BigBaldBeardGuy left meso!?!?!

[theotherguy]

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its not s secret what is expected. if the source was too lazy yo figure it out, the members even spelled it out for the source. It comes down to sources being to lazy and disrespectful to follow the members requests. and the problem is compounded by a site owner bought by butthurt sources.

Agreed, it’s not real hard to figure out what the members want. Especially, as you mentioned, when the members spell it out for the sources, every single time. It’s proves the sources are either lazy, apathetic, or just don’t have the proof they’re doing things in a sanitary way.

 

[DaletheMunkmunk]

Agreed, it’s not real hard to figure out what the members want. Especially, as you mentioned, when the members spell it out for the sources, every single time. It’s proves the sources are either lazy, apathetic, or just don’t have the proof they’re doing things in a sanitary way.

the reputation of meso is moving away from "harm reduction" . millard has shown his true self as a sellout. If he want this forum to be viewed as a place focused on safety and reduction of harm, he can do the work of vetting sources so members dont get ripped off, health trouble, or legal trouble. He hasnt lifted a finger to help with source vetting, and he eliminated the members who cared enough to do it themselves. warning to new members: look out for yourselves and for eachother, because nobody else here is going to.

 

[Millard]

Yeah, he was harsh, but what was going on in the NAPS thread was absolute bullshit. NAPS is flat out spamming this fucking board. For the life of me I can't figure out why Millard allows it.

The steroid underground subforum encourages people to post positive and negative reviews of sources. Direct, first-hand reviews are preferred but the sharing of third-party reviews is permitted especially if the attribution is given to the origin of the review. In addition, original photos of products as well as lab test reviews are also encouraged. These opinions and experiences - good and bad - regarding steroid sources are not censored/deleted. They certainly do no represent a violation of the rules nor the basis for a ban.

This has been explained multiple times. This can't be any clearer or any more unambiguous. This is a core principle of the forum.

 

[Millard]

now you have a mojority membership who doesnt give a fuck, and an admin willing to protect sources. look what a wasteland this place has turned into.

Most members can see that they are free to express their negative and positive opinions regarding any source in the steroid underground subforum.

It is readily apparent, especially in the naps threads, that the literally thousands of negative posts by hundreds of members have not been deleted. And members are just as free to post their negative opinions, reviews, etc. as they always have.

Most members respect the forum rules and do not personally attack administrators and/or moderators who do nothing more than enforce those rules.

Those who repeatedly and blatantly disregard and disparage the forum guidelines are not welcome. It's pretty basic stuff for the operation of a forum.

 

[x666x]

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its not s secret what is expected. if the source was too lazy yo figure it out, the members even spelled it out for the source. It comes down to sources being to lazy and disrespectful to follow the members requests. and the problem is compounded by a site owner bought by butthurt sources.

It's still the best aas forum by a mile, there's nothing else that even comes close.

Just be thankful steroids aren't being smuggled from Mexico up someones ass.

 

[Maitiu]

The steroid underground subforum encourages people to post positive and negative reviews of sources. Direct, first-hand reviews are preferred but the sharing of third-party reviews is permitted especially if the attribution is given to the origin of the review. In addition, original photos of products as well as lab test reviews are also encouraged. These opinions and experiences - good and bad - regarding steroid sources are not censored/deleted. They certainly do no represent a violation of the rules nor the basis for a ban.

This has been explained multiple times. This can't be any clearer or any more unambiguous. This is a core principle of the forum.

On August 28th, NAPS was spamming the shit out of this board. I didn't even go back further than that to see how bad it was. Sure, he's working in the boundaries of your rule, but he simply could have combined all that spam into 1 or 2 posts instead of 5 pages of spam. Oh look, I've got TREN A. Next post, hey, I've got TREN E. Come on man. You and I both know that's spamming the boards to keep his thread at the top.

 

[Freakmidd]

On August 28th, NAPS was spamming the shit out of this board. I didn't even go back further than that to see how bad it was. Sure, he's working in the boundaries of your rule, but he simply could have combined all that spam into 1 or 2 posts instead of 5 pages of spam. Oh look, I've got TREN A. Next post, hey, I've got TREN E. Come on man. You and I both know that's spamming the boards to keep his thread at the top.

It is evident in the naps thread that spamming is allowed as long as accompanied by a picture..

 

[x666x]

warning to new members: look out for yourselves and for eachother, because nobody else here is going to.

I think the BBBG legacy while important, was missing the big picture. If you want cheap raws, finished ugl, that's fine, just remember you have to pay for the testing if you want to settle any doubts of what "you" have in your hand. A long list of testing posted by the source is never gonna tell you for sure what you have.

 

[Millard]

Sure, he's working in the boundaries of your rule, but he simply could have combined all that spam into 1 or 2 posts instead of 5 pages of spam. Oh look, I've got TREN A. Next post, hey, I've got TREN E. Come on man. You and I both know that's spamming the boards to keep his thread at the top.

You said it yourself. Operating within the boundaries of the rules. It's not that hard to do. And it's very easy to hold sources accountable on MESO by operating within the boundaries of the rules too.

Imagine a website forum where you not only post your own first-hand negative review but you could ALSO create a thread where you could post all of the negative reviews found across the internet for any and every available steroid source.

You could add reviews from third-party complaint sites like pissedconsumer, etc. You could add reviews from other steroid- and bodybuilding-related forums. (Of course, you would provide attribution with a hyperlink to the website.) Obviously, on forums that are likely to censor negative reviews, you may need to take a screenshot to accompany the review and hyperlink when you share it on MESO.

You would NOT be restricted in how many negative third-party reviews you post (with attribution) as long as you don't post the same review over and over again.

You would NOT be required to combine all of the negative third-party reviews in a single post to avoid bumping the thread like you suggested. If you find a new negative review every day, you will be free to post it to keep the thread at the top.

There are no restrictions when it comes to this. You would NOT be penalized/censored/banned for posting negative reviews.

This is a great thing, right? Well, this is MESO.

MESO also permits positive reviews just like it encourages negative reviews. The same guidelines apply.

The rules and guidelines do not discriminate just because you don't like someone or disagree with the content of their post.

The steroid underground subforum encourages people to post positive and negative reviews of sources. Direct, first-hand reviews are preferred but the sharing of third-party reviews is permitted especially if the attribution is given to the origin of the review. In addition, original photos of products as well as lab test reviews are also encouraged. These opinions and experiences - good and bad - regarding steroid sources are not censored/deleted. They certainly do no represent a violation of the rules nor the basis for a ban.

This has been explained multiple times. This can't be any clearer or any more unambiguous. This is a core principle of the forum.

 

[Maitiu]

I think the BBBG legacy while important, was missing the big picture. If you want cheap raws, finished ugl, that's fine, just remember you have to pay for the testing if you want to settle any doubts of what "you" have in your hand. A long list of testing posted by the source is never gonna tell you for sure what you have.

Fuck that man. I don't mind doing my own test if I need to just to keep the UGL honest. But there is no way a source shouldn't have to post the test results of his raws, and the products from that batch. If you want to go ahead and buy something that you have no evidence of being tested, be my guest, but that is a shit precedent to set with sources.

I'd never buy from a source who hasn't posted the results from his raws and the results from that specific batch. As crazy as this sounds, I want to know what I'm injecting myself with. Crazy ain't it?

 

[theotherguy]

I think the BBBG legacy while important, was missing the big picture. If you want cheap raws, finished ugl, that's fine, just remember you have to pay for the testing if you want to settle any doubts of what "you" have in your hand. A long list of testing posted by the source is never gonna tell you for sure what you have.

But it's a start, it either shows they give a shit about their product, OR, if it's a fake test, then you know they're a scammer or at best, a lying POS.

 

[Maitiu]

You said it yourself. Operating within the boundaries of the rules. It's not that hard to do. And it's very easy to hold sources accountable on MESO by operating within the boundaries of the rules too.

Imagine a website forum where you not only post your own first-hand negative review but you could ALSO create a thread where you could post all of the negative reviews found across the internet for any and every available steroid source.

You could add reviews from third-party complaint sites like pissedconsumer, etc. You could add reviews from other steroid- and bodybuilding-related forums. (Of course, you would provide attribution with a hyperlink to the website.) Obviously, on forums that are likely to censor negative reviews, you may need to take a screenshot to accompany the review and hyperlink when you share it on MESO.

You would NOT be restricted in how many negative third-party reviews you post (with attribution) as long as you don't post the same review over and over again.

You would NOT be required to combine all of the negative third-party reviews in a single post to avoid bumping the thread like you suggested. If you find a new negative review every day, you will be free to post it to keep the thread at the top.

There are no restrictions when it comes to this. You would NOT be penalized/censored/banned for posting negative reviews.

This is a great thing, right? Well, this is MESO.

MESO also permits positive reviews just like it encourages negative reviews. The same guidelines apply.

The rules and guidelines do not discriminate just because you don't like someone or disagree with the content of their post.

He's still spamming your boards. The quickest way to lose membership on any forum is to let spam overrun your forums.

Yeah, we can call him out and tell him to fuck off, stop spamming. But if he doesn't give a fuck, there's nothing stopping him. It's a major turn off to members. At least it is to me. Apparently it was a turn off to some of your valuable members too.

 

[Millard]

He's still spamming your boards. The quickest way to lose membership on any forum is to let spam overrun your forums.

Yeah, we can call him out and tell him to fuck off, stop spamming. But if he doesn't give a fuck, there's nothing stopping him. It's a major turn off to members. At least it is to me. Apparently it was a turn off to some of your valuable members too.

I understand that you and some other members would be much more comfortable on a source forum where someone - whether it is administrators, moderators, or a small group of members - decides (explicitly or implicitly) which sources are GTG or otherwise allowed to participate in the forum and which sources are NOT allowed to participate in the forum. And that is fine.

MESO is different. It is NOT a source forum. The forum is about accountability for all sources. Members are free to post all negative and positive reviews/opinions about any source. Ideally, MESO would have at least one thread for EVERY active internet source in which members can hold them to account for their products, customer service, etc.

The forum has been like this for 10-15 years. It's done well. But feedback and suggestions are welcome.

 

[x666x]

But it's a start, it either shows they give a shit about their product, OR, if it's a fake test, then you know they're a scammer or at best, a lying POS.

Of course you want the source to test.

I'd actually prefer if the source would send each lot off to two different labs and make sure the results agree within 2%. That sort of comparison would be most valuable.

If I was a source on this forum I would do exactly that. And thanks to Jano's input on degradation I would probably overdose my brews at 20% and set the expiration date at 6 months. Over fill my vials at 12ml instead of 10ml. All these things would drive customers towards you and allow you to keep a high minimum order requirement.

I understand that a source doesn't want to do this because they are profit driven, but it's not that difficult to do.

 

[theotherguy]

Of course you want the source to test.

I'd actually prefer if the source would send each lot off to two different labs and make sure the results agree within 2%. That sort of comparison would be most valuable.

If I was a source on this forum I would do exactly that. And thanks to Jano's input on degradation I would probably overdose my brews at 20% and set the expiration date at 6 months. Over fill my vials at 12ml instead of 10ml. All these things would drive customers towards you and allow you to keep a high minimum order requirement.

I understand that a source doesn't want to do this because they are profit driven, but it's not that difficult to do.

Now you’re flip flopping.

Sending oils to multiple testing facilities still won’t guarantee you’re getting what you paid for. But again, it shows some level of commitment to quality and harm reduction on the sources behalf if they’re willing to test. That’s it.

 

[Villain]

FYI, these kind of personal attacks will get you banned in case that wasn't clear.

Lol, wasn’t his first or last ban here as a new incarnation of CdnGuy

 

[MindlessWork]

Lol, wasn’t his first or last ban here as a new incarnation of CdnGuy

Usually new handles of CdnGuy's will be found in the Canadian domestic source threads.

 

[Villain]

Usually new handles of CdnGuy's will be found in the Canadian domestic source threads.

Yep lol *cough* KP300 *cough*

 

[daron_e]

When did we get Forum admin other than Millard?

Well there u have it. Things changing here I see.

 

[combover]

Yep lol *cough* KP300 *cough*

Lol, I just went and read some of his posts, def cdnguy. Such an angry fella.

The part that was funny was when he said someone would get laughed out of his gym. I don't think cdnguy actually works out. I've seen pics. I think he's too busy smoking meth to get at the gym. He had quite the episode before getting that nick banned.