Bake or not?

[wanted]

I've read that many say that you shouldn't bake your steroids and I wonder why?

 

[Holl]

I've read that many say that you shouldn't bake your steroids and I wonder why?

Heat can damage the hormone and filtering with a .02 um filter is what will guarantee your sterile product.

Baking is a relic from the past and I think misunderstood. An autoclave uses high pressure saturated steam to sterilize and can kill spores of the bacterium Clostridium botulinium for example in 5 minutes at 121°C, where an oven would require 2 hours at 160°C

 

[MANWHORE]

Damage the hormone

I used to bake, now I boil in a small pot with water..

It's faster... You mean after buying already brewed gear?

I only heat it if I need to cut down the mg with new oil

 

[Holl]

Damage the hormone

I used to bake, now I boil in a small pot with water..

It's faster... You mean after buying already brewed gear?

I only heat it if I need to cut down the mg with new oil

I think that prolonged heat exposure can degradate the hormone, and we are talking about baking a vial at a high temperature for an extended period of time that may not even sterilize it, so why risk it when you can just filter it.

You are talking about raising the temperature in a water bath for a short time to aid in hormone suspension and or easier filtering. That is very different IMO than baking.

 

[wanted]

No, friends I mean to put it in an oven when making the gear. And not in a high temperature at all. But then I get to understand why they say not bake cause they talk about trying to sterilize the gear. Simply talking about different things

 

[calfcramp]

I'll bake if I'm working with winny. I sometimes will if I have crashed gear. Most hormones don't require high temperatures so typically, when brewing, I use an oil bath or a flame with a thermometer. That's the easiest way for me to regulate my heat.

 

[MANWHORE]

No, friends I mean to put it in an oven when making the gear.

Yea, then just put the beaker in warm or cold
water, in a pot and start the heat...on the stove... You won't need it boiling.. It
falls right together after mixing every now and then with your glass mixer or whatever you use..

The filter and BA will sterilize it .. even if a staff spore got in it, after .45 filtering
.5% BA would take care of it, within days.. I think Upjohn did that study
because they only use .5 BA.. I used 1% BA and 22% BB

 

[calfcramp]

Yea, then just put the beaker in warm or cold
water, in a pot and start the heat...on the stove... You won't need it boiling.. It
falls right together after mixing every now and then with your glass mixer or whatever you use..

The filter and BA will sterilize it .. even if a staff spore got in it, after .45 filtering
.5% BA would take care of it, within days.. I think Upjohn did that study
because they only use .5 BA.. I used 1% BA and 22% BB

You've never had a problem w/ moisture in your batches?

 

[MANWHORE]

You've never had a problem w/ moisture in your batches?

Moisture from what? The heated water?

No.. My stuff was not only clean but potent..

I had 100mg Test P, Tren A, Mast P PER ML 3 bottles of it.. I bought it brewed..
They hurt like a bitch, so I bought new vials from Cem, with cottonseed oil
some filters and 18g pins, and did all of this cutting and heating the
same way... Only inside the vials instead of in a beaker.. Pin in top for pressure..

It takes longer for me to make Ramen Noodles then it does to brew

 

[calfcramp]

Moisture from what? The heated water?

No.. My stuff was not only clean but potent..

I had 100mg Test P, Tren A, Mast P PER ML 3 bottles of it.. I bought it brewed..
They hurt like a bitch, so I bought new vials from Cem, with cottonseed oil
some filters and 18g pins, and did all of this cutting and heating the
same way... Only inside the vials instead of in a beaker.. Pin in top for pressure..

It takes longer for me to make Ramen Noodles then it does to brew

I know. I have a crab cream sauce fettuccine w/ steamed shell fish that takes a ton of time and attention. Every time I make a batch I think of that and how easy brewing is. Hahaha. I have had some issues w/ oil winny and I'm about to tackle some new blends. We'll see how all that works out.

 

[jack729]

Baking is old school. I do know if toy do heat it up too much that soft rubber stopper can get a little too hot. So be careful. Proper filtering and BA should be sufficent.

 

[wanted]

If one make the gear in the oven in a media bottle and then take it out and put on the screw cork on it, then it must create moisture in the bottle. Or am I wrong?

 

[beedix]

I don't bake. I do warm the solution as I combine before filtering.

I've seen nothing scientific that indicates heat destroying what is very stable chemicals. Sounds like bro science. I'd stay under melting points, but honestly I'm not buying potency change or similar due to baking. Tren is the only unstable compound that there might be some changes due to heat. Any science to back the "no bake" theory?

 

[beedix]

If one make the gear in the oven in a media bottle and then take it out and put on the screw cork on it, then it must create moisture in the bottle. Or am I wrong?

Why make it in the oven? A frying pan with oil to warm the media bottle would be sufficient.

Unless this is a water based, your not going to get conversion to steam aka moisture in the media bottle. With the top on, you might get some pressure change...if you can vent the bottle, it would protect it.