[Bloodwork] Valkyrie Labs, Test C 250

[I_know_nothing]

lmao not only do you not get what you pay for in potency, you dont get what you pay for in volume either

what i dont understand is why dont sources label it at 100-150mg/mL, 8mL in a vial and price it cheap. then dose it 300, put in 10mL, still make good money and you wont be called out as hard on underdosed, underfilled, expensive gear...

 

[The Roman]

what i dont understand is why dont sources label it at 100-150mg/mL, 8mL in a vial and price it cheap. then dose it 300, put in 10mL, still make good money and you wont be called out as hard on underdosed, underfilled, expensive gear...

because there are enough idiots out there who will buy gear labeled "test 400" that only contains 100mg/ml, never get bloodwork, and tell all their friends about the great gains they're getting simply from placebo. shit i think the reason my lifts shot up so fast when i started training again is because i THOUGHT i was using 500mg of test when it was really only 180mg. at least i can say i hit a 500 squat on nothing but a TRT dose? rofl

 

[Gramps]

Back up a minute. This is where bullshit rumors get started. Who said anything about this being under dosed? Actually, it's pretty spot on for UGL and yeah, I'm as surprised as anyone, but the numbers point that out. 1396 at 200mg is right at 7x which is on the decent side of a UGL scale. I won't stand up and say "this is the shit to get", but making up shit about it being bunk doesn't apply here. Keep it accurate. Now if you want to bask the .9ml, or one vial having a batch # and date while the other was blank, knock your selves out, but let's not be guilty of making shit up and all of us looking bad.

 

[rpbb]

Back up a minute. This is where bullshit rumors get started. Who said anything about this being under dosed? Actually, it's pretty spot on for UGL and yeah, I'm as surprised as anyone, but the numbers point that out. 1396 at 200mg is right at 7x which is on the decent side of a UGL scale. I won't stand up and say "this is the shit to get", but making up shit about it being bunk doesn't apply here. Keep it accurate. Now if you want to bask the .9ml, or one vial having a batch # and date while the other was blank, knock your selves out, but let's not be guilty of making shit up and all of us looking bad.

From what I can tell, if you don't get gear from the super secret sources on this site, it must be bunk, underdosed, contaminated, dosed with estrogen, or just plain oil. I've seen people here claim that Watson purchased from the drugstore is fake. And if someone doors get good blood work, it must be faked

 

[The Roman]

From what I can tell, if you don't get gear from the super secret sources on this site, it must be bunk, underdosed, contaminated, dosed with estrogen, or just plain oil. I've seen people here claim that Watson purchased from the drugstore is fake. And if someone doors get good blood work, it must be faked

the watson thing was because some guy decided to get bloodwork drawn at 24 instead of 48 hours. but yes there are a lot of conspiracy theorists on this site. idk why some of them even bother to use gear if they're convinced its all fake lol

 

[I_know_nothing]

Back up a minute. This is where bullshit rumors get started. Who said anything about this being under dosed? Actually, it's pretty spot on for UGL and yeah, I'm as surprised as anyone, but the numbers point that out. 1396 at 200mg is right at 7x which is on the decent side of a UGL scale. I won't stand up and say "this is the shit to get", but making up shit about it being bunk doesn't apply here. Keep it accurate. Now if you want to bask the .9ml, or one vial having a batch # and date while the other was blank, knock your selves out, but let's not be guilty of making shit up and all of us looking bad.

i didnt mean to say yours in particular was underdosed. im just saying why dont labs just overdose and overfill and avoid screwing over customers over a few g of test and 1-2mL? my comment wasnt directed at you or the lab you bought in particular but was just a general observation.

 

[Flounder]

i didnt mean to say yours in particular was underdosed. im just saying why dont labs just overdose and overfill and avoid screwing over customers over a few g of test and 1-2mL? my comment wasnt directed at you or the lab you bought in particular but was just a general observation.

Money and greed.

 

[double-leg]

"K" will eventually fuck himself. Let him be! I will say this. I have delt with "k" in the past. He probably has a hand in valkyrie.
Underfilled bottles are so common from him its become his signature.

 

[double-leg]

its simple! They know most people will take the female hormone test that tops out at 1500 which most should hit with just 2 shots of test

 

[I_know_nothing]

Money and greed.

how unfortunate . my question was rhetorical, just making an observation that labs can reduce the number of complaints they have by simply being more generous and playing it safe rather than skimping on everything just to make more money.

 

[Gramps]

i didnt mean to say yours in particular was underdosed. im just saying why dont labs just overdose and overfill and avoid screwing over customers

No, we're on the same page. Roman's comment was out of context this time.

 

[Gramps]

Interesting enough, one of the reps for valk gear and I had a discussion about the shorted vials, some distrust was thrown around by them, yet an investigation was done and they admitted there WAS a fault with the vials coming out at ~9ml. So while the rep DID piss me off and make me go elsewhere for a refill, he did make a public apology to "all customers" and is taking action to make it right. ...and I was jabbed for being from "another forum" which has been known to cause problems. Like I said, I don't wear ANY colors but my own! Now it would have been great if another lab stepped up and admitted a problem before attacking a customer, but regardless, they admitted to it. Meanwhile my limited research money will likely go elsewhere for the attitude.

 

[bdg77]

Interesting, sadly enough I'd be happy with 9mls as long as it contained what the label stated. I'm not trying to defend anyone here, but I'd say I probably lose about 1ml from a 10ml bottle. It's what's left in the needle and the plastic base that holds the needle. Also when you measure the oil. The plunger is curved so it depends if your going from the higher middle part or lower edge. I believe the correct measure is based on the top of the plunger. And after injection can usually get a few drops (maybe three) by squeezing harder for a taste test if I feel like it. I'd say there was some test in there just based on you getting pissed off and doing something about it.

 

[Gramps]

The losses you mentioned accounted for me logging 7.5ml which is why I ran the measurement. If I buy a car it needs to be complete or I ain't paying full price. At $5.60 shorted per bottle, how many will you buy before you feel cheated? For a company selling hundreds or thousands of bottles, how much of the public's moneyis acceptable for them to pocket? For a kitchen lab to do this might be OK. These guys ain't no kitchen.

 

[bdg77]

Yeah, 7.5 is pretty damn low. I can see your point. They should have done more to make it right.

 

[Pg8630]

From what I can tell, if you don't get gear from the super secret sources on this site, it must be bunk, underdosed, contaminated, dosed with estrogen, or just plain oil. I've seen people here claim that Watson purchased from the drugstore is fake. And if someone doors get good blood work, it must be faked

I get Watson brand from wallgreens from script never fake lol all ug lab gear going to be either a little underdosed or a little over dosed. There not going to be perfect because there a ug lab there no quality control it's some guys making it in there basement from raws there importing from china. Most not all ugl do underdosed gear to make more money. Best thing to do is import the raws your self and cook your own gear. Wich I'm thinking about doing more and more. U can't trust anyone anymore like u could in the 90's when there wasn't that many scum or young kids trying to get gear. And the brother hood between body builders was allot better and more trusting then it is now. Now it's all about money and fast buck.

 

[Pg8630]

I take 2 pills twice daily on extra strength exedrin for pain. No smoking, no dope, no drinking - no reason, I just don't. I have no intentions of running a minor cycle. I plan to shoot for 700-1000 total T. By reading I figured my estro was jacked before ever touching T. I just want to put together a game plan and run bloods again at 6-8 weeks.

Do u take any pain meds? My doc told me that my oxycontin and norco is one reason why my test gets low on my trt? I know I stated u didn't do any drugs but just wondering I know it's of topic but I have ms and brain tumor on my pituitary gland. Wich is reason why I'm on trt but they don't give me enough of trt for goals I want to achieve in the gym. With out any of it I'd be 500lb and stuck in bed all day and nite lol.

 

[Gramps]

I have HSP which is a distant 3rd cousin to MS in symptoms but no drugs to interfere with my results back then nor now. The T results in this old thread were good - the problem was the underfilled vials and a rep being a douchebag about it before admitting publicly they had a problem before dropping contact with me for pointing out their fuckup. It all worked out good for me as I moved on and don't rely on their ignorance any more. I was a newbie and have since been more educated.

 

[John Dougherty]

This blows my mind. I'm under the assumption that people make good money off this shit. If that wasn't the case the risk wouldn't be worth it. I used to sell cheeba years ago, and I made great money (before the super cheeba showed up). I had a wonderful customer base because I always had it, and always weighed it out right. I knew those stoners were checking the weights. I understand that you can't control how much is in the raws that are sent, but you can test the raws. It may be costly, but people would rather pay more for good product that is all there. So, let's say the raws are tested at 90% purity (just an example). Then you add 10% more per ml to make it exactly what is says on the label. Then, you fucking put all 10ml in the vial. Then you have loyal following of people that will be with you until you choose to stop doing it. It's that fucking simple. I suck at math, but it still adds up. Hell, you run less risk of getting busted with a small, loyal customer base. Even if one of them get busted, they're more likely to keep your name out of their mouth if you've done them right. So what if the testing costs more. I would rather make a nickel off of 100 people then a dime off of 10.. FUCK.. FUCK.. FUCK!

Well said...

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