i have bought lots of different things from lots of different ppl. Its the nature of business. But one very obvious double standard is @biggerben69 has been able to successfully sell and revert back to member status without even so much of a hiccup. There is NOT ONE former member that has crossed those lines between source and consumer that has been given that luxury. NOT ONE. Thing is everyone knows it. You are his self declared best friend. So i see you parading in here with rhetoric like this

"I'm here to learn and call bullshit when I see it- dance on the fucking graves of the people who make money under the table here..."

Im going to call a spade a spade, in your own words.

And im sincerely asking...

Why the double standard given to 1 person but not all?
That is a fair question

 

[brutus79]

This very topic has been brought up countless times by Millard.
Its not private sources that are the problem but the double standard given to some

I could care less if he sold anything here i have bought lots of different things from lots of different ppl. Its the nature of business. But one very obvious double standard is @biggerben69 has been able to successfully sell and revert back to member status without even so much of a hiccup. There is NOT ONE former member that has crossed those lines between source and consumer that has been given that luxury. NOT ONE. Thing is everyone knows it. You are his self declared best friend. So i see you parading in here with rhetoric like this

"I'm here to learn and call bullshit when I see it- dance on the fucking graves of the people who make money under the table here..."

Im going to call a spade a spade, in your own words.

And im sincerely asking...

Why the double standard given to 1 person but not all?
That is a fair question

There is a difference between soliciting and being solicited. I know dozens of people who at least used to sell shit here... never called one out. Why? Because they were not soliciting people- what they did was between friends, between people who knew each other.
To me when a newbie introduces himself in the introduction thread and a self proclaimed veteran immediately pms him to try and hustle gear that is the equivalent of a priest molesting a child.
Want to know who I didn't call out? Your douchebag buddies odie and his little tren operation he had going. I knew he wasn't soliciting newbs and he was just hustling to all his inbred hick buddies. (No offense) No harm, no foul.
You are playing semantics. I am pointing out over and over again where I have no double standard because I see things as apples and oranges. You are pretending to not know the difference... and you continue to take one line and repeat it over. And over. And over. While ignoring everything else I have said. I am forced to conclude that you aren't all that bright. You may really bask in this self importance you have with no vision, no thought of what direction things should go in. It is a self policed steroid harm reduction board people have full authority to lead in ant direction they want that you seem intent on reducing to a 5th grade show and tell of meal pictures and the next compound you are gonna wiggle in your body to get an additional compliment at the truck stop.

Have some vision.

Think about how much more this could be- instead of being content with the fluff that it is. people always had ideas- a lot didn't work out, but at least they thought about more than nothing.

I answered your question five fucking times. I pointed to specific examples of people I gave a pass too that fit this mold. Keep pretending you don't get it. Copy and respaste one line again instead of talking about how meso will be exactly the same way in ten years if you had your way. It's fucking sad.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

There is a difference between soliciting and being solicited. I know dozens of people who at least used to sell shit here... never called one out. Why? Because they were not soliciting people- what they did was between friends, between people who knew each other.
To me when a newbie introduces himself in the introduction thread and a self proclaimed veteran immediately pms him to try and hustle gear that is the equivalent of a priest molesting a child.
Want to know who I didn't call out? Your douchebag buddies odie and his little tren operation he had going. I knew he wasn't soliciting newbs and he was just hustling to all his inbred hick buddies. (No offense) No harm, no foul.
You are playing semantics. I am pointing out over and over again where I have no double standard because I see things as apples and oranges. You are pretending to not know the difference... and you continue to take one line and repeat it over. And over. And over. While ignoring everything else I have said. I am forced to conclude that you aren't all that bright. You may really bask in this self importance you have with no vision, no thought of what direction things should go in. It is a self policed steroid harm reduction board people have full authority to lead in ant direction they want that you seem intent on reducing to a 5th grade show and tell of meal pictures and the next compound you are gonna wiggle in your body to get an additional compliment at the truck stop.

Have some vision.

Think about how much more this could be- instead of being content with the fluff that it is. people always had ideas- a lot didn't work out, but at least they thought about more than nothing.

I answered your question five fucking times. I pointed to specific examples of people I gave a pass too that fit this mold. Keep pretending you don't get it. Copy and respaste one line again instead of talking about how meso will be exactly the same way in ten years if you had your way. It's fucking sad.

manwhore seems to be a big point of contention for you and rightly so. Ive said this to manwhore in public and in private. I ordered thru MW once and i feel i have a safe working knowledge of his general douchbaggery. I think he lied his little pecker off about his mysterious brother out on the west coast. You know the one that always would never reship gear? Then MW himself was always the good guy. Give in to customer needs etc. I believe their one in the same person. He just created both to give creativity to his own persona of manwhore here at MESO and paint him as the good guy. That was pretty much the last straw. Do i or you have facts to back that up? No, but its sound and a reasonable place to draw conclusions from. Do i dig he solicited noobs? Sure as hell fuckin dont brother. But am i stupid or naive enough to believe Ultimate didnt solicit ppl for his business here at MESO? Sure as hell dont brother. I think Manwhore had terrible filtering practices on his gear. Look idk much about brewing but everyone who does told me his filtering process fuckin sucks. So i give in to the more experienced in that area. All in all i think MW/voodoo is a pretty terrible half wagon source. But he is a terrible half wagon src that ALWAYS knew his role. We never let him forget it. And we never should.

ONCE YOU BECOME A SOURCE YOU ARE NO LONGER A MEMBER

That is and has always been the motto here for EVERY other member turned rep or source. Once you seek to make money off us...things change permanently. And that is where i stand

So is it that because a member/rep is one of the bros he gets a free pass to fly under the radar?

BTW ODIE was a piece of shit too. Unfortunately you cant always pick what company you hold decides to do. And it was wrong that we didnt make that separation between ODIE and US back then(Source/member). Ive always struggled with how this situation should be handled. But now after 3 yrs or so later its pretty fuckin obvious. The hypocrisy is ridiculous and i could of better handled these past situations as a junior member. Which is why im handling them now.

I believe this long standing double standard absolutely hurts the integrity of what is done here. And i dont necessarily believe that private sourcing is bad. But having that distinction is best and fair.

Do you not believe that to be true?

 

[brutus79]

manwhore seems to be a big point of contention for you and rightly so. Ive said this to manwhore in public and in private. I ordered thru MW once and i feel i have a safe working knowledge of his general douchbaggery. I think he lied his little pecker off about his mysterious brother out on the west coast. You know the one that always would never reship gear? Then MW himself was always the good guy. Give in to customer needs etc. I believe their one in the same person. He just created both to give creativity to his own persona of manwhore here at MESO and paint him as the good guy. That was pretty much the last straw. Do i or you have facts to back that up? No, but its sound and a reasonable place to draw conclusions from. Do i dig he solicited noobs? Sure as hell fuckin dont brother. But am i stupid or naive enough to believe Ultimate didnt solicit ppl for his business here at MESO? Sure as hell dont brother. I think Manwhore had terrible filtering practices on his gear. Look idk much about brewing but everyone who does told me his filtering process fuckin sucks. So i give in to the more experienced in that area. All in all i think MW/voodoo is a pretty terrible half wagon source. But he is a terrible half wagon src that ALWAYS knew his role. We never let him forget it. And we never should.

ONCE YOU BECOME A SOURCE YOU ARE NO LONGER A MEMBER

That is and has always been the motto here for EVERY other member turned rep or source. Once you seek to make money off us...things change permanently. And that is where i stand

So is it that because a member/rep is one of the bros he gets a free pass to fly under the radar?

BTW ODIE was a piece of shit too. Unfortunately you cant always pick what company you hold decides to do. And it was wrong that we didnt make that separation between ODIE and US back then(Source/member). Ive always struggled with how this situation should be handled. But now after 3 yrs or so later its pretty fuckin obvious. The hypocrisy is ridiculous and i could of better handled these past situations as a junior member. Which is why im handling them now.

I believe this long standing double standard absolutely hurts the integrity of what is done here. And i dont necessarily believe that private sourcing is bad. But having that distinction is best and fair.

Do you not believe that to be true?

So we circle around again.

If private sourcing is not bad, and if it is in fact an unavoidable necessity in getting gear safely (as opposed to using one of these public "born to lose" cop magnet sources) how do you propose "making this division"?

Making public in any way the activities of a person engaged in illegal activities privately to bring goods or services to a person is snitching. Period. To out members who have sourced, are sourcing, or start sourcing is unacceptable. It puts their families and customers at risk for no reason other than to fullfil our need to maintain integrity.

Most of these things are unspoken rules in the streets I grew up in, the streets I ran around in. There are exceptions.

If some guy is selling crack you keep your mouth shut or risk a bullet. If you find out that man is selling crack to young kids you drop a dime or kill him. If that man turns out to be a rapist or child molester, same deal. If he is selling soap to people which causes people to bring their drug money elsewhere because he burned them and now you can't off your weed- same deal. Kill him or dime out.

Short of these examples you don't risk a man's freedom or you risk your own life. In the paragraph above I think I described a lot of manwhore traits. I also know I didn't describe anyone else I might keep my mouth shut about. Right or wrong? No idea. It's the only way I know.

 

[Burrr]

Making public in any way the activities of a person engaged in illegal activities privately to bring goods or services to a person is snitching. Period

That's certainly the way I saw it when the guy who asked me about my source went and posted the e-mail of a private lab.

 

[brutus79]

What you were doing fell into selling crack to kids category... soliciting newbs to "help" them out of the goodness of your heart... beyond the potential moral/integrity issue I hope you learned an important lesson when engaging in illegal activities... don't fuck with people you don't know you can trust. You have no reason to be dropping sources in pm to someone you don't know beyond the financial gain- so you pay the price. You could be investigated if he is a cop, he could dime the source, etc... that was a situation where your head was firmly seated in your ass if you had no money you were making in the transaction and it was still up there even if you were making money. All risk, no reward. Not the time, not the place.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

So we circle around again.

If private sourcing is not bad, and if it is in fact an unavoidable necessity in getting gear safely (as opposed to using one of these public "born to lose" cop magnet sources) how do you propose "making this division"?

Making public in any way the activities of a person engaged in illegal activities privately to bring goods or services to a person is snitching. Period. To out members who have sourced, are sourcing, or start sourcing is unacceptable. It puts their families and customers at risk for no reason other than to fullfil our need to maintain integrity.

Most of these things are unspoken rules in the streets I grew up in, the streets I ran around in. There are exceptions.

If some guy is selling crack you keep your mouth shut or risk a bullet. If you find out that man is selling crack to young kids you drop a dime or kill him. If that man turns out to be a rapist or child molester, same deal. If he is selling soap to people which causes people to bring their drug money elsewhere because he burned them and now you can't off your weed- same deal. Kill him or dime out.

Short of these examples you don't risk a man's freedom or you risk your own life. In the paragraph above I think I described a lot of manwhore traits. I also know I didn't describe anyone else I might keep my mouth shut about. Right or wrong? No idea. It's the only way I know.

Well, im bringing it up to discuss. That is now the turning point.
Id like to discuss that first. We now have former members that have the designation "rep" instead of member. Millard imposed it and i think that is a damn good first step to dividing consumer from source. Its not perfect but i do like it and its also transparant.

Now to your 2nd point making public illegal activities that were wished to be kept private is null and void. If you have an entire thread about your activities, strategically drop sales pitches randomly then it is not private. That is a PUBLIC source wishing to be treated as a PRIVATE source. Wishing for the best of both worlds. Cannot have it both ways

 

[Burrr]

What you were doing fell into selling crack to kids category... soliciting newbs to "help" them out of the goodness of your heart...

I was no vet, and @BeastModeSparty was no noob. We were just a couple of average members. He asked were I got my $25 test e and I told him.
I suppose I didn't know him well enough. Just like our friend didn't know @akassassin good enough.

Sharing A steroid source to a steroid user on a steroid forum is not even close to selling crack.

Looking back I was a little excited about having found good gear cheap, as the perception on meso at the time was that it was like finding a unicorn..

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I was no vet, and @BeastModeSparty was no noob. We were just a couple of average members. He asked were I got my $25 test e and I told him.
I suppose I didn't know him well enough. Just like our friend didn't know @akassassin good enough.

Sharing A steroid source to a steroid user on a steroid forum is not even close to selling crack.

Looking back I was a little excited about having found good gear cheap, as the perception on meso at the time was that it was like finding a unicorn..

I always figured. There was alot of demonizing behind that whole ordeal. But like i said. I always figured

 

[brutus79]

I was no vet, and @BeastModeSparty was no noob. We were just a couple of average members. He asked were I got my $25 test e and I told him.
I suppose I didn't know him well enough. Just like our friend didn't know @akassassin good enough.

Sharing A steroid source to a steroid user on a steroid forum is not even close to selling crack.

Looking back I was a little excited about having found good gear cheap, as the perception on meso at the time was that it was like finding a unicorn..

It wasn't just him... I wasn't even aware of him. I believe you had good intention- paving the road to hell one brick at a time.

 

[Burrr]

The other guy that posted about me was @FuriousWO

He also asked me about sources by pm, to which I replied.

I can pull up the pm, but it's pointless now.

I shared my source witb a few other guys that asked me. They had enough class to keep it private

 

[brutus79]

Well, im bringing it up to discuss. That is now the turning point.
Id like to discuss that first. We now have former members that have the designation "rep" instead of member. Millard imposed it and i think that is a damn good first step to dividing consumer from source. Its not perfect but i do like it and its also transparant.

Now to your 2nd point making public illegal activities that were wished to be kept private is null and void. If you have an entire thread about your activities, strategically drop sales pitches randomly then it is not private. That is a PUBLIC source wishing to be treated as a PRIVATE source. Wishing for the best of both worlds. Cannot have it both ways

If a member is open about their activities whether it be in a thread where they peddles wares or as a rep for a source they absolutely should have a designation other than member... and even pseudo open where they drop sideways comments, pitches or direct people away from other sources by trolling other source threads and/or joining discussions with the intent to procure business for themselves- no doubt.

 

[heady muscle]

Have you come off them? I was prescribed them for a few months, and helped get my "shit together" then we weened off... I haven't needed them since. I used them as a temporary crutch, but I was terrified to be a lifer on SSRI's.... Some people NEED them for life, which, I understand. I really just needed a bump for a few months.

Being in that "industry" for the first ten years of my "professional" life, those prescription psych drugs are just as dangerous, if not more so in some circumstances than what they are trying to help.

This is one example of many: I counseled a patient who was diagnosed a rapiding bi polar with schizophrenia a long while back. This guy was (hopefully still is) about 6'3" and 150lbs. He kicked the shit out of 6 LA cops. He was on abilify, prozac, lithium and a hand full of other psycho active drugs. They tried to put him away for this act until they discovered it was drug induced behavior (hey, look at all the shootings here in the states and all shooters have been on these SSRI drugs).

Finely he decided to get off these drugs (on his own accord) and seek other help. Me being one of them. He changed his diet, started seeing an acupuncturist and started working out. From the last I heard, he was doing well and still off any psych drugs.

I posted this before, when commercials are on Television for drugs like abilify and paxil, our society has taken a turn for the worse. These drugs are very powerful and should only be used in a small percentage of cases. But they are given out like candy by pharma psych reps (or psychiatrists) for profit. Same with morphine drugs. Be careful with this shit. It is way more powerful than AAS. But AAS are powerful on mind and body in their own right.

 

[Oregongearhead]

@brutus79 vs. @gr8whitetrukker ?
Two goes in one comes out ? In the Meso octagon ?
lol . Come on guys make friends....