anyone else completely put down by deca?

[jJjburton]

.5mg 2x a week. the tren I was taking 300mg of a cutter blend and then added tren E after a couple weeks. Stopped taking the blend a while ago

Sorry man you are doing alot of things wrong….

Stop starting and stopping things, your body has to get leveled for a second.

Adex and that high of a dose before any esters kicks in is going to crash you estrogen…

So you started taking an AI before the deca and test was even at a peak, it never even started to take effect….

You should start the AI at week 3-4 not week 1? Did i read that right?

 

[jJjburton]

Also pick an amount of milligrams and stick to it, fluctuations cause isssues more then the compound itself

 

[dafqu1]

I would look at Adex long before Deca as well. I avoid AI unless I actually start to experience symptoms. I don’t ever take AIs as preventative.

It isn’t that they are inherently bad, but they can really turn things in their heads and can be difficult to dial in. You may have crashed your estrogen which absolutely can give symptoms you described.

Reality is you dumped a lot of stuff in without understanding dosages or modes of action. Result is you are having issues and don’t have bloodwork to help you fully understand what is truly the likely culprit.

At this point you should dial back to 500-600mg if still on blast or 200 mg/Wk of test cyp if on cruise and drop all other compounds and ancillaries.

Then _next_ blast add (1) compound and (0) ancillaries unless you get itchy nipples. Then do .25 arimedex 2x/week at most. (I would recommend nolvadex first if you are a high aromatizer)

Most people shouldn’t need any AI at typical blast dosages.

Experimenting is fine, but it should be controlled to understand impacts. Finger licking and sticking it in the air method is always a disaster.

really appreciate this information. Ive tried no ai before and was good for a couple weeks but for me when the gyno comes on there are no itchy nipple signs its just sharp nipple pain out of nowhere it comes on strong. I take the 1mg adex because i also take dbol as preworkout 20-50mg frequently I figure my estrogen is always on the higher end and 1mg adex /wk would keep it in check. Ive gotno blood work to confirm this though. You guys are right its all way too many variables I need to stop being an idiot before I get fucked up lol

 

[Astartes]

really appreciate this information. Ive tried no ai before and was good for a couple weeks but for me when the gyno comes on there are no itchy nipple signs its just sharp nipple pain out of nowhere it comes on strong. I take the 1mg adex because i also take dbol as preworkout 20-50mg frequently I figure my estrogen is always on the higher end and 1mg adex /wk would keep it in check. Ive gotno blood work to confirm this though. You guys are right its all way too many variables I need to stop being an idiot before I get fucked up lol

Your perspective and ability to be self honest will help you make better decisions moving forward … It will also help you be respected by veteran members.

We all did dumb things when we started. (Mostly due to lack of knowledge/education) Some of us stop and self adjust based on feedback and introspection. Some don’t. You will be just fine

 

[rocgutta]

Deca did that to me too... and halo some what, plus it gave me bad anxiety.. .. and 100 of tren ace a day is the max for me. equipoise is my go to now.

 

[MrHowie]

I cant even take 100mg of deca /week without it completely disabling me. Complete lethargy not able to do anything train even get up and work it turns me into a plant. It sucks because its the safest most effective steroid next to test i mean I was planning on taking it forever pretty much. Does anyone else have experience with this and pushing through and it gets better over time?? cuz I bought 10 vials of it lol...anyone want to trade 10 deca for 4 tren?? I guess on the bright side besides the toxicity i get no side effects with tren. Crazy how differently these things affect us

Dude I injected 2cc yesterday in my chest lol. I love Deca though so go figure..