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Ascendant Labs said:
Still reading but I have to comment. Prop is so cheap I have no problem replacing but I want a retest. Same with the Deca. Wheres the vet that's going to test my whole line? No disrespect to the guy who tested but he has 7 posts. I stand by my products 100%. I'll say it again, worse comes to worse, ill replace every vial but its mind boggling that of all the powders the prop would fail. It doesn't make sense.
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Your prop is not the only one that failed. Two other UGLs were tested and they both failed also. I believe Flenser tested the other two and have absolute respect for his testing.

Maybe you should send it out to a real lab and have lab tests done.
 
BR1217 said:
I will be testing TestE, TestP, Deca, NPP this Saturday, I am out on business till then. TrenE and TrenA have already passed so I wont do them. Am I missing one? I think that's all of them.
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Thank you! What ever his results are, ill stand by tem 100%. Meaning if any product fails though they wont, I'll replace them. Nothing more to say than wait till then. Helix.
 
I will also say that I posted blood work earlier in this thread. I was running TestP/NPP. TestP was at 350mg/week and scored >1500, with a really high estrogen level also. This is the from the same batch as everyone else I believe. Check it out.
 
Ok here is my 2 cent I understand about questioning the guy who did the test and him being new but from what I read in his post it sounds like he is new on meso but has some hands on test experience with labmax and I see nothing to make me think he not being honest or anything. As far as the deca from everything I have seen so far there is some color variation lab to lab and I think a probable pass based on both trens passing is fair. To me the deca looks good but I would defer to flenser and gun as well as others with multiple test experience under the belt to make a call on it. As to the test p I agree that why would any ugl sell bad prop on purpose but there is clearly something wrong with it. Thats my 2 cents
 
joe0035 said:
Ok here is my 2 cent I understand about questioning the guy who did the test and him being new but from what I read in his post it sounds like he is new on meso but has some hands on test experience with labmax and I see nothing to make me think he not being honest or anything. As far as the deca from everything I have seen so far there is some color variation lab to lab and I think a probable pass based on both trens passing is fair. To me the deca looks good but I would defer to flenser and gun as well as others with multiple test experience under the belt to make a call on it. As to the test p I agree that why would any ugl sell bad prop on purpose but there is clearly something wrong with it. Thats my 2 cents
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For the record, im not accusing anyone of having an agenda. Bottom line, itll all get resolved this sat. If anyone needs to reach me, email. Helix.
 
Spyder said:
What do you mean exactly? I do trust BR1217 to do the testing.
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I'm not calling any one person out , but take Pep for instance , the same batch of test prop that came up false on Labmax got 1500> blood test from several members . And I made some great gains on my last Pep test blast , a little pippy but good for strength gains and boners , I know it was good .....:confused:
 
Oregongearhead said:
I'm not calling any one person out , but take Pep for instance , the same batch of test prop that came up false on Labmax got 1500> blood test from several members . And I made some great gains on my last Pep test blast , a little pippy but good for strength gains and boners , I know it was good .....:confused:
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As I understand it, just because the labmax is off doesn't mean the sample doesn't contain Test, or whatever compound its supposed to be. I can only speak for myself, but certainly no agenda here other than community safety (I was actually very reluctant to post), and have no problem deferring to BR1217s results.
 
Oregongearhead said:
Flenser,Gunrunner and BR are all great guys , I guess I'm questioning the test itself.......whats its record for false positives/negatives ??
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I've posted this in multiple threads, but I will say it again. It's a chemical reaction. It reacts the same every time. It changes to a known color when a specific set of compounds are present, in this case oil + BA + BB + testosterone proprionate. If it doesn't change to the correct color, the label on the vial is incorrect.

The tested gear could be legit, but have some contaminate like some other kind of testosterone... or maybe mercury or lead. If you are pinning the gear and are happy with it, that's OK with me. The labmax tests are not ideal for our purposes, and are definitely going to fail some gear that would be safe and effective to pin. But the tests are very unlikely to pass gear that is unsafe to pin.
 
Oregongearhead said:
Flenser,Gunrunner and BR are all great guys , I guess I'm questioning the test itself.......whats its record for false positives/negatives ??
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This is the company Narcotic Tests - M.M.C. International B.V.

From their site:

Are your tests approved/tested?

"The MMC Tests are manufactured in accordance with the NIJ Standards and ISO-9001:2000. Also many of our tests are approved by the DFS Virginia Scientific Forensic Dept and some tests are approved by the Home Office UK. A lot of our tests are tested by Customs & Excise Authorities, Army and Police Forces. Some test reports may be found in our download section."

Maybe there is contact info off of the site above that you can ask about it. But for me something that needs to hold up in court is good enough for me.

Here is an email address:
Code: 
info@mmcinter.com

More info from website:

"M.M.C. International’s laboratory is especiallyfocused on the production and development of narcotic identification products. The tests are produced in accordance with the requirements set by Police Forces, Customs & Excise and
Forensic Laboratories. The ampoules are filled with special treated
solid materials which are impregnated with very high quality reagents and a blanket of high purity nitrogen and hermitically sealed. Each batch is continuously tested and registered. "
 
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Ascendant Labs said:
Still reading but I have to comment. Prop is so cheap I have no problem replacing but I want a retest. Same with the Deca. Wheres the vet that's going to test my whole line? No disrespect to the guy who tested but he has 7 posts. I stand by my products 100%. I'll say it again, worse comes to worse, ill replace every vial but its mind boggling that of all the powders the prop would fail. It doesn't make sense.
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He had quite a few more posts if you count the PMs to me asking me to look at his results and give my opinion. I encouraged him to post the results. He was reluctant to do so.

I believe your deca is OK. A few others have looked at it with the same opinion. When I first saw the pics, I compared them to an old chart with a different UV color listed. I listed it on the summary sheet as a probable pass, and I wouldn't have a problem using it.

No one is accusing you or your source of scamming anyone. The fact is there is something other than correctly/traditionally brewed testosterone proprionate in the vials, and I personally would not use it without more information on what it does contain.

You're buying from a "trusted" source that buys from someone else, and you sure didn't test the raws you received fully before you brewed and sold it. UGLs have been doing that for years with few complaints, but that doesn't make it a safe practice. Some may be willing to accept gear that won't pass these tests. Knowing I can find gear that does pass, I would not use it myself.
 
Spyder said:
This is the company Narcotic Tests - M.M.C. International B.V.

From their site:

Are your tests approved/tested?

"The MMC Tests are manufactured in accordance with the NIJ Standards and ISO-9001:2000. Also many of our tests are approved by the DFS Virginia Scientific Forensic Dept and some tests are approved by the Home Office UK. A lot of our tests are tested by Customs & Excise Authorities, Army and Police Forces. Some test reports may be found in our download section."

Maybe there is contact info off of the site above that you can ask about it. But for me something that needs to hold up in court is good enough for me.
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OOH ! I didnt like that website , got out of there quickly .......had a po-po feel to it [:o)]
 
noah_k said:
Tester received bloods yesterday, > 1500 as well (didn't get the exact range, seems to be hit or miss with labs via privatemd)!

Just like BR, he's running NPP + Test Prop, all from AL. Started off with bio prop for 2 weeks.

AL seems like a great guy from some back and forths, and really happy to see his product and customer service has held up. Another nice public source established on meso.
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Just went back and found this. This could've been from a different batch but who knows. I think Noah said this was his cousin who was testing for AL
 
I know! I am not very tech savy! It is test vial a. Olive green is the color for a pass for test p. I am going to have some help this afternoon with the rest of the tests..
 
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