Blast & cruise pros and cons

[rjx]

Blast and cruise is imo a cool title users made up to make never coming off gear sound better or less dangerous. Some guys cruise with low doses of tren or other AAS, not just test.

To me, a more responsible way to blast and cruise would be on a trt dose most of the time, with an occasional reasonably dosed cycle here and there. Nothing outrageous. Seems that many bros think outrageous doses translates into outrageous gains. Not true. Our bodies are only capable of building so much muscle at once regardless of how much gear we use. Our goals should be to get the reasonable results we want with the minimal amount of gear.

 

[rjx]

I'm not interested in crazy cycles with multi juice cocktails and get huge; just want to look hot naked

Then you DON'T NEED AAS for that. Stay natty.

Contrary to what many guys might think, the majority of woman don't prefer men with low bodyfat and big bulging muscles. If you only want to look good naked, you can get some decent size without looking like a freak, low bodyfat, six pack, etc, without gear.

 

[wedorecover]

Blast and cruise is imo a cool title users made up to make never coming off gear sound better or less dangerous. Some guys cruise with low doses of tren or other AAS, not just test.

To me, a more responsible way to blast and cruise would be on a trt dose most of the time, with an occasional reasonably dosed cycle here and there. Nothing outrageous. Seems that many bros think outrageous doses translates into outrageous gains. Not true. Our bodies are only capable of building so much muscle at once regardless of how much gear we use. Our goals should be to get the reasonable results we want with the minimal amount of gear.

I agree with this I'm running low does cycles now and never felt better

 

[androgenics89]

I agree with this I'm running low does cycles now and never felt better

This is something I'm considering for my upcoming cycle. A few compounds low dose. 175 test prop/wk, 200 Tren/wk, 10mg dbol, 2-300 mast/wk. As opposed to my usual 600 test/wk 50dbol/day. Honestly Not entirely sure it's considered a light cycle with that many compounds, even at low doses.

 

[wedorecover]

This is something I'm considering for my upcoming cycle. A few compounds low dose. 175 test prop/wk, 200 Tren/wk, 10mg dbol, 2-300 mast/wk. As opposed to my usual 600 test/wk 50dbol/day. Honestly Not entirely sure it's considered a light cycle with that many compounds, even at low doses.

I'm even running low dose one compound cycles test always as a base I'm only running 375 npp 450 suston then I'll switch to something like 300 suston 400 tren

 

[Leancuisine]

If only there was a way to maintain your testicular fortitude on cycle.... I feel like there might be something for that. Feel like it starts with an H and has a C, or maybe even a G in there.
Ah well, can't remember. Sorry bro.

 

[master.on]

while "short term" cruising (1 year) ain't that dangerous
IMO the biggest danger comes from cruising making steroids less effective, needing higher dosages everytime to break thru plateau.

Besides allowing natural T production to recover, cycling allows to regain sensitivity to steroids.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

while "short term" cruising (1 year) ain't that dangerous
IMO the biggest danger comes from cruising making steroids less effective, needing higher dosages everytime to break thru plateau.

Besides allowing natural T production to recover, cycling allows to regain sensitivity to steroids.

That again...

For the last time, steroids don't get less effective over time.
It's just that you will reach a set weight point that corresponds to a certain AAS dosage. And to go beyond that weight you will have to increase the dosage.

But same AAS dosage = same effects over time = same weight

 

[JC456]

That again...

For the last time, steroids don't get less effective over time.
It's just that you will reach a set weight point that corresponds to a certain AAS dosage. And to go beyond that weight you will have to increase the dosage.

But same AAS dosage = same effects over time = same weight

There is desensitisation (not downregulation which is different). However a 2-3 month cruise can generally set you up to gain well again.

 

[Leancuisine]

No your body does not get desensitized to test. I've run 5 cycles, 4 of which were at 200mg test, 500mg mast and I made incredible results off that. Why does that cycle still work if I get desensitized?
It's exactly what stronger said. The more weight you put on, the more steroid that is required to push past your genetic potential.
It's just the same with food. You can't expect to keep eating 3000 calories and continue gaining weight. You have to change according to your new TDEE.

 

[JC456]

No your body does not get desensitized to test. I've run 5 cycles, 4 of which were at 200mg test, 500mg mast and I made incredible results off that. Why does that cycle still work if I get desensitized?
It's exactly what stronger said. The more weight you put on, the more steroid that is required to push past your genetic potential.
It's just the same with food. You can't expect to keep eating 3000 calories and continue gaining weight. You have to change according to your new TDEE.

You cycled, presumably between cycles you either cruised at a low dose or came off? That's when resensitisation occurs. The lower dose allows resensitisation to occur.

It's the continuous blast upon blast which you really only see in people who blast and cruise where we see desensitisation. It's not something you're going to see if you cycle because when you come off you resensitise. For those who blast and cruise, it's either option 1) keep increasing the dose or 2) blast then cruise at a low dose for a sufficient period. Option 1 obviously has a finite cap (you can't increase forever) so option 2 is what happens.

If you match your cruise periods with cutting bodyfat, lowering overall training volume you will be resensitised on multiple levels ready for a great and productive blast. That's how it works.

 

[Leancuisine]

You cycled, presumably between cycles you either cruised at a low dose or came off? That's when resensitisation occurs. The lower dose allows resensitisation to occur.

It's the continuous blast upon blast which you really only see in people who blast and cruise where we see desensitisation. It's not something you're going to see if you cycle because when you come off you resensitise. For those who blast and cruise, it's either option 1) keep increasing the dose or 2) blast then cruise at a low dose for a sufficient period. Option 1 obviously has a finite cap (you can't increase forever) so option 2 is what happens.

If you match your cruise periods with cutting bodyfat, lowering overall training volume you will be resensitised on multiple levels ready for a great and productive blast. That's how it works.

I can see where you are coming from.
Honest question though... so if I cruise on 150mg of test a week, I feel fine and can hold on to most my strength. But if someone is cruising on 500mg of test, they are presumably much larger than I am, and would probably NEED the 500mg to hold on to their size. I don't think its so much a desensitized issue as it is a mental aspect of not having the superman feeling, or a fear of losing their size if they dropped down to 150mg.

I could be wrong, and I see where your point would make sense, but I just don't think test is ever lost potency. Otherwise wouldn't people on TRT have to Up their dose every year or so?

 

[JC456]

I can see where you are coming from.
Honest question though... so if I cruise on 150mg of test a week, I feel fine and can hold on to most my strength. But if someone is cruising on 500mg of test, they are presumably much larger than I am, and would probably NEED the 500mg to hold on to their size. I don't think its so much a desensitized issue as it is a mental aspect of not having the superman feeling, or a fear of losing their size if they dropped down to 150mg.

I could be wrong, and I see where your point would make sense, but I just don't think test is ever lost potency. Otherwise wouldn't people on TRT have to Up their dose every year or so?

On your first point, I totally agree with you. I'm cruising on 175 EW and I'm not exactly small. I will maintain all my muscle but I'll definitely lose the look. I know guys who are legitimately 30lbs heavier than me who have cruised on the same dose for months and lost no muscle tissue. Hell even naturals are hard pressed to lose actual muscle tissue as long as they're training and eating sufficient protein even through the harshest diets. I tend to think muscle loss is greatly exaggerated and as you rightly pointed out, too much emphasis is placed on the 'look'.

On your second point, that's a good question. Rather than think of it as a scale, where the longer you're on the more you desensitise, think of it instead as there are certain 'safe zones' where you can sit and resensitise (and gain back health markers and maintain muscle) these safe zones are closer to our natural testosterone levels. Anything superphysiological (your typical 500 to 1000 cyclist) will have diminishing returns over time.

This is why I discourage people from front loading, and encourage to increase doses over the period of their blast. Then cruise at true trt levels for a sensible amount of time.

 

[Leancuisine]

On your first point, I totally agree with you. I'm cruising on 175 EW and I'm not exactly small. I will maintain all my muscle but I'll definitely lose the look. I know guys who are legitimately 30lbs heavier than me who have cruised on the same dose for months and lost no muscle tissue. Hell even naturals are hard pressed to lose actual muscle tissue as long as they're training and eating sufficient protein even through the harshest diets. I tend to think muscle loss is greatly exaggerated and as you rightly pointed out, too much emphasis is placed on the 'look'.

On your second point, that's a good question. Rather than think of it as a scale, where the longer you're on the more you desensitise, think of it instead as there are certain 'safe zones' where you can sit and resensitise (and gain back health markers and maintain muscle) these safe zones are closer to our natural testosterone levels. Anything superphysiological (your typical 500 to 1000 cyclist) will have diminishing returns over time.

This is why I discourage people from front loading, and encourage to increase doses over the period of their blast. Then cruise at true trt levels for a sensible amount of time.

I see what you are saying.
You said a huge determining factor there about the guy weighing 30lbs heavier and using the same dose. Nutrition.
Guess a lot of people rely on drugs vs nutrition. I see a lot of that.

 

[master.on]

Many bigger guys and pros CRUISE at 1-2g T
they always cruise on T only and not other steroids
maybe there's less desensitization with T