Balkan Pharma Enandrol - HPLC/TAMC/TYMC - 2019-10 - SIMEC via AnabolicLab.com

[AnabolicLab.com]

Sir, I assure you that Balkan Pharma representatives contacted either AnabolicLab , SIMEC or maybe both to make clear what happened , so maybe your source is not very reliable.

AnabolicLab received a PM from you on February 2, 2020. This is the only message we have received.

I do not know if SIMEC was contacted by any Balkan Pharma reps.

The product was purchased anonymously from Ashop.club.

We will continue to anonymously test Balkan Pharma products in the future.

If Balkan Pharma requires any further information from SIMEC, we can authorize data sharing.

 

[Mcflyfast]

AnabolicLab received a PM from you on February 2, 2020. This is the only message we have received.

I do not know if SIMEC was contacted by any Balkan Pharma reps.

The product was purchased anonymously from Ashop.club.

We will continue to anonymously test Balkan Pharma products in the future.

If Balkan Pharma requires any further information from SIMEC, we can authorize data sharing.

So @AnabolicLab.com @Millard Baker can they send out to retest the same batch again? @ashop.club feels 100% confident that it was a mistake on Simec part. So far we have @janoshik and @ashop.club lab analysis of this batch showing pretty much same numbers but this one is underdosed off by 44mgs.

 

[deddmoneydave]

Has Balkan confirmed the product was authentic?

 

[Millard]

So @AnabolicLab.com @Millard Baker can they send out to retest the same batch again? @ashop.club feels 100% confident that it was a mistake on Simec part. So far we have @janoshik and @ashop.club lab analysis of this batch showing pretty much same numbers but this one is underdosed off by 44mgs.

The chances of anonymously and secretly obtaining a sample of the same batch for retesting are low. This can not be guaranteed by AnabolicLab.

So unless SIMEC has stored unused ampules submitted by AnabolicLab, this will not be possible.

 

[AnabolicLab.com]

Has Balkan confirmed the product was authentic?

The products were purchased from Ashop.club. The 5 ampules submitted to SIMEC were all authenticated on the Balkan Pharma website at b-p.md:

 

[cadafi]

I still have several amps from that lot with the same batch number and exp date, maybe sending them to LAB4TOX (neutral ground) if it´s indeed simec´s mess i would stop sending anything to them for testing, they´ll end up putting anaboliclab´s credibility at jeopardy
Since exp date is untill 2023 i might end up sending them to lab4tox if no further elaboration is conducted on this matter, but i still have a lot of cipandrol and test E 10 ml vials for my TRT so it would take a while.

 

[ashop]

I said that the Balkan Pharma representatives (bu this I meant Balkan Pharmaceuticals administration)contacted SIMEC or Anabolic Lab or maybe both through an official letter, not ashop.club, because we do not have the legal right to do that. At the moment we will be able, we will post the proof that you were contacted, and at this moment have not yet responded.

AnabolicLab received a PM from you on February 2, 2020. This is the only message we have received.

I do not know if SIMEC was contacted by any Balkan Pharma reps.

The product was purchased anonymously from Ashop.club.

We will continue to anonymously test Balkan Pharma products in the future.

If Balkan Pharma requires any further information from SIMEC, we can authorize data sharing.

 

[ashop]

As you all know it is not the first time they mess up a lab test (i am talking about that situation when anabolic lab had to retract their original post and publish the correction which showed the product was dosed correctly). Balkan Pharm is waiting for a response from these guys and if necessarily, they will send products from that batch to be retested.

So @AnabolicLab.com @Millard Baker can they send out to retest the same batch again? @ashop.club feels 100% confident that it was a mistake on Simec part. So far we have @janoshik and @ashop.club lab analysis of this batch showing pretty much same numbers but this one is underdosed off by 44mgs.

 

[cadafi]

I said that the Balkan Pharma representatives (bu this I meant Balkan Pharmaceuticals administration)contacted SIMEC or Anabolic Lab or maybe both through an official letter, not ashop.club, because we do not have the legal right to do that. At the moment we will be able, we will post the proof that you were contacted, and at this moment have not yet responded.

Yes do that please.

 

[ashop]

I guess you would make us all a big big favour if you could do that.

I still have several amps from that lot with the same batch number and exp date, maybe sending them to LAB4TOX (neutral ground) if it´s indeed simec´s mess i would stop sending anything to them for testing, they´ll end up putting anaboliclab´s credibility at jeopardy
Since exp date is untill 2023 i might end up sending them to lab4tox if no further elaboration is conducted on this matter, but i still have a lot of cipandrol and test E 10 ml vials for my TRT so it would take a while.

 

[ashop]

We will as soon as possible.

Yes do that please.

 

[Mcflyfast]

The products were purchased from Ashop.club. The 5 ampules submitted to SIMEC were all authenticated on the Balkan Pharma website at b-p.md

Can you please talk to Simec asap and have this retested. I really want to get to the bottom of this as I do have a fair share of this batch # in my hands. Also, I want to send you funds as a thankyou and become an Anaboliclab supporter for keeping our community safe by testing these products routinely anonymously.

I still have several amps from that lot with the same batch number and exp date, maybe sending them to LAB4TOX (neutral ground) if it´s indeed simec´s mess i would stop sending anything to them for testing, they´ll end up putting anaboliclab´s credibility at jeopardy
Since exp date is untill 2023 i might end up sending them to lab4tox if no further elaboration is conducted on this matter, but i still have a lot of cipandrol and test E 10 ml vials for my TRT so it would take a while.

Send one out with a couple products that are test e blindly so we can get an accurate reading which is the one that is tested. I will contribute funds for this.

 

[BigCactus]

Lol, Balkan Pharma is as underground as it gets. Tell me which legit pharmaceutical company makes stealth gear? Which legit pharmaceutical company is affiliated with some shady website like ashop...
Exactly, none of them. BP = UGL is overrated. I tried their test-e and was not impressed at all.

 

[Mcflyfast]

@Millard Baker @AnabolicLab.com someone from another forum sent me this by @ashop.club I really don't know how I feel about this. Apparently, he is telling people that this is a mistake completely from Simec and now, that the product tested was not purchased from them. Is there any proof @AnabolicLab.com can provide to the community that this is true or false? This is putting a bad taste in my mouth with @ashop.club

"The Enandrol sent for analysis to AL, are not purchased from us. Our customer who sent the enandrol to AL admitted that he did not buy this product from ashop, but from other shop. We officially declare that we do not recognize the results published by AL regarding the BP Enandrol." -Alice Ashop

Then there is this one too,

"Hello again,

So the error accepted by GMP is 5% and BP works under 5%. There is no way their enanthate is 200 mg. I talked with my connection from inside factory and he told me they contacted SIMEC. For the beginning he did not wanted to share any information, then he said he is in holiday and hes back on last monday. Then he explained briefly how he done the testing but did not sent the mathematics behind everything and chromatograms . From beginning he said he done two injections but minimum is three. They think he is doing only one injection. Guys from BP said normal is that when something does not look right they change the expert doing the analyses and repeat.
Normal SIMEC is doing a cheap analyses and he is okay normally because is hard to find someone who can receive controlled substances by mail for testing. He just must understand that this great bodybuilding community is sending him lots of business so he need to be very good and very correct in his analyses.

So lets not blame SIMEC guy he is useful for our comunity and also we can not blame BP, lets be serious this guys were around for 15 years I think and never disappointed. Dont forget that they are supplying hospitals and winning most of contracts so if something was bunk be sure they would be banned. Imagine that they have competition that watch this closely.

I think the easiest way is for SIMEC to give everyting * mathematics etc * and if they cant find the error he need to repeat the analyses

Dont forget that I was one of the guys who uncovered ANGUS who was claiming he is doing testing and was BS everyone

But with SIMEC is not the same with Angus. SIMEC is doing his test but skipping some parts so is not so expensive and time consuming. But when he have a error he NEED to repeat the test for two times more.
Also doing 2 injections he say but bp guys believe hes doing one is too little.

BP works under EU GMP with EU Pharmacopeeia that have most strict rules in the world stricter than FDA. Dont worry guys BP is to big to steal some powder or to skip any analyse. They keep "witness samples" from each batch and that was retested already and come up correct. So the error is with SIMEC we hope he will be less cocky and more open to work with them we want only CORRECT LAB TEST nothing else. You see our shop is donating money all the time to AL for testing so be sure we are not crazy.

Maybe the only solution is he is retesting because is hard now to understand where he had a mistake if he does not have all documents.

Anyway i will try to obtain a screenshot of discussion from simec and bp and post here

Thank you for your trust, I am around here for too long to bullshit you guys
Ajax"

I really think we should get to the bottom of this asap. Apparently he is putting fault to the guy who works for Simec.

 

[ManK]

Lol, Balkan Pharma is as underground as it gets. Tell me which legit pharmaceutical company makes stealth gear? Which legit pharmaceutical company is affiliated with some shady website like ashop...
Exactly, none of them. BP = UGL is overrated. I tried their test-e and was not impressed at all.

False.
In Their country (Moldova) is an official pharmaceutical that sell pharma grade products in their pharmacy.
Of cours Moldova ins not in UE and don't guarantee same quality process but Balkan is a pharmaceutical in their country.
I have 2 friends that visted their company.
there is also a video of a French newspaper that visited them talking about steroids in UE.
To conclude: i dont see why their Test should you impress...
Test is test and usually is normally dosed also from common ugl because the raw powder is really cheap. The difference could be about contamination not sure about effects or results.
Personally i use their test for TRT purpose since year and using really low dose (80mg weeks) i have optimum TT values and never had any bacterial problem.

 

[kinkos]

Lol, Balkan Pharma is as underground as it gets. Tell me which legit pharmaceutical company makes stealth gear? Which legit pharmaceutical company is affiliated with some shady website like ashop...
Exactly, none of them. BP = UGL is overrated. I tried their test-e and was not impressed at all.

What do you mean you werent impressed? Your test levels were low?

 

[wsw16]

Lol, Balkan Pharma is as underground as it gets. Tell me which legit pharmaceutical company makes stealth gear? Which legit pharmaceutical company is affiliated with some shady website like ashop...
Exactly, none of them. BP = UGL is overrated. I tried their test-e and was not impressed at all.

What a load of dumb fuckery

 

[Millard]

"The Enandrol sent for analysis to AL, are not purchased from us. Our customer who sent the enandrol to AL admitted that he did not buy this product from ashop, but from other shop. We officially declare that we do not recognize the results published by AL regarding the BP Enandrol." -Alice Ashop

This is absolute bullshit ^^

IF @ashop.club really said this, they are not making a good faith effort at investigating the issue.

 

[Millard]

For the beginning he did not wanted to share any information, then he said he is in holiday and hes back on last monday. Then he explained briefly how he done the testing but did not sent the mathematics behind everything and chromatograms

AnabolicLab paid SIMEC for the analyses. AnabolicLab owns the data. SIMEC will not share the information/raw data with any third parties without AnabolicLab's explicit authorization.

If Balkan Pharma wanted to expedite matters, they could have contacted AnabolicLab directly. I have not received any correspondence from them.

Apparently, Balkan Pharma only contacted SIMEC. SIMEC notified me of Balkan Pharma's request for more information on February 7, 2020. AnabolicLab authorized SIMEC to share the data with Balkan Pharma.

 

[BigCactus]

What a load of dumb fuckery

Go suck some balkan pharma dick dude, name me one legit pharma company who deals with shady websites as their online rep?
I don't give a fuck that they are legit in moldova some 6th world country. Anyone with money can get a license there. That doesn't make it less ugl...

Plus the biggest red flag is that they sell tren/parabolan. Which absolutely no doctor would ever prescribe anyone.

So think before you decide to post some dumbass reply oke buddy?