Back from a break - Motivated - Experiment Cycle

[themanhart]

hello. I'm J.

210 pounds
5ft. 10
28 of age
fat%: yes

ive done several cycles and been training for the past 7 years. had a few bumps on the road lately, but I feel like getting back to "it" again. Usually I stick to classic cycles for an example; 1-12 500mg Test E & 300mg Deca, 1-6 30mg Dbol, However this time i've been looking into switching up compounds during cycle (to confuse the body, right babe? - RIP rich), and this is mainly the reason why I feel like sharing it to the public here for u on meso. Back in the days I've had the mentality that "if I did this dose last time, I gotta to double the next for it to work" but now I feel a bit more educated, so please feel free to mention your opinion on my dosages. This is what my thoughts have come to on paper:
Im sorry if its confusing for some but I had to do it this way for it to look decent. Adex administered e3d or how I feel.

WEEK	MP TEST-E EW	AP DECA EW	AP TREN-E EW	MP MAST P EW	MP EQ EW	AP OXY ED	MP NPP
01	500mg	250mg	000mg	300mg	000mg	50mg	000mg
02	500mg	250mg	000mg	300mg	000mg	50mg	000mg
03	500mg	250mg	000mg	300mg	000mg	50mg	000mg
04	500mg	250mg	000mg	300mg	000mg	00mg	000mg
05	500mg	500mg	000mg	300mg	000mg	00mg	000mg
06	500mg	500mg	000mg	300mg	000mg	00mg	000mg
07	500mg	500mg	000mg	300mg	000mg	00mg	000mg
08	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	500mg	00mg	000mg
09	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	500mg	00mg	000mg

WEEK	MP TEST-E EW	AP DECA EW	AP TREN-E EW	MP MAST P EW	MP EQ EW	AP OXY ED	MP NPP
10	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	500mg	00mg	000mg
11	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	500mg	00mg	000mg
12	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	500mg	00mg	000mg
13	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	500mg	00mg	000mg
14	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	500mg	00mg	000mg
15	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	000mg	00mg	400mg
16	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	000mg	50mg	400mg
17	500mg	000mg	500mg	000mg	000mg	50mg	400mg
18	500mg	000mg	000mg	000mg	000mg	50mg	400mg

 

[jJjburton]

This is a jumbled mess, not the layout but the cycle itself. 7 weeks of deca, is not a good start. Especially going from 250-500. Pick a dose and stay on it. Like 300-400 mg for 10 weeks. Deca takes 6 weeks to fully kick in.

And you have npp at the end which is ok. But why?
Holy co

this also goes for EQ. You are running it way to short.

keep it simple.

way to much mixing and matching.

 

[jJjburton]

Why so many compounds, also what made you get long esters but not enough of them to be effective?

 

[jJjburton]

Just run test and tren. With anadrol this will get you the best results. Save deca and EQ for another time.

you need to do some more research.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

If you’re fat spend some time leaning down and getting your diet under control.

I don’t even want to comment on your cycle. That’s over-complicated for someone that’s just getting back to it. Pros switch compounds around because they’re on a permacycle. Drop half of the crap that you have in there because it just doesn’t make sense.

Are you PCT-ing or going to cruise/TRT dose at the end.

None of that is intended to make you feel bad either. Good job getting your life back on track. I’m not gonna kick you while you’re getting up. Be successful with all you do. That cycle isn’t what you need. If I was you, I’d consider a real simple cycle, even something as easy as 500 mg/wk Test. It’ll have less sides, less stress on the body, and allow you to focus on getting back into this lifestyle.

 

[themanhart]

I completely agree with you guys and its very interesting. The long esters for short period of time? Its doesn't make sense.

#4 Im definitely doing research and im very glad i shared this with you guys. The "switching up compounds" isnt my go-to normally, but the idea of confusing and triggering the body in the way got me caught up for a while. Its topic thats been on youtube for a while.

I even once had a coach a few years back (payed) telling me what he did with orals was switching compound every week to keep the receptors popping. The same he did with injectables, just every 5-6 weeks even with the longer esters

#5 Am i a pct or trt guy answer is trt
#5 Hehe not "Fat" fat, i do have muscle definition and veins popping. Id like to trim off a bit for sure.

 

[theprodgicalson]

1-12 test e 500
1-6 NPP 400
7-12 tren a 400

If wanted add
1-12 Mast e 400
9-12 Adrol 50