Atlantic Labs (us domestic aas supplier)

Bogo vial of pure cooking oil AND save 20% off. That’s great dude.

Hey if anyone ordered the Fina please fess up, you’d be doing MESO a service!

@Atlantic Labs, you know just as well as I do that no one ordered your fina. That’s bullshit. There’s NO difference between the Tren that’s in finaplix and the Tren Ace raws (unless the raws YOU use suck) pure Tren Ace is pure Tren Ace. Fucking get out of here with your bullshit “fina feelzzzz stronger”. More bullshit from you.

You are successfully building MIStrust here. Shitbag source.

Dont get me started on that....
The whole "this type of tren is better brah"
Or "Pharma GH is completely different"
Or the "Pharma test is in another level than UGL"

Do people not fucking understand how moleculeswork?

I guess HPLC testing is useless.
If Pharma Test E is 250mg/ml at 98% purity... and UGL is 250mg/ml and 99% pure...
The UGL is fucking better.

There is no magical fucking unicorn dust that makes one better than the other for gains.

Sure there is a certain confidence ans security of running Pharma ... but for fuck fakes, people should just say that.

Sorry... rant over..

Also, pellet tren....what the fuck
 
Dont get me started on that....
The whole "this type of tren is better brah"
Or "Pharma GH is completely different"
Or the "Pharma test is in another level than UGL"

Do people not fucking understand how moleculeswork?

I guess HPLC testing is useless.
If Pharma Test E is 250mg/ml at 98% purity... and UGL is 250mg/ml and 99% pure...
The UGL is fucking better.

There is no magical fucking unicorn dust that makes one better than the other for gains.

Sure there is a certain confidence ans security of running Pharma ... but for fuck fakes, people should just say that.

Sorry... rant over..

Also, pellet tren....what the fuck

Exactly. It’s stupid. Pure O2 is pure oxygen not like one brand is gonna let you breathe any better. Same with hormones.

Fina pellet Tren was what the OGs used because raw powders weren’t available. Back then it was “smuggled from Mexico” or go to the Agway and buy heifer pellets. With the availability of raws it seems like a step backwards. One ml of that is 75 mg instead of 100 sO eXpLaInS to me hOwS tHaT StRoNgEr?

Can you answer that @Atlantic Labs how is
75 mg > 100 mg? [emoji123]
 
As I said I did A LOT of reading in my time away. I combed through more threads here than I care to recollect on. Out of all those threads @SymBiotics is the only lab I’ve seen come out here with tested product. Not tgi or any other lab I’ve seen do well has had testing from the start. I’ve mentioned that I see the necessity of testing and am in the process of making it happen. That said testing has only been an option for a short time and many labs I’ve seen tested where putting out accurately dosed products long beforehand.

Also I have observed things taking a similar course in these threads. Certain members that admittedly never even use ugl gear make a ton of unrealistic demands. (Again not actually potential customers at all.) While others that are actually interested customers are belittled and bullied for asking questions or inquiries. All the while seeming much more about bending to a certain few members whims than any sort of real harm reduction. Especially the demeaning bit about needing to see our wives rack.

Anyhow I will be doing everything I have promised I would. Testing will be squared away soon. All pharm products are about 2 weeks out, they will be added to the list as they come in.(Pictures included) Aside from the testing which I can’t really speed up, I’m open to ideas. I’d be willing to send some fina to a high ranking member. He can verify it’s potency for the board. All out in the open.

Additionally @BigBaldBeardGuy im not making any such claim about the fina. I’ve received multiple emails and have said something pretty similar to what you have. That tren is just tren. In my experience and in the experience of those who have tried it, it has just seemed stronger or better in some way. Similar to a tren hex.
 
As I said I did A LOT of reading in my time away. I combed through more threads here than I care to recollect on. Out of all those threads @SymBiotics is the only lab I’ve seen come out here with tested product. Not tgi or any other lab I’ve seen do well has had testing from the start. I’ve mentioned that I see the necessity of testing and am in the process of making it happen. That said testing has only been an option for a short time and many labs I’ve seen tested where putting out accurately dosed products long beforehand.

Also I have observed things taking a similar course in these threads. Certain members that admittedly never even use ugl gear make a ton of unrealistic demands. (Again not actually potential customers at all.) While others that are actually interested customers are belittled and bullied for asking questions or inquiries. All the while seeming much more about bending to a certain few members whims than any sort of real harm reduction. Especially the demeaning bit about needing to see our wives rack.

Anyhow I will be doing everything I have promised I would. Testing will be squared away soon. All pharm products are about 2 weeks out, they will be added to the list as they come in.(Pictures included) Aside from the testing which I can’t really speed up, I’m open to ideas. I’d be willing to send some fina to a high ranking member. He can verify it’s potency for the board. All out in the open.

Additionally @BigBaldBeardGuy im not making any such claim about the fina. I’ve received multiple emails and have said something pretty similar to what you have. That tren is just tren. In my experience and in the experience of those who have tried it, it has just seemed stronger or better in some way. Similar to a tren hex.

The reason for the first portion of your post is simple.

I'll provide an example.
I will NEVERA BUY your gear, ever.
Because I'm Canadian

BUT Meso core purpose is harm reduction.
So I will ask questions in the BEHALF of your potential customers to hopefully HELP keep them safe.
Same with BigBaldBeardGuy
Hes not buying your stuff.
But he cares about this community more than almost anyone.

Sym is successful as fuck

Quite simply because he followed this template, you can have the same success, if you follow the aforementioned template.

Also
If anything Tren Hex is weaker than Ace.
Is has LESS hormone per Mg than Ace, due to ester weight.
 
I’ve been improving my process and stacking raws over this time. I’ve also attempted to get more pharm meds available but due to corona effecting availability I’ve had to put those on hold.

As for the pellet tren, I have it available from both raw and component. I personally find the difference to be overwhelming. Anyone who has run it will tell you the difference. What was confusing me is that members were claiming it was somehow unavailable.

I did the learn from my first time here. I’ve also done a fair amount of reading. To be perfectly honest i wouldn’t be on the internet selling drugs if I was rolling in dough. I intend to test my product and to donate to the cause asked but for now raws and everything I’ve invested in this has me stretched a bit thin.

That said I will be doing my absolute best to take care of all pics and questions. I’ll be here checking in regularly, multiple times a day. I will have proof of stock and some other pics up later tonight.
How fucking stupid is that? I spent all my money on raws that I don’t know the quality of. After I break the bank on buying raws I really hope are legit and some morons order then I’ll test my gear and hopefully it checks out. You suck at life. Hang it up man find a different way to make some money or go pay some fees to bop and say brother every other sentence to get sales. Obviously you have a problem comprehending what you read if your still operating the way you are. Try Uber or maybe get a warehouse job overnight a few nights a week because selling steroids isn’t going to work for you. The two jobs stated are something more on your level, chemistry is definitely not.
 
So I’m certain this means you won’t be open for business until things are tested. No reason to be advertising what the dosage is when you are guessing on every dosage. You don’t test your raws or your finished so you have no idea what anything is dosed at.
See my point? o_O

Personally I’m not a big @janoshik fan either. As a member I’d want to go with a different testing service myself. That’s just me and one person doesn’t make a community!
I respect other members that do accept Janos test reports and use his service.
Ok, now to my point where I’m still convinced you’re a dumbass...
You are a source that refuses to use a testing service that a lot of members here use and believe is credible. Most sources would accommodate to those members, but not you. :oops:
Like it or not, Jano is the most used testing source here. So for you (a SOURCE trying to get a foot in the door) to refuse Jano is just idiotic! As a member I can understand using another testing service, but as a source I can’t understand it?
Seems to me it’s just another way you can get out of testing your products! o_O Why else would you refuse to spend hundreds in order to make thousands!?!? Ohh, because your buddy had a bad experience, pshht... this is business and about making money, right? So do shit the right way, without excuses, and make some fuckin money by doing so.
Put the work in to find a tester you believe is more solid or use Jano and get your shit tested! You’re just making it harder on yourself, ya methed up bicycle riding dumbass! :)

Well fuck, so much for waiting until testing comes back from the tester you pick and like...:rolleyes:

It’s obvious you are capable of making decisions, but why are they always bad ones?
o_O

Yay! 20% off mystery gear that hasn't been tested, sold by an ametuer who's ignored the last two pages of posts.

Bogo vial of pure cooking oil AND save 20% off. That’s great dude.

Hey if anyone ordered the Fina please fess up, you’d be doing MESO a service!

@Atlantic Labs, you know just as well as I do that no one ordered your fina. That’s bullshit. There’s NO difference between the Tren that’s in finaplix and the Tren Ace raws (unless the raws YOU use suck) pure Tren Ace is pure Tren Ace. Fucking get out of here with your bullshit “fina feelzzzz stronger”. More bullshit from you.

You are successfully building MIStrust here. Shitbag source.

How fucking stupid is that? I spent all my money on raws that I don’t know the quality of. After I break the bank on buying raws I really hope are legit and some morons order then I’ll test my gear and hopefully it checks out. You suck at life. Hang it up man find a different way to make some money or go pay some fees to bop and say brother every other sentence to get sales. Obviously you have a problem comprehending what you read if your still operating the way you are. Try Uber or maybe get a warehouse job overnight a few nights a week because selling steroids isn’t going to work for you. The two jobs stated are something more on your level, chemistry is definitely not.

As I said I did A LOT of reading in my time away. I combed through more threads here than I care to recollect on. Out of all those threads @SymBiotics is the only lab I’ve seen come out here with tested product. Not tgi or any other lab I’ve seen do well has had testing from the start. I’ve mentioned that I see the necessity of testing and am in the process of making it happen. That said testing has only been an option for a short time and many labs I’ve seen tested where putting out accurately dosed products long beforehand.

Also I have observed things taking a similar course in these threads. Certain members that admittedly never even use ugl gear make a ton of unrealistic demands. (Again not actually potential customers at all.) While others that are actually interested customers are belittled and bullied for asking questions or inquiries. All the while seeming much more about bending to a certain few members whims than any sort of real harm reduction. Especially the demeaning bit about needing to see our wives rack.

Anyhow I will be doing everything I have promised I would. Testing will be squared away soon. All pharm products are about 2 weeks out, they will be added to the list as they come in.(Pictures included) Aside from the testing which I can’t really speed up, I’m open to ideas. I’d be willing to send some fina to a high ranking member. He can verify it’s potency for the board. All out in the open.

Additionally @BigBaldBeardGuy im not making any such claim about the fina. I’ve received multiple emails and have said something pretty similar to what you have. That tren is just tren. In my experience and in the experience of those who have tried it, it has just seemed stronger or better in some way. Similar to a tren hex.

People are being "harsh" in your words because having sources come without testing sets a bad precedent for the board as a whole. If I was a source and I knew I had good raws and could brew I couldn't wait to have that shit tested so I could prove my product quality and make money. Everyone has told you to get your product tested before continuing or posting price lists.

Also saying you spent all your money on raws and cant afford testing is not a good excuse because it shows you don't know how to manage your finances and run a business.
 
People are being "harsh" in your words because having sources come without testing sets a bad precedent for the board as a whole. If I was a source and I knew I had good raws and could brew I couldn't wait to have that shit tested so I could prove my product quality and make money. Everyone has told you to get your product tested before continuing or posting price lists.

Also saying you spent all your money on raws and cant afford testing is not a good excuse because it shows you don't know how to manage your finances and run a business.
Very valid point with the last sentence
 
Not tgi or any other lab I’ve seen do well has had testing from the start.

TGI didn’t come with testing. It’s not a real requirement. If you read that thread, he was slow and not very popular at first. Right around October/November he decided to submit samples and business took off from there. His sales after that taught him that lab testing was very valuable. We ask for it because it shows you take PRIDE in your product.

Venom wasn’t tested, but when he was, it was all underdosed and he was RAN DA FUCK OUTTA HERE. - Is that what you want? It’s not forgiving. It’s in your best interests to verify your product sooner rather than later.

While others that are actually interested customers are belittled and bullied for asking questions or inquiries. All the while seeming much more about bending to a certain few members whims than any sort of real harm reduction.

Where? Point this out. I specifically indicate that we DO NOT belittle guys for ordering. I’d be shocked if you could find ONE real example.

@Elroy Jetson said he placed an order the other day. He’s done some dumb stuff before that he gets shit for but I SPECIFICALLY was very nice to him for taking a chance with you.

Especially the demeaning bit about needing to see our wives rack.

This isn’t even really done anymore. A member Jaymaximus comes on and points out it has nothing to do with the gear. So it’s not really done anymore cause if he sees it Jaymaximus will tear into the guy that requests it.

I’d be willing to send some fina to a high ranking member. He can verify it’s potency for the board. All out in the open.

No. That’s not done here.
 
As I said I did A LOT of reading in my time away. I combed through more threads here than I care to recollect on. Out of all those threads @SymBiotics is the only lab I’ve seen come out here with tested product. Not tgi or any other lab I’ve seen do well has had testing from the start. I’ve mentioned that I see the necessity of testing and am in the process of making it happen. That said testing has only been an option for a short time and many labs I’ve seen tested where putting out accurately dosed products long beforehand.

So you said to yourself, "Rather than be like the guy that came proper out of the gate and had an easy start, i'm gonna be like the rest of these sources and make it up as i go along?"

Who needs dosage testing when you have baby's first chemistry set (LabMax) right?

Also I have observed things taking a similar course in these threads. Certain members that admittedly never even use ugl gear make a ton of unrealistic demands. (Again not actually potential customers at all.) While others that are actually interested customers are belittled and bullied for asking questions or inquiries. All the while seeming much more about bending to a certain few members whims than any sort of real harm reduction. Especially the demeaning bit about needing to see our wives rack.

Or maybe these unrealistic demands are brought up by guys that don't want to see over eager, unknowledgeable members get fucked by some ametuer home brewer that can't answer questions and thought that coming here without testing was a good idea.

Anyhow I will be doing everything I have promised I would. Testing will be squared away soon. All pharm products are about 2 weeks out, they will be added to the list as they come in.(Pictures included) Aside from the testing which I can’t really speed up, I’m open to ideas. I’d be willing to send some fina to a high ranking member. He can verify it’s potency for the board. All out in the open.

Once again for you to ignore as you did the first time. How can you stock pharma meds when you're so broke that you couldn't afford testing?

Shouldn't testing be higher on your priority list? Of course not. You're just here to make some quick sales and will worry about testing after you've recouped some of your losses.

Additionally @BigBaldBeardGuy im not making any such claim about the fina. I’ve received multiple emails and have said something pretty similar to what you have. That tren is just tren. In my experience and in the experience of those who have tried it, it has just seemed stronger or better in some way. Similar to a tren hex.

It's called placebo effect. That or you fucked up and overdosed the pellet brew. Seeing the shit show you've brought us thus far, i'm betting it's a combination of the two.
 
This mother fucker sounds just like all the other FAILED sources that try to con their way in here. Blaming all the “bully” members for all of their SHORTCOMINGS!

@Atlantic Labs just fuckin leave now and stop putting off the inevitable. You won’t make it here. You don’t have the skill set to do so. Your decision making skills are horrible!
You want to run shit how you want and not how potential customers want. All we ask for is a safe procedure in every aspect. You want it your way but we’ll just see how that works out for you...o_O

You are definitely a confirmed dumbass!! Without a doubt, one of the elite ones too.
You are correct about one thing though and that’s the fact that the members here “bullying” you won’t be ordering from you!

It’s not because we want you to fail, because clearly you need no help in that department, it’s because you are a HUGE RISK and RED FLAGS surround your operation.

These ‘non buying members’ can see this and is why they’re not going to be a customer of yours and they care enough for our community here to help bring to light all your flaws and bullshit! o_O

Oh, show me your wife’s boobs :oops:
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Does anyone else notice the trend here as of late? i'm talking about these fly by night sources that post pics of unlabeled vials.

OPSEC my ass. This joker and some of the more recent failures that have passed through here have been here before under different lab names.

They failed, then rebranded and now realize there's a very good possibility that they'll fail again, so they only label the few vials that they actually sell.

Then when they do ultimately fail again, they can rebrand faster and easier without having to peel off a couple hundred labels first.

Tiny Red, is this another one of your half hearted attempts at sourcing? You're failing miserably again. You make BigBear look like a professional and he uses syringe filters!
 
Does anyone else notice the trend here as of late? i'm talking about these fly by night sources that post pics of unlabeled vials.

OPSEC my ass. This joker and some of the more recent failures that have passed through here have been here before under different lab names.

They failed, then rebranded and now realize there's a very good possibility that they'll fail again, so they only label the few vials that they actually sell.

Then when they do ultimately fail again, they can rebrand faster and easier without having to peel off a couple hundred labels first.

Tiny Red, is this another one of your half hearted attempts at sourcing? You're failing miserably again. You make BigBear look like a professional and he uses syringe filters!
Yeah bro I’ve noticed that shit as well. I’ve said it many times but it doesn’t seem to sink in... anyone can brew but not just anyone can be a source. It’s two separate things imo.

But didn’t you hear man, @Atlantic Labs has been doing some reading around and knows how to source now! :rolleyes:

To your point though, those vials not being labeled are obvious an outlet for them to be able to rebrand easily just by opening a new “source thread”.
They seem to fail just the same way Atlantic will... :oops:
 
I’m not disagreeing with any of you. I was simply pointing out some observations that seem to indicate there is more than one recipe for success.

I wasn’t lying about being stretched thin. I’m borrowing cash to get testing and pharma products are all getting sent with the promise to pay latter. Tgi and even sym admitted they were short on cash at first. It was a very difficult decision to put myself in debt when there is absolutely no indication that even after testing comes back that members will back down. But regardless I am making that happen.

Again everyone who responded here has openly admitted on this forum that they do not purchase ugl gear. I’m in no way saying that they don’t merit an opinion. However it still remains a fact that the things they are asking for are not the asks of legitimate customers.

@BigBaldBeardGuy i may actually take you up on that and dig through to quote some members. It maybe difficult to observe because it may not be directed at an individual; but I constantly see remarks like “anyone who orders from this shitshow deserves to be scammed.” Comments like these make it difficult for members who are interested in that source; and may even keep them from reporting back if they are scammed or if things go bad. Even senior members get shit on when they deviate from the system that a select few have put in place. That doesn’t really seem like an environment where I’d feel comfortable seeking information or asking questions.
 
I’m not disagreeing with any of you. I was simply pointing out some observations that seem to indicate there is more than one recipe for success.

I wasn’t lying about being stretched thin. I’m borrowing cash to get testing and pharma products are all getting sent with the promise to pay latter. Tgi and even sym admitted they were short on cash at first. It was a very difficult decision to put myself in debt when there is absolutely no indication that even after testing comes back that members will back down. But regardless I am making that happen.

Again everyone who responded here has openly admitted on this forum that they do not purchase ugl gear. I’m in no way saying that they don’t merit an opinion. However it still remains a fact that the things they are asking for are not the asks of legitimate customers.

@BigBaldBeardGuy i may actually take you up on that and dig through to quote some members. It maybe difficult to observe because it may not be directed at an individual; but I constantly see remarks like “anyone who orders from this shitshow deserves to be scammed.” Comments like these make it difficult for members who are interested in that source; and may even keep them from reporting back if they are scammed or if things go bad. Even senior members get shit on when they deviate from the system that a select few have put in place. That doesn’t really seem like an environment where I’d feel comfortable seeking information or asking questions.
You just don’t get it! I clearly said I wouldn’t order from you because of the risks surrounding your operation!
I most definitely order from ugl’s. My last orders were from Stan and Syms dumbass! Why’d I go with them instead of you? Um because of their operation and how much more safe I feel using them.
Stop putting words in our mouths that we didn’t say! Seeing what a dumbass you are I’ll do my best to make it more clear to you...

AT THIS TIME YOU ARE TOO MUCH OF A RISK TO ORDER FROM. YOUR OPERATION IS SEVERELY FLAWED. YOU COME IN UNPREPARED TWICE! SO HELL NO I WON’T ORDER FROM YOU BECAUSE THE OTHER OPTIONS HERE ARE WAY BETTER THAN YOU. YOU DON’T HAVE THE WORK ETHIC OF THOSE OTHER TWO DOMESTIC SOURCES AND YOU COME OFF AS A DUMBASS BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE FOR YOU NOT BEING PREPARED HERE!
UNDERSTAND NOW DUMBASS!? o_O
 
I’m not disagreeing with any of you. I was simply pointing out some observations that seem to indicate there is more than one recipe for success.

So you chose the recipe that requires the least amount of up front effort. That's reassuring.

I wasn’t lying about being stretched thin. I’m borrowing cash to get testing and pharma products are all getting sent with the promise to pay latter. Tgi and even sym admitted they were short on cash at first. It was a very difficult decision to put myself in debt when there is absolutely no indication that even after testing comes back that members will back down. But regardless I am making that happen.

You're in the red, eh? Just as i suspected. What's going to happen if you fail? Rebrand? Exit scam?

Again everyone who responded here has openly admitted on this forum that they do not purchase ugl gear. I’m in no way saying that they don’t merit an opinion. However it still remains a fact that the things they are asking for are not the asks of legitimate customers.

In other words you won't be posting pics of your setup because "legitimate customers" don't care about sterility or having reassurance that you have some idea as to what you're doing. That's insulting.

@BigBaldBeardGuy i may actually take you up on that and dig through to quote some members. It maybe difficult to observe because it may not be directed at an individual; but I constantly see remarks like “anyone who orders from this shitshow deserves to be scammed.” Comments like these make it difficult for members who are interested in that source; and may even keep them from reporting back if they are scammed or if things go bad. Even senior members get shit on when they deviate from the system that a select few have put in place. That doesn’t really seem like an environment where I’d feel comfortable seeking information or asking questions.

You're using fucking LabMax to test your gear. Yes, it would be stupid for someone to order from such an ametuer operation when we have several much better, more competent sources here.

Would you like me to compile a list of them for you? i'd be more than glad to help those that have done right by the members here.

You know, the more you talk, the worse you sound. Why don't you go to BoP where no one will ever question your ability to turn out a sterile product? Oh, that's right, you're broke and borrowing money to fulfill basic requirements.

Man, you are seriously bad at this!
 
I’m not disagreeing with any of you. I was simply pointing out some observations that seem to indicate there is more than one recipe for success.

I wasn’t lying about being stretched thin. I’m borrowing cash to get testing and pharma products are all getting sent with the promise to pay latter. Tgi and even sym admitted they were short on cash at first. It was a very difficult decision to put myself in debt when there is absolutely no indication that even after testing comes back that members will back down. But regardless I am making that happen.

Again everyone who responded here has openly admitted on this forum that they do not purchase ugl gear. I’m in no way saying that they don’t merit an opinion. However it still remains a fact that the things they are asking for are not the asks of legitimate customers.

@BigBaldBeardGuy i may actually take you up on that and dig through to quote some members. It maybe difficult to observe because it may not be directed at an individual; but I constantly see remarks like “anyone who orders from this shitshow deserves to be scammed.” Comments like these make it difficult for members who are interested in that source; and may even keep them from reporting back if they are scammed or if things go bad. Even senior members get shit on when they deviate from the system that a select few have put in place. That doesn’t really seem like an environment where I’d feel comfortable seeking information or asking questions.

Ready then???

Anyone that orders from this shit show is taking a risk.

Why? Hmmmmm let me guess here.

The only pictures you provided were of about 20 or so unlabeled vials, some kinda clear and some kinda yellowish.

That’s literally ALL you did to provide proof that you are legitimate. [emoji2369] Would you order from you??? Or would you scroll up to SymBiotics thread where there’s product testing, lots of great photos, and oh, CUSTOMERS.

I’ll repeat, ITS YOUR JOB TO SELL YOURSELF HERE.

There are no set requirements really, you are the salesman, what are you selling? Is it any good? Will it work? Show us.

Quit bellyaching. Did you even reach out and contact a lab for testing. I can go ask Jano if you want. I already know the answer.

Here’s one I say to my kids “Quit coming to me with problems and excuses and come to me with SOLUTIONS.” It’s easy enough for a kid to understand, so how about you?

And fuck dude, I’m not a customer because I don’t even do steroids. They’re bad for you, illegal, and addictive, and I don’t want to go to rehabs. Ben Affleck did an after school special once and I don’t want that to be me. Fuck, there, that’s twice I’ve had to admit it today.
 
This thread is FUBAR.

I wouldn't buy from you now even if you did get testing man. Did you really think the fucking Roidtest kit was gonna check the box for testing? Unbelievable.
 
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