Bill Roberts Style 2 Weekers

[Bjorn Turock]

I am planning on running a series of 5 - 2 week cycles of Tren A, Mast, Test Phenyl

Day 1: 137.5 mg Tren / 50 mg Mast / 37.5 mg Test

Day 2-10: 67.5 mg Tren / 50 mg Mast / 37.5 mg Test
(Day 3,6,9,14: HCg 500 iu)

Day 12-14: nada *HCg excepted

Day 15: Clomid 300 mg
Day 16-21: Clomid 50 mg

Day 22-40 nada

 

[Brandaddy]

I am planning on running a series of 5 - 2 week cycles of Tren A, Mast, Test Phenyl

Day 1: 137.5 mg Tren / 50 mg Mast / 37.5 mg Test

Day 2-10: 67.5 mg Tren / 50 mg Mast / 37.5 mg Test
(Day 3,6,9,14: HCg 500 iu)

Day 12-14: nada *HCg excepted

Day 15: Clomid 300 mg
Day 16-21: Clomid 50 mg

Day 22-40 nada

I've actually wanted to do something similar to this. I was figuring either 2 weeks on 4 weeks off, or 3 weeks on 6 weeks off. I was just hoping to see someone else tried it before I wasted my time doing it. lol. It seems a decent way of cycling theory.. Minimize negative sides, pct won't be such a bitch and the gains would be easier to keep.

I'll watch you do your test and if it works out decent, I'm definitely going to do it.

 

[master.on]

I am planning on running a series of 5 - 2 week cycles of Tren A, Mast, Test Phenyl

Day 1: 137.5 mg Tren / 50 mg Mast / 37.5 mg Test

Day 2-10: 67.5 mg Tren / 50 mg Mast / 37.5 mg Test
(Day 3,6,9,14: HCg 500 iu)

Day 12-14: nada *HCg excepted

Day 15: Clomid 300 mg
Day 16-21: Clomid 50 mg

Day 22-40 nada

Keep us posted
for me 2 weeks is too short

4 weeks on /4 off might be interesting with short acting gear tho.

 

[ErikR]

How much muscle do you expect to gain in 2 weeks? In theory it sounds good, but the gains are not worth the hormonal roller coaster. 6 weeks minimum. 4 weeks maybe.

 

[Brandaddy]

How much muscle do you expect to gain in 2 weeks? In theory it sounds good, but the gains are not worth the hormonal roller coaster. 6 weeks minimum. 4 weeks maybe.

I think that is supposed to be the point is by being on such a short time you won't be shut downas much and you body will recover easier which I guess would make it less stressful to your HPTA?? That is obviously just my bioscience take away speculation from it. I've never wanted to waste my time with it, but I've been wishing someone would. Ha

 

[ErikR]

I think that is supposed to be the point is by being on such a short time you won't be shut downas much and you body will recover easier which I guess would make it less stressful to your HPTA?? That is obviously just my bioscience take away speculation from it. I've never wanted to waste my time with it, but I've been wishing someone would. Ha

No, I get it. I just think 2 weeks is too short. Cycling AAS is a hormonal roller coaster no matter how you look at it. Even if your on trt and blast your levels have to come back down. I don't feel the same on trt as I do on a blast. Sex drive is not as good as on higher test. A lot of us try to find ways to get the least sides and try to stay safe, but there are certain things that you can't really go around if you want to make gains. It's risks vs rewards. But try it. I think if someone would do this they have to give it a year being consistent with it to really see much.

 

[Bjorn Turock]

I plotted this out on my calendar and it should take me until the end of January middle of February. I like that it allows me to take some time off if there is an injury or work-related interruption in my training schedule.

I am 6'3'' currently around 220 lbs, 35" waist 14% bf. By February I would like to be 210-215 and 8-9% bf without sacrificing strength. For long term health and longevity reasons I do not want to go above 230 lbs


I have been lifting seriously for 21 years, and I intend to be in the Iron game until I am in the grave. If this drug protocol enables me to take what would be 3-5% annual gains in my main lifts and instead get 7-10% gains I would consider it a success.

In the past when I have run 8-12 week cycles I have had 2 major issues:
1 - mid-cycle wrist or finger or toe or other stupid injury interrupts cycle
2 - cycle is awesome and workouts are awesome, afterward however no workout is good enough for months and numbers fall back down and gains are hard to keep

I'm very interested in pre-cycle prep regarding nutrition, training and rest in the week or two leading into the cycle. If anyone could point me to good info that would be appreciated.

thanks for the time and wisdom

 

[Demondosage]

No offense, but these 2 week cycles are absolutely the dumbest thing Bill Roberts has ever put out there. Youre not gonna get shit from it, trust me

 

[ddp7]

No offense, but these 2 week cycles are absolutely the dumbest thing Bill Roberts has ever put out there. Youre not gonna get shit from it, trust me

what about 2 weeks of low/medium test with super high anavar like 100mg?
to fatloss and recomp

 

[Bjorn Turock]

So far so good, I've run one cycle and plan another next week.

I noticed massive improvements in raw strength, particularly with medium length sets - thus bigger increases in the 8-12 rep range than the 2-5 rep range. 8-14% increase in compound lifts.

I was trying to lean out but I slipped pretty bad on the diet due to a handful of family events, I dropped a pants size and my face leaned way out and people asked if I was losing weight... but I actually put on 15 lbs. This was cool and fun, but I don't need or want to be huge so I will need to adjust going forward.

The sides were absolutely nothing (except extra wood) until night 12 when I put a puddle on the bed, then one on the couch then another on the guest bed. It was ridiculous but only lasted 2 nights and the second night was not nearly as bad.

I felt like there was very very little regression after the cycle, my heavy lifts started feeling harder, but my cardio started feeling easier and performance held pretty solid. Libido and sense of well being were pretty much there straight through but I did notice a surge in libido ten days after or so, perhaps clomid?

I delayed starting round 2 for a bit due to wanting to lean out, busy at work, and family stuff, and a thumb injury, but now I'm ready to go again. I'm loving the flexibility and ability to regroup/assess/refocus.

 

[kataking]

Those short cycles may not be the greatest for body building but the East Germans did really well In Sports using 2 to 6 week cycles of nothing but oral turinabol.