I'd love to utilize the black tops since they're such a good deal, but I'd have to find a way to manage that retention. Are you guys using dandelion root or something stronger?
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timmygainz4388
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I drink like a gallon and a half a day so hopefully that works
The water retention has nothing to do with the "brand" of generics, its from the GH. Most likely due to the fact the Black Tops are overdosed (when compared to their listed iu's/vial), by about 30% from what I recall. Pharma hGH will give you water retention, too.
To clarify, not the Black Tops in particular causing this.
Jeffg353
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Here's an article that explains what causes the bloating.
Epithelial sodium channel is a key mediator of growth hormone-induced sodium retention in acromegaly. - PubMed - NCBI
Epithelial sodium channel is a key mediator of growth hormone-induced sodium retention in acromegaly. - PubMed - NCBI
I hit that minimum
I hate that everyone's response is this. Lol. I dosed them at 15iu per vial, just as everyone else does. 2iu of a black top gives substantial more water retention and CTS than 4iu gh... For me at least
Sorry you hate it, but, Serostim have "fluid retention" as a possible, and common, side effect for it's usage in the pamphlet.. So, you're exempt from pharma's potential side effects, but the generic you are feeling is some other extraneous variable? Is it the color of the top? Maybe the box? Oh, maybe that it has Chinese air in the vials..?
What other "gh" are you comparing it to?
I'm saying I hate that people say "they're over dosed" assuming that others are not treating them as 15iu vials.
My comparison is Grey tops. My friend runs genotropin that's directly obtained and for him, he had to drop the black tops because they were making his hands useless at 5iu whereas 8iu genotropin still some water retention for sure, but much more manageable and less CTS
Comparing one generic, to another, in regards to potential sides really isn't helpful, I'm sure you can see why.
I'm not even going to factor in your friend here, as the game of telephone/"my friend did this, or that" doesn't really matter in anyway. Who knows if he's even storing his genos properly? Anyway, doesn't matter.
CTS/water retention is a side effect of hGH, regardless of what your prior experiences have, and have not, been.
I drink anywhere from a gallon to 2 gallons a day as well. Unless I'm drinking like a double ipa. Then its up to a gallon, but no more.
timmygainz4388
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So does the water retention go away as you get ised to it or?? I was told that gh leans you out but if you get alot of water how is that leaning you out?
Leaning our refers to burning fat. From my understanding that's why you cut gh when you are nearing a show since it makes you hold water
Jeffg353
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm almost through with my first kit of the Greys and am holding a lot of water in my feet and ankles. The other sides have become less severe like the tightness/numbness/tingling in my hands and CTS are almost unnoticeable
