Bold cyp not holding

[theotherguy]

I need more help with this, I had it tested to verify that it is in fact bold cyp. I currently have it at 3/30 and 150 mg/mL. It is holding fine but I cannot filter it for Shit. I keep clogging and popping filters after just a few mL. I just now mixed it for an hour at 170-180 and it still won’t filter (obviously I let it cool but it was still warm when I tried to filter it). It has been in solution for about 3 days at 3/30.

IDK what the fuck is going on. I’m about to trash it because I’m so frustrated. Any advice? Ive been trying to filter this shit for about 3 weeks now

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

I used to make bold cyp at 150mg/ml with a usual amount bb. I think I made it as low as 13%bb once. I dont think its always real though. Bold cyp was never a pharm manufactured product. I had some from ppl once and it was trash

 

[theotherguy]

I used to make bold cyp at 150mg/ml with a usual amount bb. I think I made it as low as 13%bb once. I dont think its always real though. Bold cyp was never a pharm manufactured product. I had some from ppl once and it was trash

This is the second time I have purchased bold cyp from PPL. The first time it was fairly easy to brew (it was the first compound I ever homebrewed). This time around it couldn't be more difficult. It wouldn't hold until I got it to 27-28% BB and it just won't filter. I cannot understand why, but it seems the hormone is not fully in solution? Why else would I be clogging filters, unless the shit is just really dirty. But I am brewing it exactly the same as any other brew I have ever done, with respect to cleanliness. I have brewed other compounds after brewing the bold cyp and it came out flawlessly.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

This is the second time I have purchased bold cyp from PPL. The first time it was fairly easy to brew (it was the first compound I ever homebrewed). This time around it couldn't be more difficult. It wouldn't hold until I got it to 27-28% BB and it just won't filter. I cannot understand why, but it seems the hormone is not fully in solution? Why else would I be clogging filters, unless the shit is just really dirty. But I am brewing it exactly the same as any other brew I have ever done, with respect to cleanliness. I have brewed other compounds after brewing the bold cyp and it came out flawlessly.

Yea there is something wrong most likely with the raws. If its translucent its in solution. I can usually get most anything to hold at 150-200f. I know bold cyp has a high melting point so you should be good. That much bb could be breaking down the filters. I saying all the other stuff as tips because if your like me I know you dont want to scrap that brew

 

[theotherguy]

Yea there is something wrong most likely with the raws. If its translucent its in solution. I can usually get most anything to hold at 150-200f. I know bold cyp has a high melting point so you should be good. That much bb could be breaking down the filters. I saying all the other stuff as tips because if your like me I know you dont want to scrap that brew

I first tried filtering it when it was still at 20% BB and it wouldn't filter then either. I actually brewed DHB one time and it was crashing as I put it into the vials, and those filters still never clogged, so IDK what the fuck is wrong. I'm seriously thinking about just scrapping it though, as much as I HATE doing that

 

[pharmasource]

B Cyp should hold 200mg with 25% BB with no problem. If not, you can add 20% EO.
B Cyp is one of more ,,pain in ass,, compounds in brewing.
Anyway, still you can add 10% pure alcohol ( 98-99% ) , it can help.

 

[theotherguy]

B Cyp should hold 200mg with 25% BB with no problem. If not, you can add 20% EO.
B Cyp is one of more ,,pain in ass,, compounds in brewing.
Anyway, still you can add 10% pure alcohol ( 98-99% ) , it can help.

It just blows my mind that this is the second time I am brewing it, and the first time it held fine at 25%. This time it appears to be holding just fine, there is zero signs of crashing or crystallization, but for some reason it just won't filter. That is the problem that I am having now.

 

[theotherguy]

Update on this thread, I finally got the batch to hold at 30% BB, but it wouldn’t filter. My syringe filters would clog up and rupture after about 10 mL. I diluted down to 100 mg/mL and it still wouldn’t filter. I tossed the batch.

2 days ago I brewed up a new batch of bold cyp from a different vendor, it held perfectly fine at 2/21 on the first try. I even let it sit for 2 days without issue. Today I filtered it and was able to get 60-70 mL per filter without issue.

 

[Diempes]

Boldenone cypionate has a melting point of 165 degrees centigrade, so warm it til that temperature, u have to think that every time u warm ur oil again, ur saturating it, so probably could crash and wont hold anymore.
next time with ur boldenone, warm it to his melting point, it is neccesary to warm it til its melting point, and u dont need an hour of stirring, thats crazy, u need to stir it while it is warming and til u reach its melting point, then stir it 2 or 3 more minutes n thats it.

Most of the problems with crashing is because of melting point, so reach it!!!
and normally filters accept temperatures like 80 degrees centigrade, i normally filter at 60 degrees centigrade, and sometimes 70 with no problem.

one more thing if ur trying to filter and it cloggs, perhaps it will crash again.

 

[theotherguy]

Boldenone cypionate has a melting point of 165 degrees centigrade, so warm it til that temperature, u have to think that every time u warm ur oil again, ur saturating it, so probably could crash and wont hold anymore.
next time with ur boldenone, warm it to his melting point, it is neccesary to warm it til its melting point, and u dont need an hour of stirring, thats crazy, u need to stir it while it is warming and til u reach its melting point, then stir it 2 or 3 more minutes n thats it.

Most of the problems with crashing is because of melting point, so reach it!!!
and normally filters accept temperatures like 80 degrees centigrade, i normally filter at 60 degrees centigrade, and sometimes 70 with no problem.

one more thing if ur trying to filter and it cloggs, perhaps it will crash again.

That has not been my experience. I have never reached melting point on any of my raws when brewing, except maybe deca and I have brewed something like 10-12 different compounds at this point, and I have never had issues with crashing except with that one batch of bold cyp (I’ve brewed it 3 times now).

 

[Diempes]

That has not been my experience. I have never reached melting point on any of my raws when brewing, except maybe deca and I have brewed something like 10-12 different compounds at this point, and I have never had issues with crashing except with that one batch of bold cyp (I’ve brewed it 3 times now).

Meting point is more than neccesary dissolved is not the same as melted. Are different concepts in chemistry.
There are some things u have to respect to succed always. I can say uve been lucky but it doesnt mean it always gonna be in that way. If u check forums there are TONS of mistakes and crashed gears.
I always take my compounds to their melting point, or very very near.
Havent u asked yourself why pple says test E is the easiest compound? Its just becuse of its melting point. It is just 45 degrees so u almost dont need warm it.
I had a very very difficult test E powder and crashed everytime, i looked for answers and there are 2 things, u cannot warm it more than 50 degrees because it could crash, there are oils that accept more powder than others and there are powders that dont dissolve easily as Stanozolol. For everybody is a nightmare...
But they do not respect melting point listen i made a very large batch of stano 50mg/ml suspension and made it in oil too, with no issues.
Melting point and listen one more thing if use the right temp, then you wont have pip with 4 example DHB.

 

[theotherguy]

I just don't think what you're saying is accurate. I have always used a little heat in everything I brew (except Bold U) but I have never taken any very close to their melting point (except bold C, and it still crashed over and over again on me). The solvent decreases the melting point of the raw, which is the whole reason it is used.

I am not a chemist, but I do understand basic chemistry, and what you're saying just doesn't seem accurate to me, especially since you're the only person on this entire forum saying that melting point temps are REQUIRED, and there are tons of people on here that homebrew.

 

[Diempes]

I just don't think what you're saying is accurate. I have always used a little heat in everything I brew (except Bold U) but I have never taken any very close to their melting point (except bold C, and it still crashed over and over again on me). The solvent decreases the melting point of the raw, which is the whole reason it is used.

I am not a chemist, but I do understand basic chemistry, and what you're saying just doesn't seem accurate to me, especially since you're the only person on this entire forum saying that melting point temps are REQUIRED, and there are tons of people on here that homebrew.

No man what ur doing is Dissolving, that is very different than melting... this 2 concepts are different, even if u dont see the cristals, theey re there nd u need to met them. Please go to google and read about the difference beteween melting and dissolving.
U need to melt those cristals, u need a little bit more than just dissolving, that is not the same. Anyway, u can read a little more and see what im saying.

 

[Diempes]

I just don't think what you're saying is accurate. I have always used a little heat in everything I brew (except Bold U) but I have never taken any very close to their melting point (except bold C, and it still crashed over and over again on me). The solvent decreases the melting point of the raw, which is the whole reason it is used.

I am not a chemist, but I do understand basic chemistry, and what you're saying just doesn't seem accurate to me, especially since you're the only person on this entire forum saying that melting point temps are REQUIRED, and there are tons of people on here that homebrew.

Im the only one that dont make thing in my moms kitchen
U can do whatever u want but ur not right. Ive a chemist friend.
And ur the one who had problem with a batch that is a nightmare here. Crashed and u dont know how to fix it but u didnt used heat, because u used 20 25 30 35% BB because u think solvent will fix the problem.
Come on... ur problem isnt the solvent.

 

[theotherguy]

Im the only one that dont make thing in my moms kitchen
U can do whatever u want but ur not right. Ive a chemist friend.
And ur the one who had problem with a batch that is a nightmare here. Crashed and u dont know how to fix it but u didnt used heat, because u used 20 25 30 35% BB because u think solvent will fix the problem.
Come on... ur problem isnt the solvent.

There it is, I wasn’t gonna say it but now I will. Look up the dunning-Kruger effect. This explains you and your chemistry knowledge. You know just a little bit about chemistry and you think you’re an expert, when in reality you don’t know shit, but try to act as though you do.

I had an issue with one compound one time. And I have brewed the same compound 3 times now (not to mention probably 15 others batches of brews of various compounds) and haven’t had the same issue as I did with this one, even with the other 2 brews of the same compound.. Fuck me for being honest and open, just throw it back in my face for trying to learn.

I never said the solvent was the problem, I even got it to hold without crashing, although the BB was higher than I believe it needed to be. The issue I had (reading comprehension obviously isn’t your strong suit) was that it wouldn’t filter. I kept blowing through filters even with stable gear. The caulk gun I was using would basically lock up because there was so much pressure on the filter after about 10 mL.

Hey there mr pseudo chemist, tell me, what is the melting point of boldenone cypionate? I know a quick google search will tell me the answer, but since you’re so intent on trying to prove me wrong, answer this one question

 

[Diempes]

There it is, I wasn’t gonna say it but now I will. Look up the dunning-Kruger effect. This explains you and your chemistry knowledge. You know just a little bit about chemistry and you think you’re an expert, when in reality you don’t know shit, but try to act as though you do.

I had an issue with one compound one time. And I have brewed the same compound 3 times now (not to mention probably 15 others batches of brews of various compounds) and haven’t had the same issue as I did with this one, even with the other 2 brews of the same compound.. Fuck me for being honest and open, just throw it back in my face for trying to learn.

I never said the solvent was the problem, I even got it to hold without crashing, although the BB was higher than I believe it needed to be. The issue I had (reading comprehension obviously isn’t your strong suit) was that it wouldn’t filter. I kept blowing through filters even with stable gear. The caulk gun I was using would basically lock up because there was so much pressure on the filter after about 10 mL.

Hey there mr pseudo chemist, tell me, what is the melting point of boldenone cypionate? I know a quick google search will tell me the answer, but since you’re so intent on trying to prove me wrong, answer this one question

Listen kid i wont tell u anything else... but the ppl who i work with know A LOT more than ur basic chemistry, so keep ur crashed shit in ur basement and fix it with more solvent. Haha

 

[Diempes]

There it is, I wasn’t gonna say it but now I will. Look up the dunning-Kruger effect. This explains you and your chemistry knowledge. You know just a little bit about chemistry and you think you’re an expert, when in reality you don’t know shit, but try to act as though you do.

I had an issue with one compound one time. And I have brewed the same compound 3 times now (not to mention probably 15 others batches of brews of various compounds) and haven’t had the same issue as I did with this one, even with the other 2 brews of the same compound.. Fuck me for being honest and open, just throw it back in my face for trying to learn.

I never said the solvent was the problem, I even got it to hold without crashing, although the BB was higher than I believe it needed to be. The issue I had (reading comprehension obviously isn’t your strong suit) was that it wouldn’t filter. I kept blowing through filters even with stable gear. The caulk gun I was using would basically lock up because there was so much pressure on the filter after about 10 mL.

Hey there mr pseudo chemist, tell me, what is the melting point of boldenone cypionate? I know a quick google search will tell me the answer, but since you’re so intent on trying to p

And I have brewed the same compound 3 times HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA 3 times!!!! Wow!!! Now u have a chemistry diploma!!!! 3 times.. what a fucking clown

rove me wrong, answer

 

[theotherguy]

Listen kid i wont tell u anything else... but the ppl who i work with know A LOT more than ur basic chemistry, so keep ur crashed shit in ur basement and fix it with more solvent. Haha

Yep, turn and run instead of defending your position (which you cannot do because you don’t have the knowledge to do so). You have been called out for not knowing anything, and you know I’m right, so you decided to stop talking to me and move on to peddle your bullshit somewhere else.

 

[Diempes]

Yep, turn and run instead of defending your position (which you cannot do because you don’t have the knowledge to do so). You have been called out for not knowing anything, and you know I’m right, so you decided to stop talking to me and move on to peddle your bullshit somewhere else.

I wont because ur a clown and i wont keep saying the same... ur the one with crashed bolde not me... n u have brewed a lot so u know how to fix it Mr chemistry.

 

[theotherguy]

I wont because ur a clown and i wont keep saying the same... ur the one with crashed bolde not me... n u have brewed a lot so u know how to fix it Mr chemistry.

You speak in absolutes about a topic in which you clearly know little to nothing, but I'm the clown? good job, nice projection.

Also, you still don't know how to read if you think I still have crashed bold cyp. Your stupidity is showing, you might want to hide it with big words and fake shit you peddle as fact