Arail Pharmaceuticals - US Domestic

[AllGoodThings]

Damn, with that I don't know if even the foil will help. But let me know.

Yeah, I'm a bit perplexed. I'll update tomorrow

 

[RockyP]

Damn, with that I don't know if even the foil will help. But let me know.

If you wouldn’t mind letting us know if you get any swelling / redness / pain over the next 3-4 days that would be helpful for data collection. My current hypothesis is that any pip / delayed injection site reactions are a result of the Anadrol nucleating post injection before it can be properly absorbed / metabolized.

 

[Photon]

Yes same situation. Forming a very thick crystalization proving difficult to remedy.

My hot plate tops out at 176f. So I was able to evenly and cleanly wrap the vial in aluminum foil. My thought was more contact area heating the vial uniformly instead of conducting transfer through bottom of glass alone. This worked extremely well.

I'm not passing judgement on the microwave but that's really stupid whether it works or not. I'd also venture to say those who did have undoubtedly destroyed a large if not majority of the compound doing so. Microwaves cause dipole rotation in polar molecules. Safe to say, your no longer injecting at any guessable dosage. Microwaves don't heat uniformly, they target easier molecules first spiking temperatures which then transfer to the next.

After 183° for 15m, 196° for 10m, 202° for 10m, adding 1.5ml BB and 0.5ml BA, then another 25m at 196° and still seeing crystal stuck to the now nearly full vial, I gave up. I confirmed the temps on this relatively expensive mugwarmer are very accurate using a laser thermometer, so it's getting enough heat. I'll have to try BALLISTIC's aluminium foil method tomorrow

If you guys have a clean unused oven, you can put a needle in and heat it at 150c (300f)

 

[RockyP]

@Photon any idea how much EO would be needed to perhaps solve this? Would it need to be added and then heated / stirred for some time, or would just adding it to the existing solution suffice? Forgive me for asinine questions, I’m no brewer. For those of us who don’t mind EO we can perhaps DIY on our vials. These heating attempts seem futile.

 

[Photon]

@Photon any idea how much EO would be needed to perhaps solve this? Would it need to be added and then heated / stirred for some time, or would just adding it to the existing solution suffice? Forgive me for asinine questions, I’m no brewer. For those of us who don’t mind EO we can perhaps DIY on our vials. These heating attempts seem futile.

The issue is that you have large crystals.
If you manage to smash them or break it, it'll all dissolve in minutes with a mug warmer.

I don't think adding EO is going to help much. You'd probably need to add BB (but you need to dissolve it first).

I wouldn't pin anything that cant hold at least 2 days at room temp.

 

[RockyP]

I wouldn't pin anything that cant hold at least 2 days at room temp.

Most important piece of advice here. Thank you.

 

[BALLISTIC]

If you wouldn’t mind letting us know if you get any swelling / redness / pain over the next 3-4 days that would be helpful for data collection. My current hypothesis is that any pip / delayed injection site reactions are a result of the Anadrol nucleating post injection before it can be properly absorbed / metabolized.

Nope not a problem, I purchased a few vials and burned through the first 1 already it was slightly more stable. With that, it caused some rough pip. I don't complain, so a thera-gun and biting on a stick helps break up the spot and get me moving. Ventro glute, so it was slightly disabling. On a scale of 1-10, I'd put this pip at a 6-7. I have a strong pain tolerance but pip seems to be different no matter. Either way still rough. So your aware @Arail not talking bad, it's effective just painful at times.

If you guys have a clean unused oven, you can put a needle in and heat it at 150c (300f)

I've never done this worried about stopper and such. But I know you're on your A-game so I'll give it a try.

I wouldn't pin anything that cant hold at least 2 days at room temp.

specifically because of pip or something I'm unaware of? Thanks my man.

Most important piece of advice here. Thank you.

Learning curve for me coming up... Haha

 

[Photon]

Nope not a problem, I purchased a few vials and burned through the first 1 already it was slightly more stable. With that, it caused some rough pip. I don't complain, so a thera-gun and biting on a stick helps break up the spot and get me moving. Ventro glute, so it was slightly disabling. On a scale of 1-10, I'd put this pip at a 6-7. I have a strong pain tolerance but pip seems to be different no matter. Either way still rough. So your aware @Arail not talking bad, it's effective just painful at times.


I've never done this worried about stopper and such. But I know you're on your A-game so I'll give it a try.

Silicone in general can handle more heat vs normal rubber
It's just not as compatible with BB

specifically because of pip or something I'm unaware of? Thanks my man.

Higher chance of crashing after you pin it

 

[AlexDavis43]

If you wouldn’t mind letting us know if you get any swelling / redness / pain over the next 3-4 days that would be helpful for data collection. My current hypothesis is that any pip / delayed injection site reactions are a result of the Anadrol nucleating post injection before it can be properly absorbed / metabolized.

My current hypothesis is that any pip / delayed injection site reactions are a result of the Anadrol nucleating post injection before it can be properly absorbed / metabolized.

I don't think that can happen (re-crashing intramuscularly?)

Once it's in your body, with the heat and constant moving/bloodflow and massive dilution, seems impossible

 

[AlexDavis43]

After 183° for 15m, 196° for 10m, 202° for 10m, adding 1.5ml BB and 0.5ml BA, then another 25m at 196° and still seeing crystal stuck to the now nearly full vial, I gave up. I confirmed the temps on this relatively expensive mugwarmer are very accurate using a laser thermometer, so it's getting enough heat. I'll have to try BALLISTIC's aluminium foil method tomorrow

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pin it don't bin it

 

[RockyP]

I don't think that can happen (re-crashing intramuscularly?)

Once it's in your body, with the heat and constant moving/bloodflow and massive dilution, seems impossible

It’s very possible. It re crashes at ambient temp of 105 within hours. And that’s higher than body temp. It also fits the timeline of the delayed swelling / redness around the injection site 2-3 days after the pin.