Best strength Stack?

[Scottish]

I compete in a weight regulated, non-tested, stength sport. We do everything from olympic and odd lifting to shot and discus throwing. I have been putting on weight for the last couple years but now I am at my limit. If I get any bigger I will have to move up a weight class. I have been trying to think of the best strength stack that would not put on a lot of weight, just alot of strength.
Halo would be my pre comp choice due to it's supposed direct effect on the CNS and increased aggression. Prior to that though I was thinking that Anavar and Tren would be good. What do you guys think. Any PL's or Oly lifters out there?

 

[Pup'nIrn]

I compete in a weight regulated, non-tested, stength sport. We do everything from olympic and odd lifting to shot and discus throwing. I have been putting on weight for the last couple years but now I am at my limit. If I get any bigger I will have to move up a weight class. I have been trying to think of the best strength stack that would not put on a lot of weight, just alot of strength.
Halo would be my pre comp choice due to it's supposed direct effect on the CNS and increased aggression. Prior to that though I was thinking that Anavar and Tren would be good. What do you guys think. Any PL's or Oly lifters out there?

Tren, low dosage test <200mg/wk(keep dick working) and EQ. This would be my personal choice. Strength without water weight....any gains would be legit. Pup

 

[TheSpectre]

Depends on how close you are to the next weight class. Many guys can gain 15 to 20lb on trenbolone. Halotestin might be better if you are just under the next weight class.

 

[Scottish]

My bodyfat is at about 10% so I could lose some of that to get down in weight if I had to but you're right about me being close to the weight class limit. I can only gain about 5 pounds.

 

[Deacon]

Halo would be your best bet run at 30 - 40 mgs ed for up to 6 weeks as a time.
I would run it 6 weeks before competition and then cycle off anf back on only six weeks before you compete again.

 

[wolve]

My bodyfat is at about 10% so I could lose some of that to get down in weight if I had to but you're right about me being close to the weight class limit. I can only gain about 5 pounds.

Var at 40-50mg ED. Little if no weight gain and lots of strenght.

 

[Deacon]

Var at 40-50mg ED. Little if no weight gain and lots of strenght.

he will do better with halo when he is seeking strength gains for strength competition - var is good but not as effective for his need IMO

 

[Pup'nIrn]

My bodyfat is at about 10% so I could lose some of that to get down in weight if I had to but you're right about me being close to the weight class limit. I can only gain about 5 pounds.

That is why I recomend Tren. Nobody is gaining 10-15lbs off tren alone. It is the gear with it that causes those gains. Tren gains will be without water retention so what you gain will lean muscle. Also, with a good diet tren is the best anabolic for fat loss. So it is very easy to se staying the same weight and gaining 5-6lbs of lean muscle and salot of strength. Even on a low calorie diet tren is strength effective. Just to give you an idea, I paused 365lbs for 3 reps on flat bench 3 days ago, at a weight of 200lbs after losing 65lbs and only 3 weeks out from my bodybuilding contest. You can lose and gain at the same time. Pup

 

[Scottish]

Halo is hard to come by and Anavar is expensive. Tren is looking more and more like the way to go. Pup, how long and at what dose were you running your tren? If I ran it alone what kind of PCT would I need?

 

[Pup'nIrn]

Halo is hard to come by and Anavar is expensive. Tren is looking more and more like the way to go. Pup, how long and at what dose were you running your tren? If I ran it alone what kind of PCT would I need?

I wouldn't run it alone. Use a minimum dosage maybe even 100mg/wk of test cyp. tren alone will kill your sex life. You need some test because tren will shut you down....As far as PCT only clomid to get test levels back to norm. I would also get some nolvadex if you really need to get below a certain weight. I can add 50mg of nolvadex to my daily regimen whether on gear or not and lose 6-7lbs of water and no strength. It real cheap and might be good to keep on hand. Pup

 

[Scottish]

Thanks for all the help guys. I'm going to run with the Tren/Test stack with Pup's ideas for PCT. I will still be keeping an eye on this thread though if anyone would like to add some more suggestions. I always keep an open mind

 

[kavika]

pup, you know your sh*t man, thanks for the info.

kavika

 

[Pup'nIrn]

Thanks for all the help guys. I'm going to run with the Tren/Test stack with Pup's ideas for PCT. I will still be keeping an eye on this thread though if anyone would like to add some more suggestions. I always keep an open mind

Just remember to eat clean and you'll actually lose some fat while gaining strength. If I were using tren for strength, I would use 75-100mg/ed tren ace. I would not recomend enth. sense most people claim better strength gains off ace. I would not be surpised a 10-15% increase in strength on all lifts within 4-6 wks.

I would only use the nolva 2-3 days or so before weigh in and increase water intake. I would use the same method before my bodybuilding contest to shed excess estrogen related water retention. Clomid at the end of the cycle 100mg/day(split 50mg doses) for 10 days and 50mg for another 20 days should have you humping telephone poles. Pup

 

[TheSpectre]

That is why I recomend Tren. Nobody is gaining 10-15lbs off tren alone. It is the gear with it that causes those gains. Tren gains will be without water retention so what you gain will lean muscle. Also, with a good diet tren is the best anabolic for fat loss. So it is very easy to se staying the same weight and gaining 5-6lbs of lean muscle and salot of strength. Even on a low calorie diet tren is strength effective. Just to give you an idea, I paused 365lbs for 3 reps on flat bench 3 days ago, at a weight of 200lbs after losing 65lbs and only 3 weeks out from my bodybuilding contest. You can lose and gain at the same time. Pup

Sorry bro I gained over 20lb of lean muscle on my IP parabolan this time around.

 

[Pup'nIrn]

Sorry bro I gained over 20lb of lean muscle on my IP parabolan this time around.

What else were you on? Tren although not true parabolan should exibit the same results. If you gained 20 true lean muscle pounds from a cycle and kept it, then you are truly gifted.....I assume it was and is fat, water and muscle. Because although alot of people like to believe one can gain that amount of muscle in a short period of time, we would all be 300lbs lean monsters by now of it were true. Pup

 

[TheSpectre]

What else were you on? Tren although not true parabolan should exibit the same results. If you gained 20 true lean muscle pounds from a cycle and kept it, then you are truly gifted.....I assume it was and is fat, water and muscle. Because although alot of people like to believe one can gain that amount of muscle in a short period of time, we would all be 300lbs lean monsters by now of it were true. Pup

233 to 256lb. In 8 weeks total of 13 so far. Stayed around 9 or %10 body fat. And no I am not taking any other juice. This stuff kicks ass even better than tren acetate.

 

[Pup'nIrn]

233 to 256lb. In 8 weeks total of 13 so far. Stayed around 9 or %10 body fat. And no I am not taking any other juice. This stuff kicks ass even better than tren acetate.

If you follow what I suggested to him. Eat clean and he will lose bodyfat at the same time. Tren is famous for being great assistance to dieters. Although he will not be dieting....eating clean and watching calories will produce fat loss due to his increased metabolism. I agree that tren can be a good gainer but you must be eating like a horse. Pup

 

[Scottish]

No offence Pup, but, BUMP for any other experiences with Tren and weight gain.

 

[Pup'nIrn]

No offence Pup, but, BUMP for any other experiences with Tren and weight gain.

No offense taken. I would like to hear of others gaining that much on a tren only cycle. Pup

 

[4545]

Tren and Halo will make you one strong MEAN mother fucker. I ran both alone before. Tren 100mg ED for 8 weeks and put 9 pounds solid. Ran 20mg Halo ED for 5 weeks and gained 2 pounds but went from inclining 350*4 to 395*4 and that was in 5 weeks. If you just want to get strong and gain no weight run Halo, but if you want to get strong and put on some mass run tren and a low dose of test. Suspension. 50mg ED. I think a great strength cycle would be 20-30mg Halo ED and 50mg Suspension 2* per day for 4-6 weeks. Strength will go thru the roof and you shouldnt put on much weight. Diet is key remember. Halo made me strong mean and ripped.