Another cycling PED line-up with a twist

[friedsquash]

I bought it from china but realized it was bunk, lol, keep ur ferritine and iron high and dont run high doses check hct regularly and u should be gtg dont do big doses its not safe and necessary btw u do so much money with zwift racing?

You bought bunk EPO?!

No, Zwift has no money anymore. It's MyWhoosh (who sponsors Pogi), that oil money runs deep.

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Scroll down, you'll find a graphic with the winnings per race and at the end of the month for "finals". Easy money for an hour of my time. Minus the time of day I have to race it.

 

[bossetti]

You bought bunk EPO?!

No, Zwift has no money anymore. It's MyWhoosh (who sponsors Pogi), that oil money runs deep.

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Scroll down, you'll find a graphic with the winnings per race and at the end of the month for "finals". Easy money for an hour of my time. Minus the time of day I have to race it.

I didnt knew of these prize money on mywoosh lol

 

[bossetti]

I think there is a way to hack a scale pretty easy btw

 

[friedsquash]

Updates: I have maintained my power gains from cardarine and only took it for 20 days. I started taking oral ITPP immediately after and am moving to injectable ITPP tomorrow. I did two weeks of AICAR but couldn't handle the insane amount of hunger from it. I actually hit a 10min power PB today.

Oddly, since the cardarine, my comfortable cadence for almost everything has dropped nearly 10rpm. I have to use some serious brain power to keep it at my old happy cadence from August and earlier.

I investigating DADA next, and I'm getting blood work done on Tuesday. I'm curious to see what, if anything, has changed over the past 2-3 months.

 

[Thejackeddentist]

Ditch the GH or reduce the dose to 2iu pre bed which will be enough for the enhaced recovery. It doesn't do shit regarding aerobic capacity and power profile...you will loose some waterweight reducing the dose.
As @bossetti already emphasized....getting your hct to 55-60 levels is gamechanger.
You can try Evrenzo (roxadustat) if you are scared of EPO. You need to monitor your hct levels either way but trust me it is not easy to reach 55-60 even at megadoses of epo. Been there done that.

Recent observations I made experimenting with different substances impacting my cycling performance was the following....

GH only for the improved recovery. at 2iu pre-bed using legit pharma grade so in case of using generics maybe a bit higher dose (3) could be needed.

Injectable L carnitine at 15-20 mg per kg of bw is dealbreaking

MOTS-C preworkout or pre-race. 5mg at your bw is rocketfuel but slowly titrate to those levels starting of with 2mg for example

SLU PP 332 before workouts up to 1 mg

SS-31 for rest days

NAD+ 20-30 mg subQ preworkout

 

[reelvi]

Ditch the GH or reduce the dose to 2iu pre bed which will be enough for the enhaced recovery. It doesn't do shit regarding aerobic capacity and power profile...you will loose some waterweight reducing the dose.
As @bossetti already emphasized....getting your hct to 55-60 levels is gamechanger.
You can try Evrenzo (roxadustat) if you are scared of EPO. You need to monitor your hct levels either way but trust me it is not easy to reach 55-60 even at megadoses of epo. Been there done that.

Recent observations I made experimenting with different substances impacting my cycling performance was the following....

GH only for the improved recovery. at 2iu pre-bed using legit pharma grade so in case of using generics maybe a bit higher dose (3) could be needed.

Injectable L carnitine at 15-20 mg per kg of bw is dealbreaking

MOTS-C preworkout or pre-race. 5mg at your bw is rocketfuel but slowly titrate to those levels starting of with 2mg for example

SLU PP 332 before workouts up to 1 mg

SS-31 for rest days

NAD+ 20-30 mg subQ preworkout

Thank you very much for your insights.

Could you share your EPO experience and protocol?



Have you also had experience with 5-amino-1-mq?

What dosage worked best with SS-31?

 

[Thejackeddentist]

EPO is fairly straightforward. Some protocols use a loading phase with bigger doses for the first week. Basically I tried various protocols from microsdosing of 2 ius per kg to 6 ius per kg 3 week.

Monitoring HCT is mandatory. Baseline, another measuremnent 2 weeks in etc etc. Personally I could never get beyond 54 HCT despite blasting up to 60000iu per week. My epo was 10000% real pharma grade stored in cold chain etc since I got it directly from local pharmacies.

For 5 amino honestly so far the only improvement I noticed is reducing brain fog etc....I never went above 50 mg a day though. The majority of users reported higher dosages (100-150mg) made a difference.

for SS31 I did a mitohondria repair cycle for 2 weeks before hopping into mots-c and slu combo.

To be honest when I started the mots c slu combo I could tell a noticable difference within 2 rides (fatigue severly dimnished)....I got a feeling that I could ride at my zone 2 lower z3 for forever despite fasted etc...

Previously riding in the same zones fasted with no intraride fueling after 2,5 h I was toast.

 

[friedsquash]

Ditch the GH or reduce the dose to 2iu pre bed which will be enough for the enhaced recovery. It doesn't do shit regarding aerobic capacity and power profile...you will loose some waterweight reducing the dose.
As @bossetti already emphasized....getting your hct to 55-60 levels is gamechanger.
You can try Evrenzo (roxadustat) if you are scared of EPO. You need to monitor your hct levels either way but trust me it is not easy to reach 55-60 even at megadoses of epo. Been there done that.

Recent observations I made experimenting with different substances impacting my cycling performance was the following....

GH only for the improved recovery. at 2iu pre-bed using legit pharma grade so in case of using generics maybe a bit higher dose (3) could be needed.

Injectable L carnitine at 15-20 mg per kg of bw is dealbreaking

MOTS-C preworkout or pre-race. 5mg at your bw is rocketfuel but slowly titrate to those levels starting of with 2mg for example

SLU PP 332 before workouts up to 1 mg

SS-31 for rest days

NAD+ 20-30 mg subQ preworkout

With the ITPP and/or moving from an OTC to a prescription iron supplement per my PCP's recommendation, my hct has gone up to 40.5, ferritin from 30 to 77, and hgb from 12.5 to 13.3.

The ferritin has never been that high in blood testing life and has attributed massively to my energy levels.

As of two weeks ago, I've actually been off HGH as I had read that it could potentially hurt long sustained efforts. But I noticed once I was off after a few days the soreness after long hard days came back. So I'm assuming

Ditch the GH or reduce the dose to 2iu pre bed which will be enough for the enhaced recovery. It doesn't do shit regarding aerobic capacity and power profile...you will loose some waterweight reducing the dose.
As @bossetti already emphasized....getting your hct to 55-60 levels is gamechanger.
You can try Evrenzo (roxadustat) if you are scared of EPO. You need to monitor your hct levels either way but trust me it is not easy to reach 55-60 even at megadoses of epo. Been there done that.

Recent observations I made experimenting with different substances impacting my cycling performance was the following....

GH only for the improved recovery. at 2iu pre-bed using legit pharma grade so in case of using generics maybe a bit higher dose (3) could be needed.

Injectable L carnitine at 15-20 mg per kg of bw is dealbreaking

MOTS-C preworkout or pre-race. 5mg at your bw is rocketfuel but slowly titrate to those levels starting of with 2mg for example

SLU PP 332 before workouts up to 1 mg

SS-31 for rest days

NAD+ 20-30 mg subQ preworkout

I recently dropped HGH entirely. I read it could impair long endurance efforts, and I was curious how I'd respond going off. Plus, I didn't want to pack it for a long holiday I'm on...the only difference I noticed once off was my soreness after tough workouts came back, which I bet is going to affect my recovery. But I'm going to ride it out for a bit.

Since on my trip, I dropped everything except the testosterone. So it'll be fun adding things back in slowly once I'm back on the bike and into my routine. L-carnitine will be first!

I ended up getting some higher dose SLU, so I'm going to test that at some point too.

Because my ferritin dropped so low recently, my PCP finally prescribed a stronger iron supplement from the OTC one I had been taking for at least 5 years. After two months, my ferritin went from 28 to 77. Hgb up 12.5 to 13.3. And hct up 38.8 to 40.3. It's moving in the right direction, but definitely still have room to improve.

NAD+ gives me what feels like anxiety and heart palpitations. I can't seem to channel my energy whatsoever, and that's on 10mg. That's IM though. Maybe I can try SQ.

 

[Thejackeddentist]

regarding the dimnished recovery since dropping the GH I can definetely relate
Recovery wise it is on a whole other level with GH.