MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Bloodwork on 200mg/week test c, no AI
- Thread starter Jbagel132
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theotherguy
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6x response is good. I don’t think your E2 is so high you need to start blasting AI. Although it likely wouldn’t hurt to use a little bit. My advice would be to watch for E2 sides creeping in. How’s your BP? I would probably let that dictate my AI use more than anything (my BP shoots up if I hold too much water)
amindzeye
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Why would he need to risk crashing his E2 at that range? Mine was close to 200 without gyno, or emotional problems. From what I've read, being in the 50s is fine with Test being at supraphysiological levels.
theotherguy
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That was why I said don’t start blasting AI and that a little “wouldn’t hurt” and that he should watch for E2 sides. I keep my E2 in the 30’s-40’s at 1100 ng/dL with .25 mg anastrazole 2x/wk with no issues.
Please pay attention to the nuance of what I’m saying.
amindzeye
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I just stated that because his "little bit" could be different than your "little bit".
Iron_Yuppie
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Are you having side effects related to high e2? If yes then use an AI. If no then do nothing. AI is for treating symptoms not numbers.
^Seconded.
theotherguy
Well-known Member
That’s fair. I too often assume people are well spoken or educated on what they’re putting in their bodies, but then I forget about all of those noobs coming through haha.
@Jfire132 just so you know, @Iron_Yuppie nailed the response
Theworm
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I would correct the E2...
Studies show guys live longer if estrogen is in the 20-30 range. Higher than 30, there was higher mortality. I think treat the symptoms are dogmatic. I treat my cholesterol, BP, etc even though I have no symptoms. I know apples and oranges but why not? I use .25 arimidex twice a week and my numbers were just like the OP, now my E2 is 25
Studies show guys live longer if estrogen is in the 20-30 range. Higher than 30, there was higher mortality. I think treat the symptoms are dogmatic. I treat my cholesterol, BP, etc even though I have no symptoms. I know apples and oranges but why not? I use .25 arimidex twice a week and my numbers were just like the OP, now my E2 is 25
BP as of just now is 120/75, only possible side is the acne, but ultimately I am discounting that as well because it flared up when on blast. Taking 20mg EOD accutane to rectify it and will most likely just take that indefinitely. I always thought the general consensus was to get E2 as high as possible without experiencing sides.
FortyFiveLbs
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UGL or Pharma Accutane? Curious as I have UGL tabs on hand to run, but I’m unsure whether I should just try it out or pay for Pharma and wait for it to land.
Pharma Accutane, now doing 20mg ED, have taken 320mg so far. Shoulder and trap acne is still there but the area is drying up and definitely starting to improve. Face is no longer oily. Only sides I’ve noticed are dry lips and eyes. The dry lips are easily managed with Aquaphor though so I’m good.
My e2 got down to 22 when running 350mg/400mg primo. I didn’t like it, towards the end of the blast my knees felt so dry I couldn’t even squat heavy. Dropped down to my cruise of 200mg test per week and I’m adding weight to the bar like crazy again. That said, if I ever bring my test up above 200mg/week again, rather than using an AI I would just throw in some primo since that seemed to really suppress e2 for me.
