Best Coach Options

[Frozen]

Hello to the meso brotherhood. I wanted some insight from you guys and if anyone has ever had any experience with good coach’s. If so who, I wanted to start a thread where everyone can share experiences. I’m currently going in to get gyno removed next week. After my recover it’s game time.

I want to get in shape, as I’m taking a tropical vacation in the beginning of the new year which will leave me approximately 6 months to get ready. But that’s besides the fact I don’t want to make this thread about me.

Who here has hired an online/ long distance coach and would recommended others try and work with them. I’ve considers and looked into guys like John meadows, Dave palumbo, Bostin Loyd. There not much for online reviews for coaches though. Some of the meso big dogs chime in as I’m sure a lot of guys would appreciate a good discussion on this.

 

[kastro]

I have worked with three in the early 2000s.Eric broser,Iron addict(rip) and Inhuman(dc) prices were cheap back then.I like Boston he knows his shit and is very honest.Palumbo has so much going on you will probably get a cookie cutter program.Another one that has a lot of success with clients and is very personable is Dom Cardone.

 

[Frozen]

I’m leaning towards bostin because I like his persona, I’d just want to make it clear I don’t want to use certain things which I’m sure any coach would respect. At least I’d hope so

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Most of the “bigger” names will do you fine (well, most, there’s a bunch of cookie cutter bro science bullshit still hanging around older IFBB pros and the like, IE Palumbo).

But do you really need a “top tier” well known coach for your goal? Because you’re going to pay for it if the coaching is anything but copy/paste. If you’ve got the budget, go for it. I’ve heard nothing but good shit about Meadows. Know a couple of Boston’s clients and they all seem happy.

Reviews of coaches are pretty much limited to everyone’s individual experience and you have to know someone or someone has to have had such a bad experience they go hog wild blasting it on the internet.

My bottom line here is there are a lot of coaches with decent reps that aren’t going to demand top dollar due to their notoriety or client base. Justin Randall, John Jewett, pretty much any of the younger IFBB guys are doing great things from what I can see with their clients. Also tons of guys coaching that have never got a pro card that have fantastic results with clients.

Whats the budget? Whats the end goal (lbs gained/% fat lost)? What’s your training experience? What do you need out of a coach (daily comms? Just one check in a week? Need encouragement or can you handle and work with flat, no bullshit feedback?) Prefer the “old school” methods or the new guys giving more credence to studies and new age concepts? Lots of questions can be asked and the coaching relationship is often much more about the relationship than any drastic difference in knowledge base.

 

[Frozen]

Most of the “bigger” names will do you fine (well, most, there’s a bunch of cookie cutter bro science bullshit still hanging around older IFBB pros and the like, IE Palumbo).

But do you really need a “top tier” well known coach for your goal? Because you’re going to pay for it if the coaching is anything but copy/paste. If you’ve got the budget, go for it. I’ve heard nothing but good shit about Meadows. Know a couple of Boston’s clients and they all seem happy.

Reviews of coaches are pretty much limited to everyone’s individual experience and you have to know someone or someone has to have had such a bad experience they go hog wild blasting it on the internet.

My bottom line here is there are a lot of coaches with decent reps that aren’t going to demand top dollar due to their notoriety or client base. Justin Randall, John Jewett, pretty much any of the younger IFBB guys are doing great things from what I can see with their clients. Also tons of guys coaching that have never got a pro card that have fantastic results with clients.

Whats the budget? Whats the end goal (lbs gained/% fat lost)? What’s your training experience? What do you need out of a coach (daily comms? Just one check in a week? Need encouragement or can you handle and work with flat, no bullshit feedback?) Prefer the “old school” methods or the new guys giving more credence to studies and new age concepts? Lots of questions can be asked and the coaching relationship is often much more about the relationship than any drastic difference in knowledge base.

Respects man thanks for the good feed back. Me I personally have trouble sticking to my own diet plan nor do I have much knowledge of it in general, as well as drugs. I’d like someone that I can check in with and ask questions one or twice a week. I need the enforcement of structure which I thrive when in a structured environment.

my budget isn’t crazy low, I’m expecting to dish out some cash for coachin and drugs but this is all on preparation for my vacation/ honeymoon so I’m gonna do what is take to make sure I look good and am happy. I’ don’t want to be stage ready, would like to be at around 8-9% bf which would look good chilling around the beach/ pool. My training is good, I’m pretty strong and knock out heavy stuff for reps, when I get in the gym I’m the only one sweating like a pig so I’m definitely getting the muscle stimulation, get bigger and stronger with on just 250 test a week cruise right now until my surgery recovery . I’m looking for constructive feed back as well as diet/drug protocols.

I appreciate you or addition to my thread as I follow your posts a lot and respect your inputs.

I’m leaning towards bostin Loyd because I like his diet approach, fasted cardio, and only carbs at Necessary times, because I’m not a big carb eating fan myself. I just came home from an extended vacation so I’ve been off gear for 3 years. Other than the 750 sust I just ran for 12 weeks into this cruise I’m currently on. So I’m expecting to respond very well when adding new drugs in.

 

[doctordiesel]

My Tier 1: John Meadows, Chris Aceto, Chad Nicchols, Justin Miller, Matt Burzacott, Jordan Peters though he just stopped coaching now

Tier 2: Dusty Hanshaw, Brandon Ray, Justin Compton, Nelson Jones

Not good coaches: Matt Jansen,

Depending on budget etc there's a lot of good knowledgeable coaches I didn't even remember to name but been around this block for a long time those are the ones that come to my head that are open still. Bostin I have heard good things but being the stupidity he has done I'm not a huge fan of him personally.

When I think of more I'll come on here and name em again I'm sure.

 

[Fattyone]

Serious question:

a lot of big names you mentioned put out sooo much free content on dieting, gaining, workout plans etc. what would you gain from being coached by them for massive amounts of money that you wouldn’t get from studying their social media pages?

I’d imagine most big names are just giving you cookie cutter programs?

I’d love to find a coach that I could pay to work out with me. Every gym sesh lol I’m guessing that’s a 5 figure endeavor

 

[Frozen]

Serious question:

a lot of big names you mentioned put out sooo much free content on dieting, gaining, workout plans etc. what would you gain from being coached by them for massive amounts of money that you wouldn’t get from studying their social media pages?

I’d imagine most big names are just giving you cookie cutter programs?

I’d love to find a coach that I could pay to work out with me. Every gym sesh lol I’m guessing that’s a 5 figure endeavor

I went of that a little bit in my second comment, but I have a general grasp of nutrition and drugs but having a coach with more experience as well as the enforced structure would help a lot.

 

[NLM36]

Why not find a good local coach?
I had a good experience with Phil Hernon a few years ago and he was extremely cheap. Wasn’t big on answering questions just basically the here’s what to do and do it type of coach. I’m not sure if he’s still working with people but you could reach out to him on Facebook

 

[Ferenor]

I'm interested in this aswell. I'm tired of local coaches, they are all a copy paste of G. Romano style of training.

 

[doctordiesel]

This is the thing though....a coach is nothing but somebody you're paying for a second opinion of yourself. You will ALWAYS know your body better then other people. Training all comes down to finding what works best for you there's not right or wrong way really as long as the effort and consistency is put in.

Drugs are pretty damn basic and food is just learning about nutrition. Coaches are a popular trend today but before that people did prep themselves a lot of the time. Even when chad was coaching ronnie, nasser, flex, cormier, etc. it's not like he was able to get pictures right away. It was polaroid shots in the mail lol. Most stuff gets done on your own at the end of the day and 90% of diets will look cookie cutter to people because how many ways can you say to eat the same healthy foods differently.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Avoid Bostin Loyd if you care about dont endin up like him... i speak about Personal experience... hes a very good guy, honest person, but he thinks he knows everything and know I understand he knows very little...

It has been even my fault for some stuff, but, don’t suggest him unless youre a clueless dickhead and wanna get something very far from best advices...

I love John Meadows too but too expensive for me right now... i m a member of his mountain dogs site and i saw something out there that leave me with lot of questions, i hope he puts some garbage on purpose in regards of member contents to keep wondering and hire him

(exemple, he spoke about a different vision of cycling and it was something a huge front load for 3 weeks with different compounds every week and i saw some weeks were without base test... so, obv he s not a clueless moron, so i think he doesnt put complete contents on purpose, not speaking about youtube but membership stuff on mountaindogdiet)

i ve been 6 months with Jamie Do Rego , renewed him 1 week ago, pretty happy even if he s not perfect, and i m very far from it too..

I heard good things about Mands and MacWildcat here, so do big research about everyone you re interested in..

I m trying to get Chris Bumstead dna and inject it with a retrovirus, then i think i could even be coached by @PandaRep and get huge

 

[jJjburton]

Why seek out a coach?

all you have to do is eat clean, track calories, and manipulate diet for your goals. Lift and do cardio based on goals and timing.

its kind of basic stuff. The hardest part is doing it every day. Being consistant.

then doing workouts and doing so with progression towards goals.

 

[Fattyone]

Why seek out a coach?

all you have to do is eat clean, track calories, and manipulate diet for your goals. Lift and do cardio based on goals and timing.

its kind of basic stuff. The hardest part is doing it every day. Being consistant.

then doing workouts and doing so with progression towards goals.

I think I would benefit from one just for the accountability aspect. I’ll disappoint myself in a heart beat, but usually will try a little harder to make sure no one else knows just how big of a fuck up I am.

 

[jJjburton]

I think I would benefit from one just for the accountability aspect. I’ll disappoint myself in a heart beat, but usually will try a little harder to make sure no one else knows just how big of a fuck up I am.

Ahh got it. I was thinking that as well after i posted. It does make a difference: such as working out along vs in a gym with others around

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Why seek out a coach?

all you have to do is eat clean, track calories, and manipulate diet for your goals. Lift and do cardio based on goals and timing.

its kind of basic stuff. The hardest part is doing it every day. Being consistant.

then doing workouts and doing so with progression towards goals.

Because believe it or not, paying someone experienced for their time can help you avoid making the same 10yrs of mistake and guess and test they or others used to get where they are...

 

[jJjburton]

Because believe it or not, paying someone experienced for their time can help you avoid making the same 10yrs of mistake and guess and test they or others used to get where they are...

Yea i can see getting another opinion is a good idea. I used to lift with my strength and conditioning coach one on one. He taught my class. He really did help alot.

 

[Fattyone]

Ahh got it. I was thinking that as well after i posted. It does make a difference: such as working out along vs in a gym with others around

yep! I’ve got a nice home gym I only use on the weekends I have my kids and don’t want to leave them to go to the gym for the same reason lol

Because believe it or not, paying someone experienced for their time can help you avoid making the same 10yrs of mistake and guess and test they or others used to get where they are...

I’m interested in this too. I’ve always done my own thing, pulling ideas and techniques from people I trust (Meadows, Paul carter etc..). I have this idea that one day I want to get the body I desire And know I got there all on my own. I keep going back and forth on whether this is a good idea or not lol. This next blast I had planned to start running a Meadows program, but after switching to a new gym that has a decent amount of Prime and Arsenal Strength equipment, I’m back to planning on doing my own thing lol.
I’ve made progress, but I have this little seed of doubt in the back of my mind that says it could be more/better progress.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

yep! I’ve got a nice home gym I only use on the weekends I have my kids and don’t want to leave them to go to the gym for the same reason lol




I’m interested in this too. I’ve always done my own thing, pulling ideas and techniques from people I trust (Meadows, Paul carter etc..). I have this idea that one day I want to get the body I desire And know I got there all on my own. I keep going back and forth on whether this is a good idea or not lol. This next blast I had planned to start running a Meadows program, but after switching to a new gym that has a decent amount of Prime and Arsenal Strength equipment, I’m back to planning on doing my own thing lol.
I’ve made progress, but I have this little seed of doubt in the back of my mind that says it could be more/better progress.

And this is where an actual coach is more valuable than a print and execute plan, even one made by a renowned coach such as Meadows. Because your body’s needs (dietary needs, biomechanics, strengths and weaknesses genetically, etc) are ALL different from the next guys. Meadows puts together a great plan; I however disliked it. It wasn’t for me. Don’t mistake the e-book guidance for a true coaching experience.

That said, aside from preps, I’ve basically done the same. But having a coach can cause you to ask questions you never would of asked of things you may not have done yourself and expand your knowledge base very quickly. A good coach is also an objective eye where one may be lacking.

The only goal I have with a client aside from helping them reach their communicated goal, is to be a resource for questions and concerns such that at some point, they don’t need me. They’ve learned enough about how they respond based on what I’ve done and how I’ve explained why and how that they become mostly autonomous.

 

[wsmwannabe]

Because believe it or not, paying someone experienced for their time can help you avoid making the same 10yrs of mistake and guess and test they or others used to get where they are...

Yea I did this for 15 years with no coach. I got pretty strong compared to the average person, but with a coach I could’ve gotten where I am in 3-5 years instead of 15.