[Bloodwork] Valkyrie Labs, Test C 250

[Gramps]

Here's my lab results using Valkyrie Test C 250 at 200mg per week for 6 weeks with blood drawn at 61 hours due to major issues (don't ask, life sucks). As I expected due to bloating and emotions, my E2 is ridiculous so I'm looking for input there, but there's some other faults I'm concerned with as you'll see. I'll be researching those but really need advice on best approach to E2.

I plan to lower the test a bit to be on the high end of normal and add an AI for starters, but looking for recommendations.

Just a heads up which may be involved, I do have Spastic Paraparesis (spinal condition resulting in loss of leg use), degenerative joint disease, and other muscular skeletal issues.

 

[I_know_nothing]

thanks for the post. can you edit in height, age, weight, and dosing frequency?

 

[Gramps]

Started with total test at 291
Age: between 45 and 50
Height: 6'2"
Weight: started with 250ish, touch testosterone, I slam on 15-20 pounds every fucking time, so I knew had to be E2 related
Dosing on Wednesdays at .8ml for 200mg advertised so I expected 1400 on the low side (7x) and am actually content with the results since it's UGL. It's not 10x and this ain't Mayberry.

 

[I_know_nothing]

1400 at 200mg does not seem bad at all. especially considering you're a bigger guy. another member who is 6'3 260lbs tested at 4x with watson.

 

[Gramps]

Honestly, I've never really seen any reference to size and that kinda amazes me. It seems totally gear dependent and a person's reaction to testosterone as far as I've seen. It looks like you can slap 100mg in a dwarf and get similar results out of Andre the Giant. Funny how that works.

 

[I_know_nothing]

i think it depends on a variety of factors. and while i have no proof about the size one, think about it like this: the TT is reported as a concentration ng/dL. ng of TT per dL of blood. think about how much blood a 100lb guy has compared to 300lb andre? For sake of simplicity let's say 7 liters for the 100lb guy and 10 liters for 300 andre, if you dissolve 500mg into 7 liters and 10 liters you would have a different concentration? of course it is not that simple at all because we have to take into account bio-availability, receptor sites, etc etc but you get the main point..

 

[MoriorInvictus]

I would suggest getting some Adex to lower your estro, if you are still running your Test C.

 

[MoriorInvictus]

@I_know_nothing GTFO!!!!

 

[Oregongearhead]

So what do we know about Valkrie ?, besides the fact they showed up advertising on the Meso right-hand banner ....

Is funds sent to a Euro/Slovic account ?

 

[Oregongearhead]

Here's my lab results using Valkyrie Test C 250 at 200mg per week for 6 weeks with blood drawn at 61 hours due to major issues (don't ask, life sucks). As I expected due to bloating and emotions, my E2 is ridiculous so I'm looking for input there, but there's some other faults I'm concerned with as you'll see. I'll be researching those but really need advice on best approach to E2.

I plan to lower the test a bit to be on the high end of normal and add an AI for starters, but looking for recommendations.

Just a heads up which may be involved, I do have Spastic Paraparesis (spinal condition resulting in loss of leg use), degenerative joint disease, and other muscular skeletal issues.

If you got 1400ng off of 200mg after 61hrs then you would have even higher readings at 48hrs out....

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Yea , agreed OGH I wouldn't be disappointed with those #s .

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

You put an a lot of information out there Gramps shouldn't some of that be blacked out?

 

[Gramps]

If you got 1400ng off of 200mg after 61hrs then you would have even higher readings at 48hrs out....

Yep. I wanted 48 hours, but the day to get that involved someone's birthday. The other select day involved a punk with a knife (he lost, that's the end of that discussion). So, 61 hours and I'll have to deal with the difference in timing. I'm good with 1364 at 61 hours at 200 at this point and will be lowering that a tad once I do the math.

 

[Gramps]

You put an a lot of information out there Gramps shouldn't some of that be blacked out?

Nothing I'm real concerned with. MY info is gone. The labs aren't anywhere near me.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Ok. If you're comfortable with it I would have blacked out the clinc address and time drawn date and such but that's probably me just being overly cautious I guess.

 

[Gramps]

*My* clinic address isn't on there. Time was left for verification. If anyone wants to track me down THAT bad and think they can make my life ANY worse, good fucking luck and have at it!

OK, let's steer this thing back on track: I'm questioning the E2 and looking for good references on dosing and such there, plus the Eosinophils bullshit - am I going to fucking die, or can this be blamed on all the shit God blessed me with? The FSH I'm only a little bothered by. The day when hair loss is my BIG concern, well, that's a good day so let's focus on the other 2 above!

 

[devildog93]

I'm with the other guys on the bloods. Seems like you hit the jackpot all things considered. I guess the right term would be "good enough" . I hope it stays that way.

 

[I_know_nothing]

*My* clinic address isn't on there. Time was left for verification. If anyone wants to track me down THAT bad and think they can make my life ANY worse, good fucking luck and have at it!

OK, let's steer this thing back on track: I'm questioning the E2 and looking for good references on dosing and such there, plus the Eosinophils bullshit - am I going to fucking die, or can this be blamed on all the shit God blessed me with? The FSH I'm only a little bothered by. The day when hair loss is my BIG concern, well, that's a good day so let's focus on the other 2 above!

E2- I recommend using Aromasin over adex, as asin is a suicide-inhibitor and it's harder to crash your estro on asin. references on dosing i can look around, but your body is going to react differently than anyone else. start at 12.5mg EOD and see how you feel, maybe do bloods again to get an even better idea. personally i like to go from 12.5 EOD to 25mg EOD rather than going from 12.5 EOD to 12.5ED, it has to do with the half-life of asin

Eos levels- what else are you on right now? amphetamines (EC stack), antibiotics and i've heard clen can raise your Eos levels. do you have asthma? any allergic reactions recently before taking the bloods? did you drink beforehand? these can all increase your levels

FSH- your FSH is going to be at or near 0. you are shut down so your LH and FSH should both be essentially 0.

 

[Oregongearhead]

The only thing I would be concerned with is the high normal creatinine , although when you off cycle it should be lower , mine is the same. Your LH and FSH were shutdown so you are minorly cycling here. 1400ng is out of range on alot of testosterone tests...
(ref-range 325-1197ng)

You definitely need an AI like Arimidex low dose if your gonna low cycle , although my E-2 has been in the 130"s before ....The Eosinophils should also return to normal when you bring the test doses down....

 

[Gramps]

I take 2 pills twice daily on extra strength exedrin for pain. No smoking, no dope, no drinking - no reason, I just don't. I have no intentions of running a minor cycle. I plan to shoot for 700-1000 total T. By reading I figured my estro was jacked before ever touching T. I just want to put together a game plan and run bloods again at 6-8 weeks.