BB Melting Plastic ahhhhhhhh!

test90

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Can anyone tell me if
90ml benzyl benzoate & 10ml benzyl alcohol in 500ml of liquid total
can melt plastic or how quick.

I understand if BB (concentrate) was held in a plastic cup for a few hours it will disolve,
i am guessing that 90ml/500ml will slow the process considerably. Im still waiting for my fu**ing bottle top filter and could be waiting for another 7 days. The liquid has been in the container for about 7 days
 

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It would take about 6-8 months to melt through the plastic considering its 1 part Benzyl 3 parts gso
 
Keep in mind that you are going to get impurities in your liquid from the plastic. Not saying it is lethal, just saying I wouldn't want to have it in my body!

I know you are going to filter it but still, is the molecules of the "homebrew" the only thing that goes through the filter?
 
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No, the filter would not stop dissolved materials from plastic.

How much there might be, I can't say.

If planning to use this anyway, why not transfer to glass containers while continuing to wait? Or failing that, at least freeze this to slow any further transfer of material from the plastic to your preparation.

Personally I doubt I would use it at all, haven't really thought about it though. I would check to see if it's a type of plastic that may contain bisphenol-A. If it is, then I'd definitely not use it, personally.
 
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The plastic containers are made of polyethylene terephthalate or ( PET ) same as drinks bottles etc.

Basically done a lot of looking around summarized as follows:
When PET degrades several things happen : discolouration, fish eye formation, formation of acetaldehyde (bad)- fruity smell.
Well i put the tren in a 1000ml beaker & the other 2 containers of prop in the freezer.
Well the containers smell 'fruity' or strikingly similar to a blue cube - found in urinals.
Leaves me to a conclusion of wherther or not 2 weeks with 90ml BB & 10ml BA in a 500ml gso solution would be enough time to degrade the plastic.
The MSDS on BB states " possibly hazardous short term degradation products are not likely, however long term degradation products may arise"
I appreciate any ideas or advice bill and guys but ive spent about 740 $ and ready to cry if i must throw it out. Its 1am and il have to see how it goes in the coming days
 
I would not use it at all... you have to be so careful about things like this. ALWAYS use glass containers when dealing with BB and BA. Not using glass containers or vials is as careless as reusing needles because you don't want to buy more.
 
Il have to see what my guy in China says, im sure im not the only one out there that got it shipped in plastic
 
I have done even more research.. basically summarised as follows (anywhere i say PET refers to PolyEthylene Therephthalate, polyester used for packaging material. (PET 1) All of the literature applies to the use of the PET in the storage or holding of foods and liquids for human consumption. (The holding of chemicals is refered to in the latter.)

NAPCOR COMMENTS ON THE SAFETY OF THE PET PLASTIC CONTAINER;
Basically states; "PET resin does not contain Bisphenol-A (BPA) nor is BPA used in the manufacture of PET resin. PET resin is classified as a terephthalate compound and is safe for use in food and beverage containers. PET is not associated with orthophthalates or “plasticizers,” a different phthalate subset."
http://www.constar.net/pdf/PET Safety 04 08.pdf


Frequently Asked Questions Relating to PET Plastics ( http://www.petcore.org/faq )
Basically states;
PET does not contain BPA and BPA is not used in PET's manufacture. Factual errors or confusing statements occasionally appear, even n respected publications.

PET and its raw materials are not made from phthalates.
There may be some confusion because the names of the very safe terephthalate and isophthalate sound similar to phthalate, but they are very different compounds.

Considerable research has been conducted with no evidence of danger to reproduction or reproductive development from PET or any of its raw materials. Environmental estrogens are naturally occurring and synthetic compounds that mimic or alter the normal process of the female hormone oestrogen. They have recently received a lot of attention because some questionable studies, which have not been replicated in subsequent studies, suggested that even low doses can cause harm.
These compounds are found in naturally occurring and possibly man-made chemicals that are present in our air, water, soil, food, and the household products we use. PET is not made from these materials.
The research to date does not show harmful effects in people or wildlife, and no government agency has accepted the possibility of harm from low levels of exposure. Exposure to doses that might be associated with adverse effects is not found in our daily lives.


Plastics & Chemical Resistance states;
Benzyl Alcohol pure (liquid) 3 = PET exhibits poor resistance to attack; should not be considered for this application.
Benzyl Benzoate pure (liquid)2 = PET has marginal resistance to attack; significant chance of container failure.
http://www.plasticseurope.org/Documents/Document/20100301162055-050303GeneralChemicalResistanceofPET-20050303-003-EN-v1.pdf
My interperatation is that PET plastics are not suitable for holding either of the above (it refers to PURE)



Wikipedia ( [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene_terephthalate]Polyethylene terephthalate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] )
Polyethylene terephthalate;

Depending on its processing and thermal history, polyethylene terephthalate may exist both as an amorphous (transparent) and as a semi-crystalline polymer. The semicrystalline material might appear transparent (particle size < 500 nm) or opaque and white (particle size up to a few microns) depending on its crystal structure and particle size. Its monomer (bis-?-hydroxyterephthalate) can be synthesized by the esterification reaction between terephthalic acid and ethylene glycol with water as a byproduct, or by transesterification reaction between ethylene glycol and dimethyl terephthalate with methanol as a byproduct. Polymerization is through a polycondensation reaction of the monomers (done immediately after esterification/transesterification) with water as the byproduct.


OVERALL SUMMARY

The BB & BA total of 100ml "dilouted" with gso in solution of 500ml would unlikely degrade in 14 days in the PET 1 container(s). In the event of any miniscule amount of corrosion should not be harmful in comparison to other plastics containing harmful metabolites.

At the moment I am considering trying the preparations. I have to look more in depth at;
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene_terephthalate]Polyethylene terephthalate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
its very difficult to disect..
Any opinions? Bill, Millard, guys?
 
There is going to be many opinions on this. Too many and that is the problem. The amount that is in your gear is questionable. Is it a lot? Maybe. Is there a chemical in there that may have been produced as a bi-product of BB and PET that may be life threatening? Maybe. Is it a trivial amount that may have no effect on you at all? Maybe. Unless you find a study or experiment where they use the same concentrate BB in a PET and they are measuring the contaminants(and identifying them), you probably won't know for sure.

There are too many question marks and it is a gamble if you use the gear or decide to turn the revolver on some unknowing fellow.
 
Na, il use it anyway. PET1 is only bad when holding liquid for long periods, and it has a good resistance to chemicals.. So bring it
 
If the containers have a smell to them now that was not there before, then a chemical change occurred.

It doesn't follow to me that given the PET has only marginal resistance to BB that nearly 20% solution for weeks would be okay; or given that PET has poor resistance to BA that perhaps 2-5% for weeks would be okay.

At least there isn't BPA, but almost certainly something will be injected that you weren't intending to inject, and for me it would be guesswork as it whether it is necessarily harmless or not. Personally I would not.
 
If the containers have a smell to them now that was not there before, then a chemical change occurred.

It doesn't follow to me that given the PET has only marginal resistance to BB that nearly 20% solution for weeks would be okay; or given that PET has poor resistance to BA that perhaps 2-5% for weeks would be okay.

At least there isn't BPA, but almost certainly something will be injected that you weren't intending to inject, and for me it would be guesswork as it whether it is necessarily harmless or not. Personally I would not.

I agree
 
I left 500 ml of 100 grams of testosterone cypionate in a plastic media bottle after filter. It has to go... such waste it has melted have the bottle on the flat side. Not worth the risk . I wish I could knock it out of solution. Guess I'll make testosterone soap for giggles
 
I left 500 ml of 100 grams of testosterone cypionate in a plastic media bottle after filter. It has to go... such waste it has melted have the bottle on the flat side. Not worth the risk . I wish I could knock it out of solution. Guess I'll make testosterone soap for giggles
Dude...I didn't even have hair on my dick shaft when this thread was posted. You just bumped a 10 year old thread. All for what? Just to say "hehe hey guys i did sumthin dumb"? Strong first post.
 
Dude...I didn't even have hair on my dick shaft when this thread was posted. You just bumped a 10 year old thread. All for what? Just to say "hehe hey guys i did sumthin dumb"? Strong first post.
Because I can. And doing MULTIPLE searches this is one of few threads that deals with this.

If it bothers you i could care less.

Also please provide pics of said hairless and hairy dic for comparison.
 
So after thinking I believe I can save my brew.

I'm going to flood it with ethanol alcohol hopefully knocking the plastic out of solution. Filter the brew. Then distill or vacuum chamber the ethanol out.
 
I'm going to flood it with ethanol alcohol hopefully knocking the plastic out of solution. Filter the brew. Then distill or vacuum chamber the ethanol out
All for 100g of the cheapest of all raws? What on earth for?
 
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