Aromasin ruined me for good..

Coconutz

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Hello my friends! i bring the community warnings of long term Aromasin use.

up until 2 years ago, i took aromasin on blasts and trt doses for about 6-7 years straight., im 42 now. it sure SEEMS like it gets stronger as time goes on and i needed less and less. Thats because it PERMANANTLY disables the aromatase enzyme in men(suicidal inhibitor). Well, my enzymes never came back to anywhere near what they were, if at all. ill have to find the article, but aromatase enzymes can be turned OFF by a specific gene. I question if Aromasin has altered DNA in some men with prolonged use, which is why some men dont get destroyed by it.

I can no longer take ANY testosterone without supplemental oral AND injectable estradiol valerate multiple times a day. the more test i take, the worse it gets. probably from DHT antagonizing E2. i cant take zinc or quite a few other supplements either without estrogen. There are many people reporting the same thing about aromasin on many different boards.. Its been a nightmare trying to get trt dialed in before i started taking estrogen. my body hold ZERO fluids without it, yet my face bloats like a puffer fish with razor ripped abs, my skin dries to a crisp, wounds dont heal, no libido, crippling anxiety. ive tried stopping estrogen a few times in this 2 years to see if i no longer need it. NOPE. im fucked in a week with all those symptoms all over again, and they seem worse. im 6'1 210 all year round. i stop estrogen, i drop 10lbs of water in a matter of a few days, my prostate blows up like a balloon, and im debating on chewing on the end of a pistol. The psychological effects of this is completely debilitating to the point i lost many accounts from my business. i NEVER in my life had anxiety till this happened, ill kinda stand there completely lost shaking. The first time that happend, i got checked out because i thought i had a seizure. i did not.If i stop estrogen, its guaranteed to happen again. Estradiol is exponentially more important to my body than testosterone now.

Anybody else have any experience with this? I know i read at least a few guys on here repeating something similiar to this. A few of my friends in real life are going thru the exact same thing too, and having estradiol presribed to them by doctors. The doctors are terrified of this, yet slowly getting board seeing this is a REAL problem stemming from aromasin. This is something brand new that the mainstream medical establishment doesnt even recognize yet, and just tries to force anti depressants down everybodys throats and call ya crazy

I know a lot of you guys on here wont believe this either, because of your own positive experiences with aromasin. Which i also had at a certain point. Ive read over and over about how the old school golden era guys in the 70s and 80s NEVER complained about low estrogen. well in my opinion thats because AIs wernt around yet and they used a lot of dbol. Nor was there an internet for everybody to come whine on. Not to mention, Men back then were real men and not psychologically castrated by society. They didnt complain about shit for fear of being labelled a pussy and beat up by their friends.
 
I feel horrible without a.i therefore I can't run aas without it arimidex messed my hdl waiting for aromasin blood work..
On the other side supplementing with dhea and pregnenalone always boosts my e2 twice as higher than without them..
A price to pay for full hrt..
 
Tell us more about your usage. Dosage, frequency etc.

What's your bloodwork look like these days?

What kind of E2 numbers were you aiming for when you were using?
 
Hello my friends! i bring the community warnings of long term Aromasin use.

up until 2 years ago, i took aromasin on blasts and trt doses for about 6-7 years straight., im 42 now. it sure SEEMS like it gets stronger as time goes on and i needed less and less. Thats because it PERMANANTLY disables the aromatase enzyme in men(suicidal inhibitor). Well, my enzymes never came back to anywhere near what they were, if at all. ill have to find the article, but aromatase enzymes can be turned OFF by a specific gene. I question if Aromasin has altered DNA in some men with prolonged use, which is why some men dont get destroyed by it.

I can no longer take ANY testosterone without supplemental oral AND injectable estradiol valerate multiple times a day. the more test i take, the worse it gets. probably from DHT antagonizing E2. i cant take zinc or quite a few other supplements either without estrogen. There are many people reporting the same thing about aromasin on many different boards.. Its been a nightmare trying to get trt dialed in before i started taking estrogen. my body hold ZERO fluids without it, yet my face bloats like a puffer fish with razor ripped abs, my skin dries to a crisp, wounds dont heal, no libido, crippling anxiety. ive tried stopping estrogen a few times in this 2 years to see if i no longer need it. NOPE. im fucked in a week with all those symptoms all over again, and they seem worse. im 6'1 210 all year round. i stop estrogen, i drop 10lbs of water in a matter of a few days, my prostate blows up like a balloon, and im debating on chewing on the end of a pistol. The psychological effects of this is completely debilitating to the point i lost many accounts from my business. i NEVER in my life had anxiety till this happened, ill kinda stand there completely lost shaking. The first time that happend, i got checked out because i thought i had a seizure. i did not.If i stop estrogen, its guaranteed to happen again. Estradiol is exponentially more important to my body than testosterone now.

Anybody else have any experience with this? I know i read at least a few guys on here repeating something similiar to this. A few of my friends in real life are going thru the exact same thing too, and having estradiol presribed to them by doctors. The doctors are terrified of this, yet slowly getting board seeing this is a REAL problem stemming from aromasin. This is something brand new that the mainstream medical establishment doesnt even recognize yet, and just tries to force anti depressants down everybodys throats and call ya crazy

I know a lot of you guys on here wont believe this either, because of your own positive experiences with aromasin. Which i also had at a certain point. Ive read over and over about how the old school golden era guys in the 70s and 80s NEVER complained about low estrogen. well in my opinion thats because AIs wernt around yet and they used a lot of dbol. Nor was there an internet for everybody to come whine on. Not to mention, Men back then were real men and not psychologically castrated by society. They didnt complain about shit for fear of being labelled a pussy and beat up by their friends.
Did you by any chance get bloodwork when using ai? Was it prescribed or your just doing it by feels?

I know aromasin is strong since it nuked my e2 the only time I used it. It's hard to dial it down to the right amount to accommodate the amount of test I was using, it was a nightmare so I opted to cut my dose instead.

I have so many friends who are sensitive to aromatization and use it based on bloodwork and symptoms stay fine. Unless you go to a trt clinic where they push these drugs, you will find that most gym goers are pretty conservative with ais ime.
 
I feel horrible without a.i therefore I can't run aas without it arimidex messed my hdl waiting for aromasin blood work..
On the other side supplementing with dhea and pregnenalone always boosts my e2 twice as higher than without them..
A price to pay for full hrt..
This just proves its not a one size fits all approach to trt. Dhea and preg don't budge my e2. Nor does hcg. I take those in addition to estradiol
 
Tell us more about your usage. Dosage, frequency etc.

What's your bloodwork look like these days?

What kind of E2 numbers were you aiming for when you were using?
I'll go into more detail later on doses while I'm on a laptop. Estradiol allows me to blast higher test again. More test I take, more e2 I need.

I'm not even 100% dialed in yet. Injectable estradiol valerate needs to be taken 2x a day for me which is a bitch to comply with. Alone with oral estradiol valerate every few hours. It's out of me quickly. I'm waiting on estradiol enanthate to get more stable e2, then start blood testing e2. There's a guy kn reddit that's feeling amazing with 1000 e2 levels. This stuff still.mak3s me a bit nervous
 
Did you by any chance get bloodwork when using ai? Was it prescribed or your just doing it by feels?

I know aromasin is strong since it nuked my e2 the only time I used it. It's hard to dial it down to the right amount to accommodate the amount of test I was using, it was a nightmare so I opted to cut my dose instead.

I have so many friends who are sensitive to aromatization and use it based on bloodwork and symptoms stay fine. Unless you go to a trt clinic where they push these drugs, you will find that most gym goers are pretty conservative with ais ime.
I absolutely got lots of blood work 2 years ago when I was under a doctor's care getting aromasin prescribed to me. My very last protocol was 25mg test e eod, 1 mg aromasin eod. This got me 800 test and fucking 7 e2. Mind you im fucking suicidal at this point.. Doctor wanted to lower aromasin to .5 eod. I told him to fucknoff and started blasting TNE. that was a godsend at first. That's sooooo unsustainable from all the knots tho.

When I was bodybuilding pretty hard-core I'd need only about 25mg aromasin split thru thr week ok 1500mg test. I was very consecutive with ais. Obviously not enough lol.

I thought I was doing the correct thing going legit thru a doctor getting my hormones prescribed to me. Bit me in thr ass badly
 
I absolutely got lots of blood work 2 years ago when I was under a doctor's care getting aromasin prescribed to me. My very last protocol was 25mg test e eod, 1 mg aromasin eod. This got me 800 test and fucking 7 e2. Mind you im fucking suicidal at this point.. Doctor wanted to lower aromasin to .5 eod. I told him to fucknoff and started blasting TNE. that was a godsend at first. That's sooooo unsustainable from all the knots tho.

When I was bodybuilding pretty hard-core I'd need only about 25mg aromasin split thru thr week ok 1500mg test. I was very consecutive with ais. Obviously not enough lol.

I thought I was doing the correct thing going legit thru a doctor getting my hormones prescribed to me. Bit me in thr ass badly
It is really different for more advanced guys; for us who never got to 1 gram threshold, hell I didn't even touched 750mg test lol, we will never know the challenges of balancing e2 unless you're a heavy aromatizer.

One more reason to stay more conservative or baby doses I guess if your risk tolerance is lower.
 
Via my current blood work
E2 above 200
Test 75

Today I introduced aromasin will split 25mg 3 times a week will do blood work in 1 month and update..
My aromasin is pharma grade coated pills by pyzer
 
This seems really odd. Hope u can get it figured out. Sounds like a fucked up situation where youre purposely trying to get estrogen. Idk maybe you should question the source of your drugs
 
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This seems really odd. Hope u can get it figured out. Sounds like a fucked up situation where youre purposely trying to get estrogen. Idk maybe you should question the source of your drugs
Come on now dude, you really think I got fake aromasin from my doctor?? Lol.
 
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do you think adex or letro could cause this same problem given enough time and use???
I'm really not sure bro. They are designed different than aromasin. Aromasin disables the enzyme. Letro and adex just block at the receptor. All three of them are womens cancer medication. I'm sure somewhere down the line there may be an issue, as wjth any drug.I mean people die from drinking too much water.
 
This just proves its not a one size fits all approach to trt. Dhea and preg don't budge my e2. Nor does hcg. I take those in addition to estradiol
LOL, I know some clowns that will melt and argue with you to the death about the one size does not fit all statement.

I'm a rational person though, so I agree. One size can certainly fit many but def not all.

Same can be said for best training programs.
 
OP, that is some weird ass shit in your first post. Anything other than personal experience to help explain? Any writeups or other commentary?
 
LOL, I know some clowns that will melt and argue with you to the death about the one size does not fit all statement.

I'm a rational person though, so I agree. One size can certainly fit many but def not all.

Same can be said for best training programs.
Oh I know this lol. I've been flamed off a a trt board where doctors are worshipped as gods. Its hilarious how most of those guys on those boards cant find their libido and feel like shit. Duh. Lol. Do something different dummies lol. Fuck em if they can't keep an open mind. If I can help one soul, ive accomplised my goal. This is just what works for ME.

This type of experimenting fascinates Me. I'm California sober now, but have toyed around with every rec drug under the sun that hasn't killed me. I'm not afraid of a little estrogen that I can STOP at any time.

Supplementing estrogen is brand new in men. If this shaves a decade of my life when I'm in diapers and a wheelchair, so be it. Those are the years I don't want, i don't have kids. I Feel good TODAY. That's what matters to me most
 
I have read a similar article about this as well a year or so back. Can't seem to find it.

I'm actually using around for thay reason. I can't even take 350mg of test without my E2 spiking an turning me into a PMS mess.

However, after quite a number of bloods, I can now identify the symptoms of high e2 better. Pimples, fatigue, sore joints etc and state whether it is high or low e2.

Mostly it is now a single 6.25mg tablet on the first inject day of the week.

Some weeks I no longer need it - will need to get a new blood test to finally confirm if my body has responded to not converting high test into e2 and then I might be able to drop the aromasin entirely.

Hopefully you end up figuring something out for your situation, bud.
 
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