I can understand that. I usually stay in the training and powerlifting threads. Been looking around at different sources lately but once you get away from meso theirs never anything bad on any of these labs...everybodys g2g rot-yo-dickoff labs yeah man that shits fire, crackhead down the street pretty sure he's overdosed but g2g.lol No other forum actually brings true accountability to these sources.For me it seems that most of the newer younger guys don't want to take advice. They ask questions and if they don't hear what they want to hear they argue their position until they get the answer they want. Don't ask if you don't really want an honest opinion. They really just want to be told they're right. I stay out of the underground also because I'm just tired of that particular type of drama. I know we're supposed to be keeping each other safe but I just needed a break from it.