Balkan vs Bayer primo

[Moregains90]

Anyone try either? Which do you prefer?

 

[Jerry5000]

Bayer

 

[MadBret]

I would choose Bayer if given the choice though both should be quality if authentic.

 

[Grozny]

U can't compare some serious US pharma house like Bayer VS some Moldova or Bangladesh pharma manufacturer like Balkan, big differences.

 

[Youngrobert1]

U can't compare some serious US pharma house like Bayer VS some Moldova or Bangladesh pharma manufacturer like Balkan, big differences.

Exactly. Bayer is the real primo. I dont have money like that nor like such a high volume of oil so I personally use ugl primo e 200. But Bayer is the authentic strictly regulated primobolan

 

[wildfuchs]

Exactly. Bayer is the real primo. I dont have money like that nor like such a high volume of oil so I personally use ugl primo e 200. But Bayer is the authentic strictly regulated primobolan

that doesnt necessarily constitute a difference in product quality vs any ugl. I've bayer primo around but prefer to use the ugl still because that came back correctly via lab test, and what more could i want

 

[MuscleFreak]

Bayer 100Mg eod gives me better look to thee muscle then ugl 200mg eod

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Bayer 100Mg eod gives me better look to thee muscle then ugl 200mg eod

Because pharma uses magic raws?
Same shit, bro. Your 200 mg/ml is either underdosed or bunk or you're giving into placebo effect.

 

[MuscleFreak]

Because pharma uses magic raws?
Same shit, bro. Your 200 mg/ml is either underdosed or bunk or you're giving into placebo effect.

Nope,using it over 6 years...and i love some placebo Always mmmm

 

[Avnj5]

Only take Bayer if u get it in original boxes with ITS Mobil code. Amd they just all have different serial. Legit Balkan is always good option in my opinion as well and easier to authenticate. Alpha pharma also.

 

[TNotch347]

Real Bayer primo has a consistency of honey, it’s thick. Always the tell tale sign.

 

[Grozny]

Bayer is made under strict US GMP and FDA standard. Its a big difference vs some Balkan Pharma house like in Moldova where everthing is bribed like licenses, quality control.

 

[Grozny]

Only take Bayer if u get it in original boxes with ITS Mobil code. Amd they just all have different serial. Legit Balkan is always good option in my opinion as well and easier to authenticate. Alpha pharma also.

True !!

 

[Tmisatix]

Bayer 100Mg eod gives me better look to thee muscle then ugl 200mg eod

I 100% believe this. I've heard this about running vet grade eq. Less dose, better gains and none of the strange eq side effects

 

[Tmisatix]

Because pharma uses magic raws?
Same shit, bro. Your 200 mg/ml is either underdosed or bunk or you're giving into placebo effect.

But pharmaceutical companies are getting their raws from pharmaceutical manufacturers where it's made and regulated in a factory with pharma standards.

primo and other aas , especially the rare ones with various esters, aren't even produced in the medical field anymore?

What if some of these compounds are being made as clones or extremely close analogues to where they show positive on a test as the given compound, but they're not the EXACT compound?

Other issues could be impurities

Most of the members won't risk going without pharma AI. No secret there right?

This may sound stupid , but it's China we're dealing with lol

This is all theory. There's good ones , but you always wonder

 

[MisterSuperGod]

But pharmaceutical companies are getting their raws from pharmaceutical manufacturers where it's made and regulated in a factory with pharma standards.

True. Though let's say pharma has 99% pure raws and Balkan (for example) has 95% pure raws. Compensating for that difference in purity means that both products would be dosed the same in the end if done properly.

primo and other aas , especially the rare ones with various esters, aren't even produced in the medical field anymore?

Primo Enanthate is still produced, obviously, but many others are not. Without a true underground movement for AAS, choices would be extremely limited.

What if some of these compounds are being made as clones or extremely close analogues to where they show positive on a test as the given compound, but they're not the EXACT compound?

That is a good question and i would think that @janoshik would be able to answer that.

Other issues could be impurities

Which is why some raws test more pure than others. That's what i'm referring to in the first quote.

Most of the members won't risk going without pharma AI. No secret there right?

That's more so because many UGL's don't have the slightest idea of how to properly mix their oral raws and fillers, resulting in improperly dosed capsules/tablets.

Add to that that many sources don't test their raws either, which can be disastrous for the customer if the source didn't receive the proper raw materials.

This may sound stupid , but it's China we're dealing with lol

That's why testing is so important. Again though, without China, our choices would be extremely limited.

This is all theory. There's good ones , but you always wonder

i do like the theory, though i'm hoping Jano can shed more light on it.

 

[Tmisatix]

True. Though let's say pharma has 99% pure raws and Balkan (for example) has 95% pure raws. Compensating for that difference in purity means that both products would be dosed the same in the end if done properly.



Primo Enanthate is still produced, obviously, but many others are not. Without a true underground movement for AAS, choices would be extremely limited.



That is a good question and i would think that @janoshik would be able to answer that.



Which is why some raws test more pure than others. That's what i'm referring to in the first quote.



That's more so because many UGL's don't have the slightest idea of how to properly mix their oral raws and fillers, resulting in improperly dosed capsules/tablets.

Add to that that many sources don't test their raws either, which can be disastrous for the customer if the source didn't receive the proper raw materials.



That's why testing is so important. Again though, without China, our choices would be extremely limited.



i do like the theory, though i'm hoping Jano can shed more light on it.

Okay, true and I do believe balkan has some pharmaceutical standards? I'd trust them over most too. On their official website , they even produce other medications.

Did not know primo was still being produced, but this is the E ester. Again I wonder about the others.

Testing is 100% important hence why I believe the accountability we push for that needs to remain.

And about AI, that is true lmao. A simple 1000 g divided by the amount of ml is simple to me but others lose their mind. Capsulating seems tricky, though.

Hopefully Janosik can chime in.

Thanks brother

 

[b4tm4n]

Exactly. Bayer is the real primo. I dont have money like that nor like such a high volume of oil so I personally use ugl primo e 200. But Bayer is the authentic strictly regulated primobolan

Which ugl primo are you using? Thanks

 

[janoshik]

What if some of these compounds are being made as clones or extremely close analogues to where they show positive on a test as the given compound, but they're not the EXACT compound?

Absolutely not. One bond difference and all sorts of fucked up stuff that is extremely obvious happens.

Retention time shifts, UV spectrum shift, mass spectrum shift...

Frankly, I'd probably opt to go with Balkan, or any other reputable tested UGL with verification features (not you, IA), simply because Bayer Rimobolans are one of the most faked amps on the market. I've tested dozens of those.

 

[janoshik]

Real Bayer primo has a consistency of honey, it’s thick. Always the tell tale sign.

Yes! Many fakes and originals had major difference in the viscosity ("thickness"). However, many fakes had +- the same too.