Beating kids

[notdeadYET]

True regarding church on Sunday. I sometimes don’t write everything out that I’m thinking and forget who I’m talking to. My family lives God first and not just on Sunday. As parents we try to stay present throughout the week and instill those values in the kids.

 

[LeoTC]

Take them into the basement where no one will hear their screams.

Or just talk to them.

If they don't want to work at Hot Topic their entire lives, hating every single person that walks through the door, day dreaming about becoming a mass murder in their spare time and going on frequent bathroom trips to sit on the toilet and cry, then they need to shape up and have the importance of a proper education drilled into them.

Eh.

I work 2 days a week, live comfortably, and I'm a drop-out. Meanwhile I have friends with multiple degrees swimming in debt and on the verge of constant breakdown.

Viable skills over 'proper' education.

That said, invest in a couple stone molds and build a platform. Breaking their backs and tearing the shit out of their arms will get old fast.

A first doesn't need to fly until they decide they're big enough to try and get physical with you. Then you floor them.

 

[Sworder]

Viable skills over 'proper' education.

I agree.

Somebody pushes an agenda that everybody needs a college education. And... student loans are permanent, no bankruptcy will clear those loans.
It's clever.

 

[LeoTC]

I agree.

Somebody pushes an agenda that everybody needs a college education. And... student loans are permanent, no bankruptcy will clear those loans.
It's clever.

And your field is saturated by the time you've got the degree. So you're working in a call center anyway.

 

[Sworder]

And your field is saturated by the time you've got the degree. So you're working in a call center anyway.

Call center or Walmart.

Walmart is a peculiar place.

 

[LeoTC]

Call center or Walmart.

Walmart is a peculiar place.

Its ridiculous.

I've got friends with radiology certifications, nursing, degrees, computer science degrees, medical billing, and all kinds of stuff playing bitch for the Karens of the world.

Kind of on them for putting themselves in the 'retail is the only alternative' box though.

 

[Sworder]

Karens of the world.

Do you have a teenage daughter?

Kind of on them for putting themselves in the 'retail is the only alternative' box though.

Well that's the thing, did they REALLY put themselves there? Or where they very meticulously guided there? That is the real question in my opinion. Did they stand a chance in the first place?*emphasis*

 

[LeoTC]

Do you have a teenage daughter?

Well that's the thing, did they REALLY put themselves there? Or where they very meticulously guided there? That is the real question in my opinion. Did they stand a chance in the first place?*emphasis*

Dude, it's a euphemism for an entitled and overbearing customer.

Don't even start your shit. We've all fucking dealt with them.

 

[Sworder]

Dude, it's a euphemism for an entitled and overbearing customer.

Don't even start your shit. We've all fucking dealt with them.

Don't be mad! Cheers with beers! I don't drink beer but figuratively speaking.

 

[johntt44]

I got spanked maybe once or twice as a kid. Over the knee and spanked. Personally, I've never struck my kids and rarely had to discipline them. Like I said to have to start young to teach them how to act in society. My kids behave better than I do.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

I feel like sharing this may be helpful? Just my own experience as a kid.

Growing up I never had to do homework, had some absuive yet extremely loving parents I also experienced abuse in school from teachers. My family is extremely successful. Upper middle class. But they also drank and took drugs like animals. But I was a wild child. I’d get my ass handed to me by my mom and dad. Like to the point of having black eyes and bruises going to school in kindergarten. I thought it was normal because I’d be hit there too by teachers lol.

Never was taught how to study. Never was taught how to deal with things outside of anger and self abuse. I’ve dealt with depression and 2 legitimate suicide attempts when I was between 18,19 20 years old. And abused drugs since I was 16. I’m 21 now.

Looking back I almost can’t blame my parents because my parents parents beat the fuck out of them and were alcoholics. They fucked up when I was younger.

Growing up I fucking hate school.id do everything I could to cause a disruption and just go against whatever the teachers or school wanted. I gave not a single fuck about my grades or what punishments were dealt. I was also considered to be dumb as a rock.

I’m in college now and absolutely fucking hate it with a burning passion. I know now it’s from my past experiences. I’ve kept a 3.8 gpa and plan on attempting to go to medical school. I did this all on my own and it has been an extreme struggle for me.

Know what I know now, I would have killed for someone to have just sat with me and tried to work with me as a child. I couldn’t imagine the person I would be if someone did take there time with me and understand that I was just a hyper little kid that needed help and just would have explained things to me.

Little kids have unlimited potential and the way you mold there minds is where they will gravitate towards. Just be patient and guide them towards the truth of things.

 

[WolfGain]

Curious to different approaches of correcting young adult behavior.

I have two boys that recently entered into their teenage years, overall well behaved but they have this knack for just not wanting to do or turn in homework. Unfortunately, my job requires me to be gone 3-4 months at a time and frequency varies. This year I’ve been gone 6 months in total (enough for two school quarters). Their grades drop juristically when I’m gone from the 90/80’s to the 70/60’s all because of failure to turn in homework. My poor wife honestly gets ran over when she does her best to balance life and their lives at the home. I will be returning home soon to what is supposed to be a happy time but I honestly want to walk in and just start kicking ass lol.
My normal approach to discipline is hard labor. You waste my time I waste yours which usually ends up in yard work or something of that nature. Seems that they have adapted to this and it’s no longer working.
If you have dealt with a similar situation what are some of the approaches you have taken ? Is lacing the 12oz gloves up and taking them out back no longer a realistic option? Thy are not currently in a sport but I’m thinking that it would greatly benefit them.

"You said we're going to Disney who the hell is Steve Wilkos"???????

 

[rpbb]

I feel like sharing this may be helpful? Just my own experience as a kid.

Growing up I never had to do homework, had some absuive yet extremely loving parents I also experienced abuse in school from teachers. My family is extremely successful. Upper middle class. But they also drank and took drugs like animals. But I was a wild child. I’d get my ass handed to me by my mom and dad. Like to the point of having black eyes and bruises going to school in kindergarten. I thought it was normal because I’d be hit there too by teachers lol.

Never was taught how to study. Never was taught how to deal with things outside of anger and self abuse. I’ve dealt with depression and 2 legitimate suicide attempts when I was between 18,19 20 years old. And abused drugs since I was 16. I’m 21 now.

Looking back I almost can’t blame my parents because my parents parents beat the fuck out of them and were alcoholics. They fucked up when I was younger.

Growing up I fucking hate school.id do everything I could to cause a disruption and just go against whatever the teachers or school wanted. I gave not a single fuck about my grades or what punishments were dealt. I was also considered to be dumb as a rock.

I’m in college now and absolutely fucking hate it with a burning passion. I know now it’s from my past experiences. I’ve kept a 3.8 gpa and plan on attempting to go to medical school. I did this all on my own and it has been an extreme struggle for me.

Know what I know now, I would have killed for someone to have just sat with me and tried to work with me as a child. I couldn’t imagine the person I would be if someone did take there time with me and understand that I was just a hyper little kid that needed help and just would have explained things to me.

Little kids have unlimited potential and the way you mold there minds is where they will gravitate towards. Just be patient and guide them towards the truth of things.

keep doing what youre doing

 

[Sworder]

Looking back I almost can’t blame my parents because my parents parents beat the fuck out of them and were alcoholics. They fucked up when I was younger.

This is typical, it's generation after generation that keeps on adopting the same habits. And nobody is self-reflecting to exclaim "What is going on here?! This needs to STOP."

I have had this conversation with my family members, trust me, it isn't a fun conversation to have. You basically undermine their whole life and telling them they are a piece of sh!t. And it hurts because it is true.

I’m in college now and absolutely fucking hate it with a burning passion. I know now it’s from my past experiences. I’ve kept a 3.8 gpa and plan on attempting to go to medical school. I did this all on my own and it has been an extreme struggle for me.

I would think school is a strong mental block for you. It makes you uncomfortable to the core. It is extremely strong of you to be able to get a 3.8.
I am the same about pulling hair. My mom used to yank the sh!t out of it and then we would stand by the toilet getting rid of the excess.

Know what I know now, I would have killed for someone to have just sat with me and tried to work with me as a child. I couldn’t imagine the person I would be if someone did take there time with me and understand that I was just a hyper little kid that needed help and just would have explained things to me.

So true! Same here man. I don't like looking at childhood photos for that reason, I just see myself as a lonely kid that could have used some support. My mom was solo and abused, she tried. Women and men all need help, it takes more than two people to raise a kid.

Little kids have unlimited potential and the way you mold there minds is where they will gravitate towards. Just be patient and guide them towards the truth of things.

I agree, I think it is all about how you shape your children. The child will do whatever is being reflected from the parent. As a parent it is hard to accept that you are doing something wrong.

That was really powerful post from you!

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

This is typical, it's generation after generation that keeps on adopting the same habits. And nobody is self-reflecting to exclaim "What is going on here?! This needs to STOP."

I have had this conversation with my family members, trust me, it isn't a fun conversation to have. You basically undermine their whole life and telling them they are a piece of sh!t. And it hurts because it is true.



I would think school is a strong mental block for you. It makes you uncomfortable to the core. It is extremely strong of you to be able to get a 3.8.
I am the same about pulling hair. My mom used to yank the sh!t out of it and then we would stand by the toilet getting rid of the excess.




So true! Same here man. I don't like looking at childhood photos for that reason, I just see myself as a lonely kid that could have used some support. My mom was solo and abused, she tried. Women and men all need help, it takes more than two people to raise a kid.



I agree, I think it is all about how you shape your children. The child will do whatever is being reflected from the parent. As a parent it is hard to accept that you are doing something wrong.

That was really powerful post from you!

School FILLS me with anxiety and just an uncomfortable feeling. Sitting in class all day is brutal for me. But I’ve gotten used to it.

My parents hated me when I told them one day. They didn’t want to accept that they were part of the problem so I left and went on my own for a while, while they figured their shit out.

Overall it worked out I suppose? But sad thing is not many people realize this and continue the cycle. I suppose I was lucky to find the insight I did! Psychedelics are a hell of a drug.


Appreciate it. Hope someone takes something from it

 

[Demondosage]

I'm going to give an answer that your e not going to like but it's the truth. You aren't home enough, switch career paths and you'll see an improvement in your kids. Punishment doesn't always work when a parent is there to punish only but not spend time with them.

Easier said than done I know, but they're acting that way and grades are slipping because you ain't around

 

[Sworder]

I'm going to give an answer that your e not going to like but it's the truth.

Demondosage in the house!
That guy is trolling, don't worry. How have you been? Where is the rear lat spread avatar?! I think you had a sick picture of your calves too.

I suppose I was lucky to find the insight I did! Psychedelics are a hell of a drug.

I truly believe there are drugs that help people free their mind. And also the opposite is also true. Drugs that effect seratonin, dopamine, opiates are all drugs that dull the brain. Make you a zombie.

Dissociatives seem to help.

 

[johntt44]

I'm going to give an answer that your e not going to like but it's the truth. You aren't home enough, switch career paths and you'll see an improvement in your kids. Punishment doesn't always work when a parent is there to punish only but not spend time with them.

Easier said than done I know, but they're acting that way and grades are slipping because you ain't around

Good fucking answer!

 

[johntt44]

School FILLS me with anxiety and just an uncomfortable feeling. Sitting in class all day is brutal for me. But I’ve gotten used to it.

My parents hated me when I told them one day. They didn’t want to accept that they were part of the problem so I left and went on my own for a while, while they figured their shit out.

Overall it worked out I suppose? But sad thing is not many people realize this and continue the cycle. I suppose I was lucky to find the insight I did! Psychedelics are a hell of a drug.


Appreciate it. Hope someone takes something from it

Really liked your previous post. Open and honest. I went to 10 schools by the time I graduated high school(My parents, who I loved, had problems). The 2 things I got from that is I'm good at making friends or if you choose, I'll just kick your ass.
The bullies/tough kids always tried me. Id tell them before we fought that their eyes werent going to line up any more. ( I boxed in tornaments) I'm thick skinned and resilient. The fact that you recognize what made you who you are is very perceptive. If you were loved, the rest doesn't matter. My parents did their best and helped me if I needed it.

 

[johntt44]

Its ridiculous.

I've got friends with radiology certifications, nursing, degrees, computer science degrees, medical billing, and all kinds of stuff playing bitch for the Karens of the world.

Kind of on them for putting themselves in the 'retail is the only alternative' box though.

Fuck, tell them to move to Florida! 90% elderly people. You could literally walk into a hospital and get a nursing job.