ancillary advice

[nicholasw]

could anyone advise me what ancillaries would be required for a course of gh and equipoise (eq up to 400mg per wk for 2-3 months)? is it necessary to add finasteride baring in mind the lower affinity of boldenone to reduce to dihydroboldenone, also what effect does dhb have compared to dht? I have stacked test and equipoise before and found i retained water about my face and shoulders, which drug was that most likely to be due to?

Any advice and feedback would b appreciated.

 

[einstein1905]

If you survived a test/EQ cycle with no adverse effects on the hairline, then EQ alone shouldn't be a problem, as DHT would be worse. The first thing I'd say....is to add test to this cycle as well. EQ you'll want to run for a minimum of 10-12 weeks. If you hadn't taken any anti estrogens with your previous cycle, then the bloat was most likely caused by test conversion to estrogen, as boldenone won't be much of an issue with respect to armatization.
Have you run GH before?
test @500mg/wk with EQ at 500mg/wk (test Enanthate). Run the test 1 week past the EQ to account for their respective active lives....then run pct 2 weeks past the last test E shot.
For ancillaries:
0.25mg/day of Arimidex (anastrazole) all the way through pct
10mg/day of nolvadex (tamoxifen) and at 20mg/day during pct
pct=
clomid 300mg day 1, 150mgs days 2-11, 100mgs days 12-21

You can also use HCG at roughly 1000IUs week 7 or 8 and then again 1 week after your last test shot to aid in a more efficient recovery

could anyone advise me what ancillaries would be required for a course of gh and equipoise (eq up to 400mg per wk for 2-3 months)? is it necessary to add finasteride baring in mind the lower affinity of boldenone to reduce to dihydroboldenone, also what effect does dhb have compared to dht? I have stacked test and equipoise before and found i retained water about my face and shoulders, which drug was that most likely to be due to?

Any advice and feedback would b appreciated.

 

[nicholasw]

If you survived a test/EQ cycle with no adverse effects on the hairline, then EQ alone shouldn't be a problem, as DHT would be worse. The first thing I'd say....is to add test to this cycle as well. EQ you'll want to run for a minimum of 10-12 weeks. If you hadn't taken any anti estrogens with your previous cycle, then the bloat was most likely caused by test conversion to estrogen, as boldenone won't be much of an issue with respect to armatization.
Have you run GH before?
test @500mg/wk with EQ at 500mg/wk (test Enanthate). Run the test 1 week past the EQ to account for their respective active lives....then run pct 2 weeks past the last test E shot.
For ancillaries:
0.25mg/day of Arimidex (anastrazole) all the way through pct
10mg/day of nolvadex (tamoxifen) and at 20mg/day during pct
pct=
clomid 300mg day 1, 150mgs days 2-11, 100mgs days 12-21

You can also use HCG at roughly 1000IUs week 7 or 8 and then again 1 week after your last test shot to aid in a more efficient recovery

I've had a slight rededing hairline after my last course but i only ran test and winnys then so i assume eq doesn't affect me there. I ran proprionate before, is the only difference between prop and enth the strength and frequency of injection or is there any variation in side effects? Haven't run gh before, is this a suitable course to add it to?
If i do opt for finasteride, should i take it throughout the whole course and how long after, indefinately? Have heard that taking it with eq increases hair loss, have yet to find out whether this is bull or not.
Do i not need to run any anti-es throughout the course to avoid estrogen conversion or will this significantly reduce the positive outcomes of the juice ?

Thanks for the advice pal, much appreciated.

 

[einstein1905]

Winny, being a DHT derivative, in addition to test, which will reduce to DHT is going to always be tough on the hairline of someone susceptible to MPB. If you opt for finasteride (and I don't), most will run it indefinitely, with a higher dose during cycle. Finasteride plus EQ won't compound things. Reducing DHT levels can prevent muscle hardness that DHT (and DHT-like compounds like winny or proviron) can give. It'll also lower your androgen:estrogen ratio ((test + DHT)estrogen), which can make one more susceptible to gyno.
Mg per MG, prop contains more test due to ester weight. This is really negligible in the doses we use. test E may allow for more water retention, but the ancillary doses I gave earlier will negate that. Ldex will reduce the conversion of test to estrogen, while nolva, being a SERM, will prevent estrogenic effects in the mammary, but be estrogenic in the bone and liver, thus helping your lipid profile and providing the estrogenic effects that are often mistakenly claimed to be missing while using anti e's.
I would first run GH for 1 month to acclimate yourself....you'll notice some water retention and probably numbness in the hands and feet...possibly other joint pains.

I've had a slight rededing hairline after my last course but i only ran test and winnys then so i assume eq doesn't affect me there. I ran proprionate before, is the only difference between prop and enth the strength and frequency of injection or is there any variation in side effects? Haven't run gh before, is this a suitable course to add it to?
If i do opt for finasteride, should i take it throughout the whole course and how long after, indefinately? Have heard that taking it with eq increases hair loss, have yet to find out whether this is bull or not.
Do i not need to run any anti-es throughout the course to avoid estrogen conversion or will this significantly reduce the positive outcomes of the juice ?

Thanks for the advice pal, much appreciated.

 

[nicholasw]

Winny, being a DHT derivative, in addition to test, which will reduce to DHT is going to always be tough on the hairline of someone susceptible to MPB. If you opt for finasteride (and I don't), most will run it indefinitely, with a higher dose during cycle. Finasteride plus EQ won't compound things. Reducing DHT levels can prevent muscle hardness that DHT (and DHT-like compounds like winny or proviron) can give. It'll also lower your androgen:estrogen ratio ((test + DHT)estrogen), which can make one more susceptible to gyno.
Mg per MG, prop contains more test due to ester weight. This is really negligible in the doses we use. test E may allow for more water retention, but the ancillary doses I gave earlier will negate that. Ldex will reduce the conversion of test to estrogen, while nolva, being a SERM, will prevent estrogenic effects in the mammary, but be estrogenic in the bone and liver, thus helping your lipid profile and providing the estrogenic effects that are often mistakenly claimed to be missing while using anti e's.
I would first run GH for 1 month to acclimate yourself....you'll notice some water retention and probably numbness in the hands and feet...possibly other joint pains.

Ok thanks very much, one last q, would i need to use any nolva whilst aclimatising to gh for water or is the retention negligable?

Cheers dude, advice well needed.

 

[einstein1905]

Ok thanks very much, one last q, would i need to use any nolva whilst aclimatising to gh for water or is the retention negligable?

Cheers dude, advice well needed.

Nolva during GH alone won't help, as it's not due to estrogen. The water retention will be minimal with GH.
take care