Are These People Christians

[Grizzly]

I have to agree with Mill there. That's actually what my thoughts on the matter are. A guy believes what he is taught to believe.

You're right, also. There is no real penalty for not believing the Eastern philosphies. I use philosophies because, in essence, that's what they are. Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism and Hinduism are philosophies which were subsequently perverted and twisted into religions.

The only "penalty" associated with not living a proper Hindu life is that one is "condemned"LOL to an infinite cycle of rebirth into this world.

I had an East meets West course a couple of semesters ago. I always wanted to argue with the teacher. Actually, I did quite frequently, but she claimed that religions where you die and go on to an eternal afterlife were a cop out. Personally, I view reincarnation as a bigger cop out. No one wants to leave this existence because of the fear of the unknown. Believing that, for hundreds of lifetimes, you will live on earth and then eventually reach Nirvana and total nothingness sounds much more appealing than eternal servitude to me.

"It's better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."

There are hundreds of religions with more history than Christianity, Bob. And, no religion is deeper rooted in scientific fact.

What's the difference between a religion that believes the geography of Earth is caused by the war between the Gods and the original giants(more or less quick and semi-accurate paraphrasement of Odinism) and one in which the Earth is the way it is because some guy made it that way?

Neither is proveable or, currently, disprovable.

Hell, if we follow that line of logic, who's to say that Paul Bunyon really didn't create the grand canyon by dragging his axe across the ground when he was depressed?

 

[Bob Smith]

Im not a Christian BECAUSE science confirms it, but its a nice little add-on benefit. Science has strengthened and supported my beliefs much more than it has detracted from my faith.

 

[Bob Smith]

There are hundreds of religions with more history than Christianity, Bob.

More history, yes. Judaism has a great deal more history, to the tune of a few thousand years or more. More science backing it up? Not really, since Judaism is basically the Old Testament. Half of Christian history is the same as Jewish history.

And, no religion is deeper rooted in scientific fact.

As compared to what?

 

[Grizzly]

Shit! I lost what I just typed.

As to compared to each other. The vast majority of religions are similar in their foundations and creation tales. Thus, to disprove the creation tale of one disproves the creation tale of another.

To be like you for a moment , you still haven't answered my question of what happens if the Jews are right and Jesus was not the son of God?

 

[Bob Smith]

Shit! I lost what I just typed.

As to compared to each other. The vast majority of religions are similar in their foundations and creation tales. Thus, to disprove the creation tale of one disproves the creation tale of another.

To be like you for a moment , you still haven't answered my question of what happens if the Jews are right and Jesus was not the son of God?

Discounting one creation story doesnt automatically discount another version.

What happens if the Jews were right and Christ was only a prophet? Then we are all screwed.

 

[Hogg]

Third, on a side note, a marble WILL NOT slice through someone from 30 stories. It doesnt have enough mass and its terminal velocity is too slow.

[MK]

Nor did I state that it would. Rather, I expected, without crunching numbers, that it would still top out at roughly 130mph and would probably have a mass of an ounce at a quick guess which should be sufficient to crack the skull of a human and come to a stop just after plunging through the brain....soft of like a marble landing on a pillow. I had guessed a penetration of 6" from the point of impact and I'm going to stand by my guess. The impulse should be sufficient to shatter the skull and simultaneously knock the person to his knees.

I can run the numbers if necessary but I'm pretty confident that my ballpark guess is correct on the marble.

 

[Hogg]

Here is an easy way to think about it. You are driving 65mph and the opposing lane is travelling at the same speed. you reach your arm out the window and huck a marble at opposing traffic. I'd wager that the marble will make it through the safety glass.

 

[Rod]

I can't believe how much you guys can accomplish while working? You guys are able to hold down full time jobs and debate everything under the sun? I wish that I were able to multitask like that. I am not "a complete and total asshole", I am just impressed with your multitasking abilities.

 

[garyzilla]

Shit! I lost what I just typed.

As to compared to each other. The vast majority of religions are similar in their foundations and creation tales. Thus, to disprove the creation tale of one disproves the creation tale of another.

To be like you for a moment , you still haven't answered my question of what happens if the Jews are right and Jesus was not the son of God?

Good question Grizzly. But if one was to read the Old testament. Jesus fulfills all of the requirements, and prophesies of the Messiah, or Son of God. If you where to ask the Jews who then is the Scriptures talking about if not Jesus, they will say noone it is Jesus. But they still for some reason do not believe that he is the Son of God or the Messiah. It is almost like they know they made a mistake, and do not want to admit it.

-Pastor

 

[Rod]

Furthermore, I cant believe that you complete and utter assholes can spend the better part of a day debating and not hit on one relevant topic. Your irrelevance is completely and utterly baffling. Again, I am not trying to be a C&U A-hole; I'm just being silly.

 

[FTW]

Furthermore, I cant believe that you complete and utter assholes can spend the better part of a day debating and not hit on one relevant topic. Your irrelevance is completely and utterly baffling. Again, I am not trying to be a C&U A-hole; I'm just being silly.

I got the silly point; In fact I think that the above quote summarizes your silly point. Ftw you should be glad that I only criticized how you said the silly shit that you said. I was just being charitable.


Your "Biotch",
Rod



I guess silly is in style these days.

 

[Rod]

Yeah, I kind of admired your silly ways. I thought that it would be cool to be like you. I guess that I only criticized you because I was jealous. Please forgive me if you thought that I was a complete and utter asshole.

 

[FTW]

Yeah, I kind of admired your silly ways. I thought that it would be cool to be like you. I guess that I only criticized you because I was jealous. Please forgive me if you thought that I was a complete and utter asshole.

No big prob, but next time if you wana get your point across to me then send a PM or e-mail me cause if you wana make something public then it forces me to stand up for myself or get punked out. And when it comes down to fuk,fight or run there is only 1 option unless you have a twat.

 

[Rod]

Again I am sorry; I guess that I can act like "a complete and utter asshole" at times. I was drunk, and I was critical. Again, I am sorry, it made no sense to criticize you. Hope you can forgive me.

 

[FTW]

No big deal bro, now back to the silly shit.

 

[garyzilla]

Lets Close This Topic

Hey guys lets close this thread and start and new one, with a new topic! Any Ideas?

Pastor Gary

 

[Hogg]

Hey guys lets close this thread and start and new one, with a new topic! Any Ideas?

Pastor Gary

Yes, freemasonry and its origins ....the templar knights and all of that.

 

[thick]

break it down into feet per second. THat is roughly 1900 fps if i figured correctly. That is faster than a 1 OZ shotgun slug. Someone with a calculator please double check this. If this is correct, than damage would be extensive

Nor did I state that it would. Rather, I expected, without crunching numbers, that it would still top out at roughly 130mph and would probably have a mass of an ounce at a quick guess which should be sufficient to crack the skull of a human and come to a stop just after plunging through the brain....soft of like a marble landing on a pillow. I had guessed a penetration of 6" from the point of impact and I'm going to stand by my guess. The impulse should be sufficient to shatter the skull and simultaneously knock the person to his knees.

I can run the numbers if necessary but I'm pretty confident that my ballpark guess is correct on the marble.

 

[dolfe1]

break it down into feet per second. THat is roughly 1900 fps if i figured correctly. That is faster than a 1 OZ shotgun slug. Someone with a calculator please double check this. If this is correct, than damage would be extensive

I say closer to 80mph, maybe less, a marble does not weigh one oz, a penny weighs about a gram, pick up 28 pennies, much heavier than a marble. Terminal Velocity of a penny is about 55mph or (thick) 84 fps.

 

[CyniQ]

break it down into feet per second. THat is roughly 1900 fps if i figured correctly. That is faster than a 1 OZ shotgun slug. Someone with a calculator please double check this. If this is correct, than damage would be extensive

I'd feel much better if we weren't talking about MY head!

If I told you that getting hit by an apple that was dropped on your head from 30 stories up would hurt like a son-of-a-bitch, having a differing opinion would be ignorance... How about a marble or a pachinko ball?