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Best Sub Q testosterone ester?
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thejumpingsheep
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Test-U 250 or 300 in MCT has never given me PIP, IM or SubQ up to 0.5mL. Test-C 250 does inflame a little SubQ but minor. Test-E similar to C in my experience.
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Photon
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danny91t
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test suspension
hellerhiwater
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is tne better sub over im, or are you saying if you're gonna do subq that's a good one to do it with?
im adding intermittent tne to my protocol to be able to keep pinning closer to endocrinologist-ordered blood work and still have levels acceptable enough to maintain my script
Elektrobot
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Sub q is all fun and games until you start getting noticeable lumps under your skin (and it more evident if you’re at a low % body fat). I did daily micro injections of my test sub q for about 4 months and it took about 4 months for my lumps and scar tissue to subside. I guess sub q works for some people. I started IM injections and never looked back. Leave the sub q shots for GH and peptides.
Photon
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They both get absorbed
hellerhiwater
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is there some issue you're afraid of bringing up? i wont get mad at you i promise.
or just a big Ye fan?
also do you have that log up and running yet?
Theiceman1
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Why is this subq injection talk so prevalent now days? Is it because everybody and their brother is going to a trt clinic now and they’re afraid of im injections? When I first started researching this stuff 10 years ago nobody was talking subq injections with oils.
BALLISTIC
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Who knows, new generation trying to reinvent the wheel. Unless it's micro dosing .10 to .25 or less your going to develope lumps, it has to be some unreasonable fear. Either way subq is proven to absorb and be beneficial. I equate it to PIP though. Now launch shitty quality propionate or the like and it's not just PIP, it's debilitating burning soreness and unnecessary entirely.
Elektrobot
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Imagine thinking needles only scar muscles......
Needle into muscle = scar tissue
Needle into hypodermis = ........... say it with me......... scar tissue
adrenalytic
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dudes one of the newtards. ignore his inane ramblings. just wants to cope his fear of IM.
I'm surprised to see all the hate for subq. I did IM with harpoons for quite some time, and the scar tissue buildup simply wasn't sustainable when injecting daily to mitigate spikes.
Is the argument that injecting shallow subq into essentially inert tissue with a slin pin will cause the same cumulative damage and problems as injecting deep into functional muscle with a harpoon? I was already experiencing injection site pain, knotting, and tightness after even just a year of IM injections. I do not experience any of that since switching to subq. No problems with oil buildup or anything. Total test level is also higher on the same dose since switching.
Is the argument that injecting shallow subq into essentially inert tissue with a slin pin will cause the same cumulative damage and problems as injecting deep into functional muscle with a harpoon? I was already experiencing injection site pain, knotting, and tightness after even just a year of IM injections. I do not experience any of that since switching to subq. No problems with oil buildup or anything. Total test level is also higher on the same dose since switching.
powerdiesel
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Personally I think subq makes a lot of sense if you are on TRT or doing ED injections. A while ago I tried subq but was getting small lumps so I switched to IM. But once I learned the trick of warming my oil with a baby wipe warmer I switched back to subQ and I'm no longer getting any lumps.
I'm using a 29 gauge .5" pen needle with an autoinjector pen in the fattest parts of my glutes (0.30 ml test C per injection).
I'm using a 29 gauge .5" pen needle with an autoinjector pen in the fattest parts of my glutes (0.30 ml test C per injection).
Eddie.
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Leaving all the stupid comments aside, ester doesn't play role. Biggest role IMO is the carrier oil, find the one who doesn't irritate you.
Personally i've tried subc test E, test C, test D, eq, primo, mast, tren Ace and from carrier oils i've tried GSO, sesame, MCT and castor oil with no issues.
The only thing that irritates my skin and leaves a small lump is that shit quality high concentration test E400 and test D400 from dutch. Needless to say that these two when i first tried it IM made me almost go to the ER because they made a golf ball lump, was hot and red for almost a week. Just use good quality products with a carrier oil that your body can handle and you'll be ok.
There's some cases though where subc can't be tolerated at all, whatever the oil and brand is. Then doing IM is the only way.
Personally i've tried subc test E, test C, test D, eq, primo, mast, tren Ace and from carrier oils i've tried GSO, sesame, MCT and castor oil with no issues.
The only thing that irritates my skin and leaves a small lump is that shit quality high concentration test E400 and test D400 from dutch. Needless to say that these two when i first tried it IM made me almost go to the ER because they made a golf ball lump, was hot and red for almost a week. Just use good quality products with a carrier oil that your body can handle and you'll be ok.
There's some cases though where subc can't be tolerated at all, whatever the oil and brand is. Then doing IM is the only way.
Elektrobot
Member
Why "harpoon"? There are so many good needle options out there. Thin wall 30g that flow like a 27... 3/4", 1" ... just get good kit
I inject everything into my glutes with a 30g 1/2" insulin pin. Even l-carnitine. It's very slow to draw, but then I heat it and I can push a full ml into my glute through an insulin pin in about 15 seconds.
nathenking
New Member
On cruise I run 300mg of Test Cyp. 1.5ML Total. 3 Injections of .5ml per week all sub q. No issues
frofrank
New Member
I've done test e subq MCT and leaves lumps for me, switched to shallow IM because I pin daily and that many lumps would be annoying. Both were with a 29g .5in slin. Haven't tried test c but when I do ill do a subq trial as well.
