Boldenone is underrated.

Not everyone gets high HCT issues on EQ.
If you see this thread, there's 3 members (Including me) who saw a drop in HCT after hoping on large amounts of EQ

How were you defining "large amounts"?
 
squeaky-clean diet
i suspect it, but from my understanding. having high ferritin, iron etc can contribute to a more qualititve environment for producing red blood cells, and the eq will do what the eq will do.

sadly squeaky clean diet probably isnt a bonus here but i respect you for having the lifestyle down
 
Hmmm I’m actually borderline anemic (runs in family), since I’ve been on testosterone I’ve never had to give blood and I get bloodwork done every 10 weeks. I think I may give EQ a try but it would be my first cycle besides just Test cyp.
 
From what I've read, seen, and heard, testosterone is the king. Only problem with test is excessive aromatization. How do people solve that? Usually with either an AI, lowering test and leveraging other things like nandrolone or recently the infamous high masteron low test cycles (great on paper but pretty mediocre in practice), or using good ol' primobolan to keep estrogen at bay. But what about Boldenone? You can also control E2 with Boldenone seemingly. Now it seems that the main problem with Boldenone is its looooong ester that is usually always attached to which makes it harder to plan around, takes a while to build up and clear up, the main reason a lot of people get anxiety from it is very likely that they are lowering their E2 too much and due to having a long ester it takes a while for the dose adjustment to be felt in practice. The main issues with Boldenone are fixed by having it in a shorter ester like Cyp. Now some other may bring up the nephro-toxic nature of Boldenone; however, that is a problem that is no inherent from Boldenone use since that is a branching issue from having chronically elevated blood pressure (which all steroids cause). Probably the reason why Boldenone stands out as more neptho-toxic than other compounds is its inherently better ability to elevate red blood count which thickens your blood, thus increasing blood pressure. If you do your due diligence and control BP as you should if you're using and AAS anyway, then something like Boldenone cyp seems like a really good cost-effective alternative to primo.
i agree great take on it
 
Donating blood is a fucking horrible idea. Rebound effect hello??? Chronic low ferritin hello???
Donating blood (therapeutic phlebotomy) is actually the standard medical intervention for high hematocrit it’s exactly what’s prescribed in conditions like polycythemia vera. The idea that there’s some dangerous “rebound effect” isn’t really accurate. After a donation, your hematocrit drops immediately, and then slowly rises again over the course of weeks. If you’re still running boldenone, of course it will continue to stimulate red blood cell production but that’s the drug, not the donation causing a sudden overshoot.

Ferritin only becomes an issue if you donate excessively and without checking your labs. One-off or occasional donations when hematocrit is too high are safe, effective, and widely used.

When I said “donate as soon as you can,” I meant in a structured way for example, once before the cycle and once after, with ~3 months in between, which is the standard interval. That’s enough to keep hematocrit under control without tanking ferritin.
 
Donating blood (therapeutic phlebotomy) is actually the standard medical intervention for high hematocrit it’s exactly what’s prescribed in conditions like polycythemia vera. The idea that there’s some dangerous “rebound effect” isn’t really accurate. After a donation, your hematocrit drops immediately, and then slowly rises again over the course of weeks. If you’re still running boldenone, of course it will continue to stimulate red blood cell production but that’s the drug, not the donation causing a sudden overshoot.

Ferritin only becomes an issue if you donate excessively and without checking your labs. One-off or occasional donations when hematocrit is too high are safe, effective, and widely used.

When I said “donate as soon as you can,” I meant in a structured way for example, once before the cycle and once after, with ~3 months in between, which is the standard interval. That’s enough to keep hematocrit under control without tanking ferritin.
Dude a 3 months cycle with EQ? When it starts to peak you stop it?

No no the rebound effect is documented and it's real.
The issue here is that a donation slightly lower your hematocrit, 2 points at best is my experience and in few weeks you are gonna be the same or worse.

In my opinion if one can't stay below 54 then he/she better start finding alternative substances or maybe cycling is not for him/her
 
Dude a 3 months cycle with EQ? When it starts to peak you stop it?

No no the rebound effect is documented and it's real.
The issue here is that a donation slightly lower your hematocrit, 2 points at best is my experience and in few weeks you are gonna be the same or worse.

In my opinion if one can't stay below 54 then he/she better start finding alternative substances or maybe cycling is not for him/her
The “rebound effect” you’re describing isn’t really a rebound. If your hematocrit looked worse a few weeks after donating, that’s almost certainly the drug still driving erythropoiesis, not the donation causing some magical overshoot. EQ (and most AAS) stimulate RBC production as long as you’re on that’s the mechanism.

A standard blood donation usually drops hematocrit by 3–4 points, which is exactly why phlebotomy is the clinical standard for polycythemia and for TRT patients with elevated HCT. The key is timing and labs.

From my own experience: I have polycythemia, and when I’m on cycle I donate every 2 months. That keeps my hematocrit in range the highest I’ve seen was 54 on a heavy test + tren run. With EQ, by the 2 month mark it’s in full force (and I see it in the mirror), but I never run it longer than 3 months.

And for context: once you actually come off the cycle, RBC and hematocrit gradually normalize on their own because the stimulus (the AAS) is gone.

So yeah if someone can’t keep HCT below 54 even with this approach, maybe EQ isn’t for them or every steroid for that matter. But saying blood donation is a “horrible idea” just doesn’t line up with science or real world results.
 
From my own experience: I have polycythemia, and when I’m on cycle I donate every 2 months. That keeps my hematocrit in range the highest I’ve seen was 54 on a heavy test + tren run. With EQ, by the 2 month mark it’s in full force (and I see it in the mirror), but I never run it longer than 3 months.
i do believe if you monitor ferritin/iron and your levels are ok you can do this.

from my own bloods. a donation once a year would be ok but if i did every 2 months i would tank myself beyond something i can supplement away. even if only on cycle.

it gets tricky since its individual to bloodwork so i tend to agree with you both. but differently shouldn't be recommened as a quick fix if someone runs into this issue and is rebounding by next 2 weeks.

every 2 months you also have to monitor other stuff than ferritin and iron
 
And for context: once you actually come off the cycle, RBC and hematocrit gradually normalize on their own because the stimulus (the AAS) is gone.

So yeah if someone can’t keep HCT below 54 even with this approach, maybe EQ isn’t for them or every steroid for that matter. But saying blood donation is a “horrible idea” just doesn’t line up with science or real world results.

I used to donate every three months for five years, after starting trt and running anabolics. . Dave Palumbo said donating isnt neccessary ten plus years ago. I stopped donating as much and do it once a year, usually in the midst of a heavy cycle or working up to one. My Iron and ferritin has tanked two seperate times, after donating via labs. That is why I stopped donatng as much. I do think donating once a year is very benefical for a male from a health benefit. Good post
 
I used to donate every three months for five years, after starting trt and running anabolics. . Dave Palumbo said donating isnt neccessary ten plus years ago. I stopped donating as much and do it once a year, usually in the midst of a heavy cycle or working up to one. My Iron and ferritin has tanked two seperate times, after donating via labs. That is why I stopped donatng as much. I do think donating once a year is very benefical for a male from a health benefit. Good post
I'm also not much a fan of donating, I can't run bold for to long though or I'll just crash and feel like death.400, maybe 600 in prep. Never had much rbc,width or hemato issues..they were there and prevalent but for the amount of time I'm on the renal damage is pretty limited ad nothing an aspirin and nato won't keep under control for the time. I prefer to gauge the future damages as opposed to lobbing bandaids at things or just run things right below that side effect threshold. You start getting side effects..they landslide, then you take 2 or 3 more things to fight those side effects now you need 2 or 3 more things to fight those and on and on. Sometimes ya just gotta take the pegging in my opinion
 
I wish it would raise my HCT a little but it doesn't (no compounds so far does it) at least at 250mg. Wish i could run it high without needing to take 3gr of test lol. After a cycle of test/tren and 4 weeks after immediately switching to 500 test, 250 EQ, 140npp my HCT is 44.
 
Whats your reasoning behind this( the donating part) ? Curious .
i think i've stated it above this message. but yeah i have 1 donation in me a year with the minerals in my blood. and i for sure cycle longer than that guy who only runs eq for 3 months xd

so if i had a hct issue from a steroid i would just rebound hct > donate again and that wont be too fun on my planned 9 month cycles.
 
I'm also really interested in trying Boldenone undecanoate, but then Hematocrit warnings are concerning lol. On trt now but my hematocrit went down from 52 before to 48 a year later.

I'll need to figure out the lowest effective dose. Was surprised to see mention of medium or longer lasting esters, I'd think you'd want a shorter acting one in case you need to abandon ship due to high hct.
 
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