Bioniche Test C/Test P/Genotropin

lightspan

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The eagle finally landed and it's time to take it in the ass. :) First cycle in over 5 years, keeping it relatively simple. 1 previous injectable Test E cycle, went from 198 to 223, and one PH cycle, gained maybe 10 lbs but felt so shitty i cut it short. Fuck PH, miserable experience.

Me:

6'2" (3 on a good day, yeah i'm squeezing an inch in on ya)
211
12ish % bf (4 pack)
meso says i'm 42. i'm not arguing, +/- a year.

Cycle:

1-12 250 mg Bioniche Test C e3d
13-15.5 100 mg Test P eod
17-21 Nolva (pharma) 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid (pharma) 100/50/25/25
3-16 HCG (pharma) 250 iu e3d
?-? Aromasin (pharma) 12.5 mg e3d (will not start unless i see estro sides, adjust as needed). May carry some aro into pct, from what i read it can prevent estro rebound when stopping the serms, still reading and deciding.

I may throw in var 60 mg/day weeks 12-15, depending on how I look at week 12.

For shits and giggles, 2 iu Genotropin (pfizer) ed (4 month run for now, depending on how my bank account looks, perhaps longer). GH is for my shoulder, injured in november, was basically sitting on my ass for two months then PT 3 months. Not looking for mass or bf cut with GH, strictly for support/healing.

Lifts, Training:

DL - 345 x 4
Bench 205 x 1 (with screaming, shoulder injury in november, still recovering hence the GH)
Squat - 285 x 2

4 day split - chest/tris, back/bis, legs, shoulders and whatever else needs attention
Rest (cardio)
1 day of compounds (oly lifts - clean variations, split/balance jerks, presses, etc.)
Rest (cardio)
Lift days end with 10-20 min of cardio, depending on how fried i am.
Rest day cardio is 20-30 mins, depending on how long i can stand the boredom.
Cardio is running, stairs, rowing, bike. i fucking hate cardio.

Diet - 3500 day target, 40/40/20 C/P/F whole foods and protein (whey isolates, hydro and casein)
fish oil, krill oil, flaxseed oil, CoQ10 (stopped lipitor for cycle, need to keep lipids in check with this and cardio), lots of green tea, glucosamine/chondroitin/msm. diet is pretty on point, i tend to cheat a bit but not to the point of hooking back a dozen glazed.

Pre-cycle bloods: TT 894 ng/dL (250-1100); FT 145.7 pg/mL (35.0-155.0).

not bad for an old man. did not get a full hormone panel despite telling the nurse about ten times i wanted a FULL hormone panel including e2, LH, FSH, etc. meh, i have test numbers, i know where i need to be. Will get labs at 6 weeks, things should be kicking by then.

first pin shortly. today was leg day, so i will be crippled tomorrow whether i have pip or not.
 
Dayyyyyumm!! That's a hell of a TT for any age let alone a man over 40!!

Having not cycled in 5 years I wouldn't be surprised to see a 30 pound gain with this cycle.. Good luck!!
 
Good luck man. Cycle looks great. Where is the Test P from? I have some Bioniche Sust300 I may run here shortly. I will be following.

I'm with JB on that...That's some nice ass TT.
 
I've got three different labs test p: Astro, Titan, and one non-meso source. I wanted bioniche for this run, everything but the test p is pharma. Holding out for pharma...I figure five years older and a bit wiser and better heeled, why not go pharma across the board? Treat myself, :)
 
First pin, upper right quad. The wife didn't want to stab my ass, so i did the honors. 1 " 25 g, smooth as butter going in, warmed the preloaded syringe up on a heating pad for a bit, and heated up my quad. Weirdly, i was a bit hesitant, but it's like riding a bike i suppose, you climb back on. I pulled a full ml, the Bioniche test c is 300 mg/ml, slight frontload, i overfilled pulling and said fuck it. Heading to the hot tub in a few to heat it up, and to try and ease my legs. Leg day. I'm hobbling anyway.

Let the gains begin.
 
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Before pictures. Yes, I am a hairy bastard. My legs show exactly why my squat is under 300. Will be hammering the shit out of my legs this cycle. The doms after leg day is ridiculous, can't wait for the test to kick in, so I can look forward to leg day. Judging from the pics of my back, I'm thinking 12% bf might be generous. 14 is probably more like it.
 

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That is a high natural test level , you might never need TRT . Dont fk it up , lol (and end up on TRT like me).
I'll be watching your log Lightspan , goodluck ~Ogh
 
I forgot about the impatience of the first 3 weeks. Staring at 6 vials of prop and a vial of suspension and thinking...hmm...
 
And...just pinned 1 ml of 100 mg/mL prop (Titan) into the left quad. Everything was nice and warmed with a heating pad. So weird, again I was hesitant about pinning. It's not rational. I stabbed away. I know some don't like quad injections, they are my fav. I'll run the cyp into my delt tomorrow, it's only 0.83 ml.

Will run 1 ml of the prop eod for 3 weeks. Taking first dose of aromasin (20 mg, Astro, my pharma is not here yet) today, the prop changes things up a bit. Looking forward to this, I haven't forgotten the fun of the first cycle.
 
It's all good bro I'm hairy mother fucker as well haha. But, you have pretty high test for you age. I'm pretty sure I will be on TRT by then :( but it's a choice I have made
 
Lol, yeah, I don't do "manscaping." I have an overkill pct for a simple test run, hoping to get the tt levels right back where they started. I'm thinking cycling once in a blue moon helps, my hpta had 5 years to recover from the last cycle. Not looking forward to PIP, hopefully Titan brewed his prop with loving care and pixie dust.

I like it. Let me know how you like the pharma oils, I'm going to pick some up and the price is relly good too!!

The cyp has zero pip, 1 ml in quad, 300 mg/ml. Loving it.
 
How does the 36iu Genotropin kit work? After you reconstitute it, will it keep the 2.5 weeks at your 2iu per day? Are you using BAC water to reconstitute?
 
I'll tell you when it gets here. :( Should be anytime between now and the end of my cycle.

The Genotropin insert is online as a pdf, it has schematics and instructions. It's a self-contained injection pen, two chamber system, solvent and peptide. You screw the pen together and they mix, it keeps for 30 days after reconstituting in the fridge. The pens are fine at 2-8 C for months unreconstituted. As long they don't sit in the heat for an extended period of time they are ok. If you buy them, use express mail.
 
Second long ester pin today, right quad. No pip from first pin there, so i hit it again. Left is pretty sore from the prop yesterday, which i chalk up to not pinning that quad in 5 years, and my first prop pin ever. Not looking forward to tomorrow's prop pin, but it will get better.

I got 100 mg/ml test suspension in water as a freebie with my last pack. Just for shits and giggles, i pinned 50 mg of it in my left delt about an hour before hitting the gym. Turns out i should've waited another hour to hit the gym, about half way through i noticed my biceps had the mother of all pumps. Still have it. Interesting stuff, a bit of pip, unnoticeable once i stared lifting. Had a bit of a headache, left my bp cuff at the office, but i'm pretty sure my bp spiked with the suspension. I have hawthorn berry, took some with the evening fish oil and glucosamine. Also have lisinopril in the event i need to keep the bp under control with something stronger.

Today was back/biceps, i felt a bit off, i hit the gym late so i was tired. When the suspension kicked in that was gone, and i felt cocky as fuck. Reminded me of the way i felt week 7-8 of my first cycle. Mrs. Lightspan will be giving up the butt tonight whether she likes it or not. :D
Still waiting on my GH to arrive, hope to have that tuesday.
 
Second prop pin, right delt. All you bros who pin this shit daily, my hat is off to you. The PIP sucks hot crusty goat balls. Tomorrow is leg day, hence the delt shot. Hopefully the left quad is cooperative. My knee was all funky after hobbling and favoring the quad from the last prop shot. Have a small meniscus tear in the left knee, favoring it made that flare up. I'll work through it.

Still blows me away the difference between cyp or enanthate and prop in terms of PIP. I can pump a ml of cyp or e into my quad and smile the whole time, zero pip. the prop is a motherfucker, as soon as it is in the muscle i can feel that shit. my pinning technique ain't the best, steadier hands would probably help. i'll go shove a tampon in now.

Funny thing is I hammered back yesterday, not sore at all. Just the PIP. Why doesn't that shit heal super fast too, huh?

Will do legs tomorrow morning, with another 50 mg of suspension before i hit the gym. Rawr motherfuckers.
 
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Legs today. Skipped the 50 mg of suspension preworkout because my knee was bugging me, didn't want to do something stupid and fuck it up worse. Also nice to have a day off pinning, i feel like a fucking pincushion. Knee is tweaky but hopefully will be fine for compound lifts on friday morning. Kept the weight reasonable today, squats at 225 were peachy.

I switched over to test e (Titan) 250 mg.ml last pin, the bioniche pharma test c is not pharma, and i want to ms it before pinning any more of it. I'm sure it's fine and dandy, i'm just a bit paranoid, someone put a lot of time, money and effort to make it look like pharma, makes me wonder if the money they spent on slick boxes and labels and whatnot might've cut the budget for what went into the vials. who knows? So now i'm running titan test p and test e. Bloodwork will be sooner in view of the prop, suggestions as to when to run bloodwork?

feeling the prop, the lack of doms is noticeable. i get severe doms, but i'm not even sore after legs this morning. i'm also eyeing every woman in sight. cockiness is persisting, and i am feeling pretty fucking good. i'll be starting every cycle henceforth with short esters, very pleased with the rapid onset.

gonna wreck shit tomorrow. shoulders. suspension pwo. mwahahahaahhhahah.
 
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