malfeasance
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So now a thread lamenting the permaban of BBBG is going to be about "The Jews," too?
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I just can't agree that political conversations need to be kept down because of discord and intolerance of some people.
That's exactly how we got where are today. People let stupid shit happen because they didn't want to speak up and start a potential heated debate.
So then more stupid shit happens and nobody speaks out. Now we get where we're at today.
I disagree. We have to speak out.
I can tolerate hearing opinions I don't agree with and will debate the matters civilized with anybody.
I don't think it's a reason to not openly discuss opinions or political situations because some people get their feelings hurt.
No one mentioned the ones that can't be mentioned.So now a thread lamenting the permaban of BBBG is going to be about "The Jews," too?
annnnnddddd... I'm out.
Afraid you'll hear something that might offend you?
Or maybe some facts or logic that contradict your own beliefs?
Gotta stop running.
Not saying this is your case, but the vast majority of people anymore who refuse to discuss policies are democrat party supporters who cannot defend the actions of their leadership logically.
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You have groups with different identities and cultures being forced together in a giant clash of multiculturalism.
One group in power is being questioned and actively being overthrown and the incoming group is proposing a way of life that is completely unacceptable to those that are watching their power disappear.
This doesn't end well I can assure you, but it's also playing into the hands of the money elite.
Remember 80 million of our European brothers and sisters were covered with dirt, instead of rising up and working together to take the reigns and keep the power securely in their hands, they instead will be turned into canon fodder once again by the schemers that shall go unmentioned as they rub their hands together and laugh behind closed doors.
You and I may not completely agree.
But I respect your opinions and also respect your willingness to explain them.
Open discourse and free exchange of ideas and opinions, without censorship is the only hope we have.
We have to be able to talk openly about the situations.
If you go to the forum link I posted and read through it, you'll see that I debated numerous very left leaning moderators to the point that they forced to concede their own delusions.
That unacceptance to question ones own beliefs and opinions is the real problem.
People in power want us to blame each other for the problems around us, instead of the people who have been in charge.
A prime example is that most democrat party supporters honestly believe that old toothless racists living destitute in trailer parks in places like Idaho and Nebraska are the reason public schools in places like Detroit and Baltimore are horrendous.
Imagine the lunacy of that. Blaming poor people who don't live in those places and never been to those cities for the plight of people in them, instead of the democrat party politicians who are in charge of those places?
It's utterly preposterous.
But pointing it out, is what will make them hostile.
Y’all playin with fire. I’m out as well…
May BBBG and the rest of the homies RIP. I’ll see you on the other side.
May BBBG and the rest of the homies RIP. I’ll see you on the other side.
People lust after power and it's something that has to be resisted constantly.
There is a pathology in mankind, the older I get the more I notice it, for those that insist on lording over and oppressing people. They have to control everyone around them.
The only way to defeat this is to walk away anytime someone gets the bright idea to force you or others to comply with arbitrary rules.
One of the problems with most 1st world societies these days is this idea of respecting that which has been written down as sacred....the law, never asking who was the douche that took it upon themselves to create all these endless rules.
It makes me puke when someone like Merrick Garland and a long list of political crony judges tell us that we will uphold the law and those that break these sacred words, written down by asswipes, will pay a severe price.....that is unless you have plenty of money to actually afford to get off.
I don't even think this current period in time has anything to do with race, it's really those looking for freedom from this straight jacket way of life that seems to fit certain people just fine that eventually sit in positions of power where they prescribe the lifestyle for all the rest us that keeps the elites in power with their boots on our necks.
You're seeing it with the great resignation, people woke up from a hypnotic state of waking up to do the same thing everyday, where they said "fuck it" and walked off the job.
Freedom from tyranny is really what people want, with a hand selected minority wanting to terrorize others after spending years paying their institutional dues and feeling entitled to sit in credentialed positions of authority backed up with violent force.
I don't have any answers on how to fix it, but it's pretty fucked I know this.
Another democrat bites the dust.
The democrat party in the 1900s rose to Power from the ashes of the Civil War (which they had a hand in starting) by convincing poor whites in Northern industrialized cities that all of the suffering and struggles they suffered in this rich nation were not because of the leadership they voted for, but because of poor rural black people living on the skirts of towns and struggling to get by.
They created blame, then rage towards a scapegoat with no real voice to defend itself. Then they formed democrat party sponsored militias like the KKK to channel this hatred and rage as well as network and raise money for democrat party elites to utilize as campaign leverage.
Fast forward to today. The democrat party of the 2020s has risen to power from the ashes of the Great recession by convincing poor people of color in industrialized northern cities that all of their suffering and hardships are jor because of the democrat party leadership they've voted in, but because of poor rural white people living in unfashionable places you only see from airplanes or on television.
Then they created blame, then rage toward that scapegoat who had no real voice to defend themselves, the democrat party then formed sponsored militias like BLM and Antifa to channel that rage and raise funds for democrat party politicians facing tough elections and questions of accountability.
The big lie?
The big lie is that the democrat party somehow "changed platforms". Because any logical person can see, it's the same oligarchy playing from the same playbook, just facing the a different end zone to score the same points, in the same game they've always played.
The democrat party has done nothing for the working class, nothing for the black communities and nothing for the gay peoples who support them. And nothing for the American nation.
They've got massive propaganda networks pumping out noxious garbage 24-7-365 making it hordes malleable amd controllable by making them afraid of imagined boogeyman and bizarre word soup concepts like "systemic racism" and "white supremacist". Then they train attack words like "racist" which is a cue for any indoctrinated member of the democrat party horde to respond to on que.
All it takes for one of the elite "sainthood" rank democrats to call something, or someone "racist" and the horde has been conditioned to fanatically attack whatever has been named so by the holy democrat party saints.
It's the old "born sinners" and "repent to be saved" and "evil vs divine" garbage we've always heard from these same people. The game is always the same. Just the pieces and chess board changes.
Democrat party supporters, really need to ask yourselves, what the hell are you really about?
They created blame, then rage towards a scapegoat with no real voice to defend itself. Then they formed democrat party sponsored militias like the KKK to channel this hatred and rage as well as network and raise money for democrat party elites to utilize as campaign leverage.
Fast forward to today. The democrat party of the 2020s has risen to power from the ashes of the Great recession by convincing poor people of color in industrialized northern cities that all of their suffering and hardships are jor because of the democrat party leadership they've voted in, but because of poor rural white people living in unfashionable places you only see from airplanes or on television.
Then they created blame, then rage toward that scapegoat who had no real voice to defend themselves, the democrat party then formed sponsored militias like BLM and Antifa to channel that rage and raise funds for democrat party politicians facing tough elections and questions of accountability.
The big lie?
The big lie is that the democrat party somehow "changed platforms". Because any logical person can see, it's the same oligarchy playing from the same playbook, just facing the a different end zone to score the same points, in the same game they've always played.
The democrat party has done nothing for the working class, nothing for the black communities and nothing for the gay peoples who support them. And nothing for the American nation.
They've got massive propaganda networks pumping out noxious garbage 24-7-365 making it hordes malleable amd controllable by making them afraid of imagined boogeyman and bizarre word soup concepts like "systemic racism" and "white supremacist". Then they train attack words like "racist" which is a cue for any indoctrinated member of the democrat party horde to respond to on que.
All it takes for one of the elite "sainthood" rank democrats to call something, or someone "racist" and the horde has been conditioned to fanatically attack whatever has been named so by the holy democrat party saints.
It's the old "born sinners" and "repent to be saved" and "evil vs divine" garbage we've always heard from these same people. The game is always the same. Just the pieces and chess board changes.
Democrat party supporters, really need to ask yourselves, what the hell are you really about?
What we are seeing today has nothing to do with the politics of the past.
The 3rd world is invading the west(with the help of a certain minority group that loves death and destruction), the west that built this civilization is being asked to pretend it never existed and for a new people to come in and take it all for themselves. You will be told to dig your own grave and many willing dupes will do exactly that.
All the suckers that fought in world wars to defend their homeland did it for nothing, Your entire history will be erased and your progeny will live in terror as they are raped and murdered in the streets.
It's hopeless at this point and it's depressing to think this is how it will end.
Playing nice and obeying the non-aggression principle just allows those that sit in power to terrorize as they remind you over and over not to get upset as your kinfolk are picked off one at a time.
The 3rd world is invading the west(with the help of a certain minority group that loves death and destruction), the west that built this civilization is being asked to pretend it never existed and for a new people to come in and take it all for themselves. You will be told to dig your own grave and many willing dupes will do exactly that.
All the suckers that fought in world wars to defend their homeland did it for nothing, Your entire history will be erased and your progeny will live in terror as they are raped and murdered in the streets.
It's hopeless at this point and it's depressing to think this is how it will end.
Playing nice and obeying the non-aggression principle just allows those that sit in power to terrorize as they remind you over and over not to get upset as your kinfolk are picked off one at a time.
Zebedee
Member
I think everyone leaving is probably due to the fact that this was supposed to be a discussion about the recent banning dramafest & the scope of the discussion has now gone somewhere past the horizon & over the rainbow.
Anyway, on that note .... that’s me gone too.
95% of the vets here are harsh. That's what attracted me to finally make an account instead of lurking. I love the no bullshit tell it how it is vibe this place has/had.
BBBG was a solid dude. Helped me when I needed it. Very informative and knowledgeable, and a major loss to this forum. So are some of the other guys I don't see anymore. Yeah, he was harsh, but what was going on in the NAPS thread was absolute bullshit. NAPS is flat out spamming this fucking board. For the life of me I can't figure out why Millard allows it.
I do understand being in Millards shoes. Honestly, he puts up with a lot of bullshit that as a forum owner myself wouldn't even remotely entertain to allow at my boards.
It's a shame all the way around. Some really smart, informative and helpful people left MESO. And they did an excellent job keeping the UG labs honest.
DaletheMunkmunk
Banned
You could avoid a lot of the problems if there was a universal standard put in place on this board that you had to get each product your selling tested by two different customers 3 months after you begin sourcing. In addition to lot testing by the source every 6 months for each product.
It's not that difficult to draw up a plan for sources to follow and state clearly the new rules. If everyone knew what was expected you wouldn't have to go around jumping on peoples cases.
DaletheMunkmunk
Banned
Creating multiple accounts to circumvent ban is prohibited.
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its not s secret what is expected. if the source was too lazy yo figure it out, the members even spelled it out for the source. It comes down to sources being to lazy and disrespectful to follow the members requests. and the problem is compounded by a site owner bought by butthurt sources.
DaletheMunkmunk
Banned
now you have a mojority membership who doesnt give a fuck, and an admin willing to protect sources. look what a wasteland this place has turned into.
