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[Junni]

Found this study, and it's worth the read for the total test of 600 mg weekly
Testosterone-induced increase in muscle size in healthy young men is associated with muscle fiber hypertrophy. - PubMed - NCBI

It's around 2400

 

[Geterdun]

I don't involve in how any member took his shots. what really matter to people when they read the results is the numbers under the testosterone total.

I don't think people really notice how and when the shots being taken.

I never paid any attention to the blood test protocols, I never did a blood test while on.

Sir, I've followed your thread for some time now. I'm just trying to give you some good advice. At MESO, we rely heavily on blood work for gear. We have spegic protocols set here to follow so we all know the test results will be done the very same way, every time. I can't say everyone follows it, but this is why we ask so many questions related to reviews. If the MESO blood test protocol is followed, we can compare everyone's blood results the same. We go as far as to have everyone write MESO RX and the date, hand written on the test results to post them to make sure we are seeing their results. It's not gull proof, but it does the job. @Roger rabbit is a good guy and seems to be very knowledgeable on this topic.

@Roger rabbit not sure I follow your example with the one or two pins per week, but more detail might help. You know as we have talked before, everyone is different, so a once a week pin might be better than a twice a week for some. Blood work over time will only tell us this as you know. I always look forward to your posts.

Your BP seems to be getting high my friend. If your on cycle, check it please. I've never seen you answer trolls the way you are right now. Keep up the great work. I'm hoping your BP is good as I like this side of you. You can back it up...

 

[Kakarot]

So does anyone with sqs test cyp left want to send in an unopened vial for testing? He's just offered to pay for all the cost of it. This would be a great benefit to the community. Any takers?

 

[Geterdun]

So does anyone with sqs test cyp left want to send in an unopened vial for testing? He's just offered to pay for all the cost of it. This would be a great benefit to the community. Any takers?

Do we have any place to test anymore? I thought SIMEC wasn't accepting anymore from USA?

 

[Kakarot]

Do we have any place to test anymore? I thought SIMEC wasn't accepting anymore from USA?

Chemtox seems to be testing. I've read that their turnover rate is way better than those crazy slow swiss rolls.

 

[Geterdun]

Chemtox seems to be testing. I've read that their turnover rate is way better than those crazy slow swiss rolls.

Well, we need someone to step up for the community then. If we can establish a good working relationship with them, we don't know the positive results that may happen...

 

[puckhog]

What is the cost to test a vial?

 

[Kakarot]

Well, we need someone to step up for the community then. If we can establish a good working relationship with them, we don't know the positive results that may happen...

this came from a justfish thread but it did have some good info.

 

[Ctal36]

I will cover any expenses cause from any Chemtox lab test. the product value, the shipping. if need I will transfer the money directly to Chemtox account for the testing.

And like I said. if the results will be underdosed, I'll be the first here in public to admit SQS are crap and will move to another lab.

I will send a sample. Sorry I was sleeping but just saw all of these. Ray no one has blamed you and I actually hope your right. Only way we will know for sure is to send a sample so I will do that.

 

[Ctal36]

I've never done it before so I just need someone to walk me through the process.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Sir, I've followed your thread for some time now. I'm just trying to give you some good advice. At MESO, we rely heavily on blood work for gear. We have spegic protocols set here to follow so we all know the test results will be done the very same way, every time. I can't say everyone follows it, but this is why we ask so many questions related to reviews. If the MESO blood test protocol is followed, we can compare everyone's blood results the same. We go as far as to have everyone write MESO RX and the date, hand written on the test results to post them to make sure we are seeing their results. It's not gull proof, but it does the job. @Roger rabbit is a good guy and seems to be very knowledgeable on this topic.

@Roger rabbit not sure I follow your example with the one or two pins per week, but more detail might help. You know as we have talked before, everyone is different, so a once a week pin might be better than a twice a week for some. Blood work over time will only tell us this as you know. I always look forward to your posts.

Your BP seems to be getting high my friend. If your on cycle, check it please. I've never seen you answer trolls the way you are right now. Keep up the great work. I'm hoping your BP is good as I like this side of you. You can back it up...

The best example you can find on blood work would be @Deepwaters1987 that he did on his pharma gear. He took blood 3 times in one week which was every 48hours at one shot per week at 750mg.


The spike in total T at 48 hours in the first blood that was taken was huge, I don't remember the exact number but believe it was over 6k his second blood taken drop dramatically 48 hours after last blood and so on.

If I am doing the same dosage of 750mg total for the week but divide that into two shots per week, meaning I am taking two shots at 375 mg during the week then my initial spike in total t cannot be over 6k like it would be on the single shot at 750mg

The two shot method will, like we spoke about create the even level/stable bloods. and for hypothetical talk we will say that since the shot is reduced by half, but used twice per week for the same total mg of testosterone injected, we would reduce the total t in blood to half, which would be 3k.

That's why I say ray is comparing apples to oranges, and I believe he knows this and was an attempt to try to "defend" bloods. He went and found a good high number to discredit the lower number. But again, 700mg injection with blood drawn 48 hours later will yield you different results than 300mg injected 48 hours later. This is how ray is comparing the bloods, apples and oranges.... day and night here.


I still need coffee so excuse run on sentences and grammar [emoji854]

 

[Roger rabbit]

Found this study, and it's worth the read for the total test of 600 mg weekly
Testosterone-induced increase in muscle size in healthy young men is associated with muscle fiber hypertrophy. - PubMed - NCBI

It's around 2400

Your attempt at side stepping the issue is poor at best. This is exactly how a rep would respond.

No one is saying at 2400 they won't grow.... EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. The question at hand is, how well the product is dosed.

 

[Geterdun]

The best example you can find on blood work would be @Deepwaters1987 that he did on his pharma gear. He took blood 3 times in one week which was every 48hours at one shot per week at 750mg.


The spike in total T at 48 hours in the first blood that was taken was huge, I don't remember the exact number but believe it was over 6k his second blood taken drop dramatically 48 hours after last blood and so on.

If I am doing the same dosage of 750mg total for the week but divide that into two shots per week, meaning I am taking two shots at 375 mg during the week then my initial spike in total t cannot be over 6k like it would be on the single shot at 750mg

The two shot method will, like we spoke about create the even level/stable bloods. and for hypothetical talk we will say that since the shot is reduced by half, but used twice per week for the same total mg of testosterone injected, we would reduce the total t in blood to half, which would be 3k.

That's why I say ray is comparing apples to oranges, and I believe he knows this and was an attempt to try to "defend" bloods. He went and found a good high number to discredit the lower number. But again, 700mg injection with blood drawn 48 hours later will yield you different results than 300mg injected 48 hours later. This is how ray is comparing the bloods, apples and oranges.... day and night here.


I still need coffee so excuse run on sentences and grammar [emoji854]

Do you think certain members might test different even with your example? So, let's keep @Deepwaters1987 as the core, but use you and I as the variance. I think everyone metabolizes gear at different rates, but I also feel that seeing it this way, there is no other true number than an individual person. For example, I've tested on just 250 per week Watson TRT. Then someone else does the same. Completely different numbers on a one a week pin, or 2 a week pin. Then on cycle, same thing. One pin, or two will give completely different numbers depending on the person. This is why we need everyone to follow MESO Protocol for bloods. It's the closest we can get, eliminating how each person metabolizes test. Am I making sense my friend?

To say testing on one pin per week and not having blood results for that same person over history really isn't a true number. We need a once a week pin and a twice a week pin from the same person to get the average. JMO Always great talking opinions with you. I've learned a lot from you..

 

[Roger rabbit]

Do you think certain members might test different even with your example? So, let's keep @Deepwaters1987 as the core, but use you and I as the variance. I think everyone metabolizes gear at different rates, but I also feel that seeing it this way, there is no other true number than an individual person. For example, I've tested on just 250 per week Watson TRT. Then someone else does the same. Completely different numbers on a one a week pin, or 2 a week pin. Then on cycle, same thing. One pin, or two will give completely different numbers depending on the person. This is why we need everyone to follow MESO Protocol for bloods. It's the closest we can get, eliminating how each person metabolizes test. Am I making sense my friend?

To say testing on one pin per week and not having blood results for that same person over history really isn't a true number. We need a once a week pin and a twice a week pin from the same person to get the average. JMO Always great talking opinions with you. I've learned a lot from you..

Completely agree people metabolize differently that is why I was using deepwaters as the control with pharma. But, no matter how you metabolize the product, 700mg one time per week will always be a higher number 48 hours post injection on bloods than 300mg 48 hours post injection.

Agree on everything 100% for sure.

And the reason why I agree is because on my prescription trt I'm prescribed 300mg per week and that will yield me around 800-900 roughly.

If I were to take sqs at the 600mg injection once per week my numbers would report back at roughly 1600-1800 or close to it. But.... everyone else might say this is poor, but I would know this is equal to my trt Watson.

I just hope that anaboliclab tests sqs or something gets sent off to chemtox for the community.

Good talking to you my man[emoji106][emoji51][emoji106]

 

[Geterdun]

Completely agree people metabolize differently that is why I was using deepwaters as the control with pharma. But, no matter how you metabolize the product, 700mg one time per week will always be a higher number 48 hours post injection on bloods than 300mg 48 hours post injection.

Agree on everything 100% for sure.

And the reason why I agree is because on my prescription trt I'm prescribed 300mg per week and that will yield me around 800-900 roughly.

If I were to take sqs at the 600mg injection once per week my numbers would report back at roughly 1600-1800 or close to it. But.... everyone else might say this is poor, but I would know this is equal to my trt Watson.

I just hope that anaboliclab tests sqs or something gets sent off to chemtox for the community.

Good talking to you my man[emoji106][emoji51][emoji106]

Agreed!

 

[Ctal36]

@Roger rabbit good stuff man, that's why I've been saying it seems bad but until we send something for testing there is no way to know. Appreciate you sharing some knowledge lol.

 

[Ctal36]

On another note it appears I won that competition in the pharmacom thread.. I can't decide if I wanna try them tho or not. I've heard mixed reviews from people I know. I've seen good bloods tho so I don't know.. I may give them a shot or just have them donate my winnings to anaboliclab.. i know it's off topic I'm just very indecisive and can't make up my mind. Lol

 

[OldFatAndSlow]

I just hope im proven wrong in all this. If so ill be the first one to apologize and retract.

 

[Ctal36]

I do too.. I started his cyp and Tren, and prop to jumpstart and there's no denying the prop has kicked in.. and with no pip so I'd be thrilled if it was dosed right..the Tren on the other hand I'm not so sure about.. but it's still early.. I'd b very happy to find out it's dosed right. Never any pip.. TA is great and Ray is easy to deal with. So it would b great.. Although I'm not so sure I wanna spend any more money that will benefit Juri he's a dick

 

[Geterdun]

Nobody should look at testing as right or wrong. Good, bad, or indifferent, honest bloodwork helps meso. So, with this being said, dont for get o black out all personal info and hand write MESO RX and the dat on the papers before posting please...