[Bloodwork] AP Test E + Hoyt GH

[dmt31]

I was running what looked to be bunk or unbelievably underdosed Test E from Phalanx before they packed up shop. I was on for 3 or so weeks. After my labmax I switched over to AP Test E I had stashed and I also reordered some to finish my cycle off. I was on TRT for many months before this cycle started as well.

My dosing was M/W/Sa, 250mg each time, for 750mg/wk. I was about 2 and half weeks or so into my AP Test E run at time of blood draw. Blood drawn on monday morning, last pin saturday afternoon.

After thinking about it some more, I still don't know what to think. I have seen some people post bloods up from that Phalanx batch but they only got the test that shows 1500> as the cap, so who knows how underdosed it really was. I would assume that after being on Test E for over 5 weeks, I'd have a decent concentration of the ester built up, but maybe that Phalanx shit was just total garbage. I am going to continue to run this for another 4 weeks, get bloods redone and we will see for sure at that point how properly or not-properly dosed this AP Test E is. I just did this so we can have more info to work off of, especially because I'm on TRT, maybe we can determine if going from a TRT/Cruise dose has any effect on how long it takes for you to reach peak levels on cycle.

I'm just more curious than anything. If the ester is the same, should it matter? Meaning, if I have 4 different vials of test e, from 4 different sources, as long as they are all the same ester, why would it matter if I take one injection from each vial each week? Do we have any data on this or has anybody seen any data? I'm actually just genuinely curious.

For all intents and purposes though, I'm going to assume that I just started cycle, took my 2 week bloods, and will again take my 6 week bloods to see what, if any difference there is. I will at that time be on HGHPower's Kefeis as well, so I'll take another GH serum test at the same time.

Oh.. and the Hoyt GH is pretty shitty, as I knew it was after running it for a few days. I did the standard 10iu in right delt IM, 3 hours, get blood draw. At least there is SOMETHING in there, but fuck, it's pretty much not even worth it. I might just run 20iu a day until it's done just get some feeling out of it.

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[devildog93]

The problem i see with running gear from 4 separate sources and then getting bloods is not being able to narrow down who the crap batch is from if they come back low. We'll see what it looks like at week 5+, but what if the numbers still come in at 4x or something like that? How will you know which supplier is killing your numbers?

 

[dmt31]

The problem i see with running gear from 4 separate sources and then getting bloods is not being able to narrow down who the crap batch is from if they come back low. We'll see what it looks like at week 5+, but what if the numbers still come in at 4x or something like that? How will you know which supplier is killing your numbers?

No, I get that, maybe I didn't explain clearly. I'm fucking exhausted haven't slept much the past few days for personal reasons.

I am not taking 4 different sources Test and injecting it, sorry if it came across that way. I am only use one source of Test E. I was just trying to raise the question as to does it really matter if you switch source half way through a cycle, as long as the ester is the same, shouldn't you already have the neccessary amount of the ester in your blood to have proper concentration levels?

But, that said, I'm 3 weeks and a few days into my AP run as of today, will run it for another 3 weeks and get bloods drawn again and that should be good enough to give us proper numbers and we at least have numbers to compare to now as well.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

No, I get that, maybe I didn't explain clearly. I'm fucking exhausted haven't slept much the past few days for personal reasons.

I am not taking 4 different sources Test and injecting it, sorry if it came across that way. I am only use one source of Test E. I was just trying to raise the question as to does it really matter if you switch source half way through a cycle, as long as the ester is the same, shouldn't you already have the neccessary amount of the ester in your blood to have proper concentration levels?

But, that said, I'm 3 weeks and a few days into my AP run as of today, will run it for another 3 weeks and get bloods drawn again and that should be good enough to give us proper numbers and we at least have numbers to compare to now as well.

Yea, it shouldn't matter.. 3 weeks should be more than enough time to get a good read after switching.. I'd be interested to see how much they go up in a few more weeks to confirm what I think but personally I wouldn't waste my time with it..

Sorry about your numbers.

 

[dmt31]

Yea, it shouldn't matter.. 3 weeks should be more than enough time to get a good read after switching.. I'd be interested to see how much they go up in a few more weeks to confirm what I think but personally I wouldn't waste my time with it..

Sorry about your numbers.

Meh, its ok... Yeah I am of the mind that it should have been enough time too, but I want to give it a fair shot, and also i think it's good data to have. If my numbers are exactly the same then we at least have more info... But in my heart I want to jump ship and start running this Iso-Vet shit I just got in.

 

[Johnson513]

Thanks for testing brother... I feel like the switch to the new Avitar should at least lower your E2 numbers by 35% compared to you Kayne pic..... [emoji6]


On a serious note, I'm not gonna state the obvious but I too am curious to see the next bloods... I'm sure the Alpha-pharm patrol will be around shortly...

 

[Flounder]

There seems to be a lot of interest in AP lately so you getting those 6 week labs would be a good thing for Meso. Thanks for getting labs done bro. Much appreciated.
Oh yeah save that iso-vet for your next blast or at least after the results of the 6 week labs.

 

[dmt31]

There seems to be a lot of interest in AP lately so you getting those 6 week labs would be a good thing for Meso. Thanks for getting labs done bro. Much appreciated.
Oh yeah save that iso-vet for your next blast or at least after the results of the 6 week labs.

yeah, i'm going to bite the bullet and keep running my AP and getting bloods redone. I'm throwing some prop for a couple of weeks just because if it is complete shit like it looks like it might be I don't want to waste my cycle. I'll stop the prop a week before my blood draw so it should't impact my levels.

I just made a fairly large order with iso, hopefully it's as good as everyone says it is, looking forward to running his shit next cycle in the spring.

 

[insertnamehere]

Thanks for doing blood work @dmt31 .

You have to do whats right for you but to me running the prop adds a variable that can cause speculation and doubt. What if the prop isn't really prop? Or its contaminated with test-c or e?

 

[dmt31]

Thanks for doing blood work @dmt31 .

You have to do whats right for you but to me running the prop adds a variable that can cause speculation and doubt. What if the prop isn't really prop? Or its contaminated with test-c or e?

It's MikeStrong's prop, which seems to be the only product of his along with his TPP that didn't have any issues. I understand your point, but I really can't burn through this whole cycle without getting anythign out of it. I will think about it some more though tonight, but I feel like this shouldn't be an issue

 

[dmt31]

Thanks for doing blood work @dmt31 .

You have to do whats right for you but to me running the prop adds a variable that can cause speculation and doubt. What if the prop isn't really prop? Or its contaminated with test-c or e?

I should also mention, I was running MS prop during this run as well, but stopped about 10 days before the test was done. I plan on doing the same thing, there is no way prop is going to show up 7 days after last pin, let alone 10 days, and if it does it would just be trace amounts from everything I've seen and read. If it showing up, then this Test E is in really really bad shape lol.

I'm scared to think of how my cycle would be right now if I hadn't been running prop. It's been a noticeable difference in everything cycle related since I stopped taking the prop. Again, I'll just do teh same thing, get the numbers, and we'll see how it looks. I should have mentioned that to begin with, thats my fault, I was so tired and frustrated I completely forgot about it.