Ran it at 50mg before while doing tons of cardio. Don't remember getting calf pumps. So hopefully half that dose shouldn't cause a problem.
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Ran it at 50mg before while doing tons of cardio. Don't remember getting calf pumps. So hopefully half that dose shouldn't cause a problem.
I’m sure you know that terrain is the answer here. On flat ground, no faster and possibly a bit slower. Rolling hills and being a bit lighter can help. If you’re is a very hilly/mountainous area, lower weight matters greatly.
If you can’t get weight where you want it, then adjust where you ride to best suit your endeavors. It also helps to know what kind of rider you are: endurance, sprint, punchy, etc.
@one5onecc I did not read through all the responses here but if you are committed to a 5k and a 10k at time, lose weight (unless you’re Nick Symmonds). It’s the single best thing you can do besides running. Don’t take AAS - you’ll going weight.
Yes! Give a flat terrain, or even better a slight decline, and some tailwind and I'm unstoppable! The climbs are a different story even at the lower end of my bodyweight range.
After a three hour tempo ride today I got to thinking... of insulin can help BB push carbs into the muscle... could it be beneficial for us to use it to help replenish glycogen stores? Since the gyms are all closed I’ve been riding pretty much every day again for a couple months and man... my legs complain every morning 
slyfox115
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After a three hour tempo ride today I got to thinking... of insulin can help BB push carbs into the muscle... could it be beneficial for us to use it to help replenish glycogen stores? Since the gyms are all closed I’ve been riding pretty much every day again for a couple months and man... my legs complain every morning
I've was listening to a podcast the other day that stated cyclists do just that for recovery. Enhancing the mechanism that mediates the storage of the required nutrients for performance could only help you recover faster for the next training session. Higher levels of recovery and better training sessions would definitely make a better athlete over the long term vs. someone who didn't use it.
I've never done it but it seems like it could only help you (provided you care very careful of dosing/timing and having sugar on hand).
which podcast is you don’t mind telling? I’m always looking for new ones to listen to on my rides.
Ah yes, i would love to see one as well. I miss the old "endurance and sports specific training" sub forum of Cutting Edge Muscle. Those were the good old days
RunTrenFckTens
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Can someone explain how EPO is beneficial for cardiovascular activities. I understand that it increases RBC, but does it increase Hematocrit as well? It should correct? Which is essentially your volume of RBC's to plasma in your blood resulting in thicker blood, less oxygen moving to muscles. Any time my Hematocrit starts to rise from AAS my cardio seems to decrease. I can crank out 300 burpees in about 27min, but once my Hematocrit rises my time goes up to about 35-40min.
Yes you explained it
RunTrenFckTens
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So how is high hematocrit good for cardio when it seems to kill mine?
franco2000
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Hematocrit is the measure of your red blood cell count in your blood. If you increase the amount of red blood cells you are increasing your hematocrit. The more red blood cells/hematocrit the more O2 gets moved to the cells and the more they can do in turns of work. You are confused that they are something different from one another but they are the same. It doesn't matter that your blood gets "thicker" that does not decrease blood flow anywhere unless you get so many red blood cells that your blood starts to be effectively a solid tissue and not a liquid anymore which is how 30yr old cyclist die of heart attacks. That's the danger of EPO if your not monitoring your hematocrit closely. Every percentage point you go over 50% for your hematocrit increases your risk of an untimely death. At first its a very small increase but gets worse as you get to 60%. There have been endurance athletes with 60% hematocrit apparently. If you get less endurance when your RBC goes up then your body doesn't work like any other animal on the planet or something else is going on that you just don't realize and your blaming it on the only bit of data you have.
RunTrenFckTens
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My Hematocrit was at 55 and Hemoglobin was 185 before I donated. Not sure if it was in my head, but definitely had sides from it. Felt dizzy, cardio was quite poor, and I was quite a bit more vascular in the sense that veins seemed like they were always full.
From personal experience, you will feel a bit lethargic at that high of a hematocrit when just sitting around. However, when you do excercise, your capacity to carry oxygen is through the roof. I was a triathlete and I dont remember my wattage now, its been 15 years but the increase was substantial. It took my average speed on a 40k time trial course from 24mph to 27mph along the same course. I went from placing in my age group to placing in the overall and giving the pro's a run for their money on the cycling leg. In group rides where i had been evenly matched against the faster guys, i was easily riding off the front at will, when ever i wanted. In endurance sports, there is no equal to a high hematocrit. EPO is a hell of a drug.
You have to be careful though, as others have said. To high and you can die. I had bought a centrifuge and measured my hematocrit daily when i was on.
Reno
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when you want endurance , you must keep fat as low as possible. from soccer background i can tell you that we only supplementing with 1000mg vita c per day along with iron.And injecting b12 once a week. steroids will hold some water that you dont want and have impact on your game. although if a serious match come along or you feel tired you can inject very fast compound 2 hours before match ( test acetate ) to raise your aggression. an alternative is to use a trt dose of test and add some equipose (if anti doping test is not a concern), if you want to make a cycle.A small hack to raise just free test is proviron. DHT derivative that attaches to SHBG and make your free test raise.Very safe and effective on your aggresion. Again, proper diet and hard work is the best. if you are a pro in any athletic field and want to make big money then the risk/reward ratio change. HGH is a game changer in this field
Harry_ellis
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Don't mean to jump in on a thread that everyone seems to have moved on from, but I figured I would share my experience. I boxed competitively in my late teens through my mid 20's at an amateur level. We would typically run 3-5 miles 5x a week. Some of these runs would be threshold, some would be strictly zone 2. I tried just about everything, save test, to help me keep up with the volume and that's when I discovered datbtrue's forum and GH peptides and modafinil.
I was unemployed at this time, training from 9am-3pm m-f. A typical day looked like, all of this one on one:
running in the early morning
stretching
8 rounds of technical shadowboxing with light weights
6 rounds of jump rope
4 rounds of speed bag
4 rounds of ring movement drills
Break
6 rounds of pad work
30m - 1 hr of partner drills at varying speeds
6 rounds of heavy bag work
Hill sprints outside along with other mixed S/C
Break
6 rounds of sparring
Stretching
Plus lots of stuff mixed in here to fill the gaps. Boxing has very antiquated training systems and while the trainers know how to work someone to exhaustion, they tend to overwork the athlete needlessly and demand strict adherence to their training systems.
This was pretty exhausting and recovery was my biggest challenge until I started with the peptides. At the time, I didn't want to mess with my sex hormones and peptides were far cheaper then legit GH. My dosing structure looked like:
Morning: 100ug ghrp2/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q pre-run, fasted, take moda post-run
11am: 100ug ghrp2/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q 30 min before carb drink
3pm: 100ug ghrp2/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q 30 min pre-lunch
7pm: 100ug ghrp2/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q 30 min pre-dinner
11pm: 100ug ipamorelin/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q pre-bed
I bought a supply of ITPP and made an injectable solution out of it, and it helped a good bit, but it was too expensive to continue and didn't do enough at the dosage I was running.
The only downside was that I felt like a pin cushion after a while. Years of this protocol left me with little scars all over my stomach and ass that have now healed. But I felt like I could train every single day and was never seriously injured my entire tenure. Joints felt great.
I was unemployed at this time, training from 9am-3pm m-f. A typical day looked like, all of this one on one:
running in the early morning
stretching
8 rounds of technical shadowboxing with light weights
6 rounds of jump rope
4 rounds of speed bag
4 rounds of ring movement drills
Break
6 rounds of pad work
30m - 1 hr of partner drills at varying speeds
6 rounds of heavy bag work
Hill sprints outside along with other mixed S/C
Break
6 rounds of sparring
Stretching
Plus lots of stuff mixed in here to fill the gaps. Boxing has very antiquated training systems and while the trainers know how to work someone to exhaustion, they tend to overwork the athlete needlessly and demand strict adherence to their training systems.
This was pretty exhausting and recovery was my biggest challenge until I started with the peptides. At the time, I didn't want to mess with my sex hormones and peptides were far cheaper then legit GH. My dosing structure looked like:
Morning: 100ug ghrp2/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q pre-run, fasted, take moda post-run
11am: 100ug ghrp2/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q 30 min before carb drink
3pm: 100ug ghrp2/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q 30 min pre-lunch
7pm: 100ug ghrp2/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q 30 min pre-dinner
11pm: 100ug ipamorelin/100ug mod grf(1-29) sub q pre-bed
I bought a supply of ITPP and made an injectable solution out of it, and it helped a good bit, but it was too expensive to continue and didn't do enough at the dosage I was running.
The only downside was that I felt like a pin cushion after a while. Years of this protocol left me with little scars all over my stomach and ass that have now healed. But I felt like I could train every single day and was never seriously injured my entire tenure. Joints felt great.
Deezznutzz
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What high number was exceptable? Seems I hit 53.5 just on trt. I'm a lifetime cyclist too. Hope I'm just being paranoid. Never hit 54 yet. Lol
