RandallFlagg
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I think you read the reference range all the way to the right side (Negative is normal). His trace reading is abnormal...could just be some contamination BUT I would recommend urine culture and UACR at minimum.
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BlackVeil
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Online says 1.4 is mildly elevated.
Could it just be inflammation from the tren?
I drink water constantly through the day, by 9am I have a 1.5L finished, and generally my 2nd finished by 1pm.
Dinner I finish another 1.5L, and then during the night (as I wake up to pee few times) I will finish another 1.5L before morning.
Every 1.5L has the same 10G creatine, 1 scoop hydration powder.
see you're right and this is why i hate reading other peoples bloodwork.
i am not putting contact lenses in unless im going outside so im near sighted on this forum.
BALLISTIC
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@BlackVeil family and nurse says this after looking at your labs again. "Lipids are more of a long-term risk, being addressed by everyone, the rapid decline in GFR is something I’d want to address sooner than later."
Nearly 30points is what she would address first if you came in to her hospital. Based off all the surrounding criteria.
She is asking if you have foamy urine? Like first thing upon waking or any other time during the day. Bubbles that fill the bowl and don't rapidly disappear. Also a general idea of color? She assuming you're pissing more orange-ish. Also does your urine seem to gravitate to the bottom of the bowl separating from the water.
Nearly 30points is what she would address first if you came in to her hospital. Based off all the surrounding criteria.
She is asking if you have foamy urine? Like first thing upon waking or any other time during the day. Bubbles that fill the bowl and don't rapidly disappear. Also a general idea of color? She assuming you're pissing more orange-ish. Also does your urine seem to gravitate to the bottom of the bowl separating from the water.
adrenalytic
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Man, I really hope you're on the pro stage with those doses my dude.
Nick? Is that you? stop being so stubborn and hire a coach!
jk jk, I hope you get this sorted out my friend.
RandallFlagg
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Ok...I certainly think there is a decent chance your kidneys are fine.
But in theory if everything is working as it should, your Cystatin C and Creat should be normal with that specific gravity. Buuuut, you have a lot of pharmaceuticals influencing things so that is probably raising the CRP and your lipids.
The problem is your blood vessels are impacted by those lipids. There are many many many areas that do not enjoy getting endothelial inflammation (heart,. kidneys, liver) long term.
Do I think you are dying? No more than the rest of us. But you are taking years off your life if you continue down this path.
I also think if you cut back on the AAS and add in some lipid altering meds, you could easily post blood work in a year that is completely normal.
his crp with range of 0-3 is hs-crp which measures inflammation in the arteries. its normal for it to be inflammed with his high cholesterol but not suggesting alot of damage yet with it only being a little out of range.
crp getting raised like normal inflammation due to liver would be above 10mg with normal crp numbers. we wouldnt look at arteries here
the hs-crp numbers is caused by the cholesterol and does not measure his inflammation in his body like normal crp would
RandallFlagg
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Oh totally...no argument there.
It's just another piece of the puzzle that should really say "shit....I should stop before i die decades earlier than I should have."
This lab work is concerning but easily fixable with some common sense modifications that will involve getting the totally anabolic load back down into the mgs range. (Without 4 digits, that is)
BlackVeil
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Can’t say I really noticed, “bubbles that fill the bowl and don’t disappear”
Having orange pee on tren is par the course, but I do pee clear, idk 40% of the time.
No on separation.
I just went pee right now and I can confirm, will fill the bowl with bubbles but they will rapidly disappear.
my weird natural friend once asked me if there comes bubbles if i pee and i thought he was weird as fuck, i think its normal if they dont stay although im not knowledgeable on bubbles in pee LMAO
BlackVeil
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I always thought bubbles just meant you had high protein in your diet but I can’t even remember where I read that or even if its true anymore lol
bananafeet
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No it means there is protien in your urine. But your urine sample didn't test positive for urine.
Like everyone else has said your kidneys are stressed. Continuing like this is probably not recommended.
You said your igf1 was normal. Keep in mind elevated igf1 can hide impaired kidney function through hyperfiltration. But the lack of protien in your urine is a good sign.
BlackVeil
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Well I kind of guessed it wasn’t recommended when people said my kidneys were dying lol
Pretty much the bulk is gonna be put on hold… i just hit saturation levels too, the glorious bulk of 2026 I was gonna go on… such is life.
I think its the tren just fucking me, problem is I love tren… and get into this feeling of continually just wanting more and more when I am on it.
I might see, if everything recovers off it, just running npp in its place, see if I handle that better.
BALLISTIC
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Understood, her advice is as everyone else has stated take care of your lipids. Drop the gear to simply T and lower iu of hgh. You should be fine maintaining. Hydrate well and stay that way. Give workouts a break minimal 7 days to help prevent additional stress and breakdown of tissue burdening the kidneys further.
If anything you're more than likely having acute kidney stress, but if you continue you'll slide into acute kidney injury more than likely. She said it's more compounding then references ranges and the questions asked were to help clarify for her insight. Advised pulling labs again in a few weeks to see if your still declining, or improving, as often with kidneys they can reach a point where they give up even once stressors are removed. If you are declining she recommend a hospital visit, to at minimum get on fluids and flush the kidneys with further evaluation.
Good luck to you my man and Merry Christmas.
BlackVeil
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is there a set of tests she recommends getting just for checking the kidneys vs getting a full panel again?
Thanks for the insight man, i appreciate it, and I appreciate every one who has commented helping me out.
Marry Christmas to you as well.
go to the doctor and say your left side at the rib cage has a very sharp pain your urine has bubbles and you have grandmother who had kidney disease.
should pass bullshit check with bubbles in your urine
bananafeet
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Yes the standard test is a urine ACR. It will rule out kidney damage. This number is placed into a kidney calculator:
eGFR Calculator
Tren is dopaminergic so it's habit forming. I experience the same struggles.
Maybe switch to a slower ester which will be less habit forming.
Slowww
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orange pee is not normal on tren ?? Since when is that mormal bro
BALLISTIC
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At minimum repeat these...
Serum creatinine, eGFR creatinine based, Cystatin C, Basic urinalysis checking protein and blood, BMP markers for electrolytes, and BUN, CBC hematocrit, CRP
Add these additions...
Urine Albumin Creatinine Ratio, Urine Protein Creatinine Ratio, Creatine Kinase, Serum urine myoglobin.
"He can repeat the labs he did, but things like lipids and such won't change at all in a short period. These will give him focus on the kidneys. Right now his labs show reduced filtration they don’t tell him what kind of kidney problem. Faalling gfr with albumin leakage is much more concerning than a falling gfr alone. Tubular injury and glomerular disease can be seen. If ck is elevated, kidney issue could secondary, not primary. Basically this will hhelp show temporary kidney stress from injury. They show whether he's leaking protein and muscle breakdown is contributing whether the decline in gfr is stabilizing or progressing.”
Hey dude she's family and here till January 9th, leaning on the 10th. She offered to look them over again if completed by then. So little over 3 weeks she says get them and it's no problem, if she's gone I can forward and she'll right you back.
Edit: Asking if you check Bp regularity in the am. Status of that also.
