Best steroid for skinny guy

[Krixus]

Krixus, do you really think we would want you to hurt yourself? We do not wish to "keep you from being buff." It's just a very very bad idea from the information you have given. I researched steroids about 6 years before even trying them. That gave me a lot of time to adjust diet and training.

Stick around and follow the forum, you can always cycle in the future. What's the rush for?

EDIT: If you have low t symptoms there are doctors whom will help you with prescribing TRT. Google and you will find some.

I did not know aabolic steroids were that harmful to your body?
I heard if you do a post cycle afterwards to raise your test levels back up it's not harmful to you.
Is that true?

 

[Sworder]

I did not know aabolic steroids were that harmful to your body?
I heard if you do a post cycle afterwards to raise your test levels back up it's not harmful to you.
Is that true?

To a point, your testosterone levels may come back to how they were. I would never start steroids unless I was willing to give up my natural t for the rest of my life. It's a commitment that you shouldn't be doing at age 18.

Even if you were 5'10" 200lbs and 8% BF would I recommend steroids even though you are at your natural limit.

I was writing up a nice "cycle" for you to meet your gains and there are a couple compounds out there that can kill you.

Not to mention a not fully matured mind on androgens making poor decisions.

Good night

 

[weighted chinup]

If you are a perfectly health young man, you can come close to your genetic limit in about two years..probably under that actually. If you have been training longer then that and you are not atleast 180-185 relatively lean at your height, then your training is shit.

That is an assumption, although one I can make with confidence

 

[Krixus]

If you are a perfectly health young man, you can come close to your genetic limit in about two years..probably under that actually. If you have been training longer then that and you are not atleast 180-185 relatively lean at your height, then your training is shit.

That is an assumption, although one I can make with confidence

I went from weighing 115 to 150 in under a year, but I feel like I'm not as strong as I could be, you know?

 

[weighted chinup]

I went from weighing 115 to 150 in under a year, but I feel like I'm not as strong as I could be, you know?

That is good progress for sure. I'm not sure what to tell you about getting stronger. Frequency in how you train is the biggest factor I can think of for getting stronger imo..

Like say a guy has really weak legs, yet he only trains legs once a weak. Ideally he should be hitting that muscle group more frequently. This will facilitate more strength gains and if he can squat 1.5x his BW for reps, then he will probably have some pretty impressive quads.

This is especially important for natural guys. As a natural I wouldn't train with anything with less frequency than a Push/Pull/Legs split...this is ideal for someone who is more bodybuilding oriented and is already fairly strong. It allows for plenty of volume and exercise selection, but also decent frequency for getting stronger. Weaker guys should do something like an upper/lower split 6x a week..

 

[Krixus]

That is good progress for sure. I'm not sure what to tell you about getting stronger. Frequency in how you train is the biggest factor I can think of for getting stronger imo..

Like say a guy has really weak legs, yet he only trains legs once a weak. Ideally he should be hitting that muscle group more frequently. This will facilitate more strength gains and if he can squat 1.5x his BW for reps, then he will probably have some pretty impressive quads.

This is especially important for natural guys. As a natural I wouldn't train with anything with less frequency than a Push/Pull/Legs split...this is ideal for someone who is more bodybuilding oriented and is already fairly strong. It allows for plenty of volume and exercise selection, but also decent frequency for getting stronger. Weaker guys should do something like an upper/lower split 6x a week..

I'm not sure what you mean by Upper/Lower split, is that a workout, could you define it easier please? Thank you!

 

[Stimfreak]

I'm not sure what you mean by Upper/Lower split, is that a workout, could you define it easier please? Thank you!

Upper as in chest, arms, shoulders. Lower as in back and legs

 

[Krixus]

Upper as in chest, arms, shoulders. Lower as in back and legs

Oh alright, thank you!

 

[weighted chinup]

I'm not sure what you mean by Upper/Lower split, is that a workout, could you define it easier please? Thank you!

No worries dude...

Upper Lower split is just how you decide to split up your work..for example one day you train upper body and the next day you train lower body...so if you trained 6x a week your week would look like this: upper/lower/upper/lower/upper/lower/rest

an example workout for U/L would be

Upper:

Dips
Incline
Chin Up
Seated Row
Side Lateral Raise
Bicep Curls
Rope Pressdown

Lower:
Romanian Deadlift
Front Squat
leg ext.
leg curl.

So basically what im trying to say is, take a look at that routine. You see the main lifts that are involved (dips,incline,chin ups, fsquat) and notice that they are being hit 3x a week. The higher frequency will facilitate better strength gains and nervous system adaptations then only doing those lifts once a week.

The easiest way for guys with shit genetics for bb'ing to grow and look good is to get strong with a 8-10 rep max. If a guy with a decent amount of bodyweight can do 10 reps of dips with 90lbs around his waist and 10 reps of chinups with 90lbs around his waist, he will have some big arms.

 

[Krixus]

No worries dude...

Upper Lower split is just how you decide to split up your work..for example one day you train upper body and the next day you train lower body...so if you trained 6x a week your week would look like this: upper/lower/upper/lower/upper/lower/rest

an example workout for U/L would be

Upper:

Dips
Incline
Chin Up
Seated Row
Side Lateral Raise
Bicep Curls
Rope Pressdown

Lower:
Romanian Deadlift
Front Squat
leg ext.
leg curl.

So basically what im trying to say is, take a look at that routine. You see the main lifts that are involved (dips,incline,chin ups, fsquat) and notice that they are being hit 3x a week. The higher frequency will facilitate better strength gains and nervous system adaptations then only doing those lifts once a week.

The easiest way for guys with shit genetics for bb'ing to grow and look good is to get strong with a 8-10 rep max. If a guy with a decent amount of bodyweight can do 10 reps of dips with 90lbs around his waist and 10 reps of chinups with 90lbs around his waist, he will have some big arms.

My problem is that I don't have access to a gym, I work-out at home with a pull-up bar and 25lb dumbells. That's all I have. :/

 

[weighted chinup]

My problem is that I don't have access to a gym, I work-out at home with a pull-up bar and 25lb dumbells. That's all I have. :/

In that case my friend, drugs wouldn't have done a whole lot for you in the first place..

If you have any serious physique or fitness related goals you should genuinely consider buying a gym membership. By the description of your setup, you have no way to progressive overload your weight on your lifts, which will basically mean you will make 0 progress...drugs or no drugs.

 

[Stimfreak]

My problem is that I don't have access to a gym, I work-out at home with a pull-up bar and 25lb dumbells. That's all I have. :/

Smh..

 

[Krixus]

In that case my friend, drugs wouldn't have done a whole lot for you in the first place..

If you have any serious physique or fitness related goals you should genuinely consider buying a gym membership. By the description of your setup, you have no way to progressive overload your weight on your lifts, which will basically mean you will make 0 progress...drugs or no drugs.

I will invest into it!
Is there a specific cycle you suggest for me after I get a gym membership?

 

[Stimfreak]

I will invest into it!
Is there a specific cycle you suggest for me after I get a gym membership?

Spend a few years in the gym first then you could start researching cycles. Don't waste your natty gains.

 

[Krixus]

Spend a few years in the gym first then you could start researching cycles. Don't waste your natty gains.

I should have been more specific. I meant a workout cycle, for a particular skinny guy like myself.

 

[Stimfreak]

Chin up posted some great workouts

 

[Krixus]

Chin up posted some great workouts

Okay! I will definitely take a look at how to do those! :3

 

[weighted chinup]

I should have been more specific. I meant a workout cycle, for a particular skinny guy like myself.

Depends on what your goals are. If you have serious bb'ing goals I think Push/Pull/Legs is the way to go for a natural.

However, if you are weak and looking to get stronger, 5x5 routines are ideal. This might be the ideal route to take, at least until you get a bit stronger, then you can start making changes in volume and exercise selection. A 5x5 with additional volume for arms and extra isolation is the way to go.

A beginner would be best suited with a Full Body routine...they really need the frequency because they aren't used to using their nervous system efficiently to do any of the major lifts, and they have to learn to use different motor pathways.

Intermediates should split up their work so they can do some extra lifts for variety.....an upper/lower, or if they are more bb'ing oriented, a P/P/L split is ideal here.

I have an Upper/Lower routine and the routine I run posted in the workout routines thread in the training forum, but I think you might be better suited with a full body split. 5x5's are the most popular full body routines for beginners..if you eat properly and do them consistently you will get very strong very fast.

 

[Krixus]

Depends on what your goals are. If you have serious bb'ing goals I think Push/Pull/Legs is the way to go for a natural.

However, if you are weak and looking to get stronger, 5x5 routines are ideal. This might be the ideal route to take, at least until you get a bit stronger, then you can start making changes in volume and exercise selection. A 5x5 with additional volume for arms and extra isolation is the way to go.

A beginner would be best suited with a Full Body routine...they really need the frequency because they aren't used to using their nervous system efficiently to do any of the major lifts, and they have to learn to use different motor pathways.

Intermediates should split up their work so they can do some extra lifts for variety.....an upper/lower, or if they are more bb'ing oriented, a P/P/L split is ideal here.

I have an Upper/Lower routine and the routine I run posted in the workout routines thread in the training forum, but I think you might be better suited with a full body split. 5x5's are the most popular full body routines for beginners..if you eat properly and do them consistently you will get very strong very fast.

Is there a specific 5x5 you would recommend? I need to work on my chest, core, and legs really bad. But I want my arms/shoulders/back to also get bigger!

 

[Stimfreak]

Bench, squat, and deadlift are what you need to focus on the rest can be added in