I was wondering if any of you guys are, have been, or know anyone in Quixtar. Fill me in with some details, pros/cons, etc. 
Thanks.
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The-Juice-Man
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Explain about this.Bob Smith said:I was wondering if any of you guys are, have been, or know anyone in Quixtar. Fill me in with some details, pros/cons, etc.
Thanks.
The-Juice-Man
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Bob
Waiting on ya bob, I am interested.pimpjuice said:
Its kind of a multi-level deal. I met with a guy tonight (retired air natl guard, about to quit job as sargent in PD) that is making $100k+ with it. I was wondering what the likelihood of that is, what it really takes to make it work, etc.The-Juice-Man said:
So really Im only looking for responses from people that are pretty knowledgeable about the company and setup. Sorry bro.
BTW, I love the kitty!
The-Juice-Man
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thanks
I was going to get into an inter-net deal like that, Kind of a pyramid thing. Thanks, I thought I would show my more sensitive side and put my cool kitty on there. SHe plays fetch and eats like she is on a mas cycle, we get along! Good luck.Bob Smith said:Its kind of a multi-level deal. I met with a guy tonight (retired air natl guard, about to quit job as sargent in PD) that is making $100k+ with it. I was wondering what the likelihood of that is, what it really takes to make it work, etc.
So really Im only looking for responses from people that are pretty knowledgeable about the company and setup. Sorry bro.
MLMs
Bob, here's an interesting site on MLM's (the business theory behind them and the questionable ethics that make the whole thing work, or at least sort of work). Basically it boils down to being lower on the pyramid increases one's likelihood of failing. Most people who make money get in, dick a bunch of people over really quickly, then get out. Later man.
http://http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html
Bob, here's an interesting site on MLM's (the business theory behind them and the questionable ethics that make the whole thing work, or at least sort of work). Basically it boils down to being lower on the pyramid increases one's likelihood of failing. Most people who make money get in, dick a bunch of people over really quickly, then get out. Later man.
http://http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html
betterthanu
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pyramid scam my friend. stay away.
Blitz63
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Yeah, me and the wife were in it. I got pissed off when my"uplink" wouldn't let me advertise......said it should be all "referrals". Products are good but to make any money at all your evenings would be tied up at "meetings" showing how it worksBob Smith said:I was wondering if any of you guys are, have been, or know anyone in Quixtar. Fill me in with some details, pros/cons, etc.
Thanks.
. Btw it is affilated with Amway.......they tell you at the first meeting most people average $88.0/month 
.Blitz63 said:Yeah, me and the wife were in it. I got pissed off when my"uplink" wouldn't let me advertise......said it should be all "referrals". Products are good but to make any money at all your evenings would be tied up at "meetings" showing how it works
Quixtar is Amways method of modernizing their methods and selling them into a new market. Basically it is the same except you are marketing name brand products instead of amway branded stuff. These type of programs will make you money if you are a good bullshitter and can quickly convince a bunch of people that is it a good thing. Which happens to be exactly what your friend is doing to you Bob. You seem like a smart guy, i would steer away from it.
I had a buddy that joined this past summer and wanted me to join up under him... My impression of the program was this... It sounds good in theory. The general idea I took from it was that quixtar has a bunch of contracts with a bunch of different companies. On their website they sell all these products for the companies... What you try to do is get folks to join and then redirect their shopping habits thru the quixtar website. So if you need shoes, don go to the mall, go to quixtar! I guess you would make a commision on whoever bought anything that was under you in the pyramid.
I liked the idea of redirecting peoples buying power into one location, but I think people like to go out and shop and surf the web for deals etc... You would have to be pretty disciplined to do all your shopping at one website, for everything...
I found another opportunity that I like better..
I liked the idea of redirecting peoples buying power into one location, but I think people like to go out and shop and surf the web for deals etc... You would have to be pretty disciplined to do all your shopping at one website, for everything...
I found another opportunity that I like better..
my stupid cousin is doin this stuff....he tried to give me his pitch, im like i dont give a damn, aint interested, aint gonna sell shit....so save it for some dumbass that wants to hear it....anybody hyping this crap is a fucktard, that someone else has pumped full of their hype.
What kind of opportunity, Shaboz?shaboz said:
musclebobbuffpants
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Morepain is right, this is just an Amway scam. My wife and I were tricked into sitting through a presentation. I was very rude throught the whole thing.
Here's the deal, they want you to become a member, and you can recruit more ppl or you can just sell them products and make a very small cut, or you can buy the name brand products at a not so increadible price. This is a bunch of crap. There are all kinds of better deals that can be found all over the internet.
Don't do it, the only ppl that are gonna see any real money are the ones that started it.
Just my 2 cents,
musclebobbuffpants
Here's the deal, they want you to become a member, and you can recruit more ppl or you can just sell them products and make a very small cut, or you can buy the name brand products at a not so increadible price. This is a bunch of crap. There are all kinds of better deals that can be found all over the internet.
Don't do it, the only ppl that are gonna see any real money are the ones that started it.
Just my 2 cents,
musclebobbuffpants
rillotucows@hotmail.com
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MLM can be good. It is you just have to pick and choose your battles. The amount of time and effort you have to put in this "business" to make it work is huge. If you put the same amount of time and effort into starting a more traditional business then it would probably be successful. It is just easier for someone to follow someone else than creating their own path.
BTW...here is my business www.altosoftware.com. The time I put in here is great but at least it is my own and I don't have to pay anyone 'above me' shit.
Rill
BTW...here is my business www.altosoftware.com. The time I put in here is great but at least it is my own and I don't have to pay anyone 'above me' shit.
Rill
kemo
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Bob
Bob,
O.K. Here I go again running through traffic, but I tend to have a little different take on it. First, I am not trying to recruit anyone, it wouldn't do me any good, I don't personally do it. However, I think you need some objective answers:
First, what is it? Some of the posts on here are correct: Quixtar is a sister company to Amway, the most successful and powerful direct marketing company in the world. Amway of course has received a fairly bad rep throughout the years due to so many people getting involved and failing to make the big bucks. In the mid - 90's, a couple of the successful people in Amway decided that the internet was the next great thing. They approached the owners of Amway with the idea, and was basically told, "we aren't changing things". However, after some negotiations, the company reach a compromise. Amway corporate would be restructured into a holding company, a product company, the traditional Amway distributors, and a new internet company. So what you have is a holding company that owns Amway, Quixtar, and the company that makes their proprietary products (Soap, shampoo, etc.) Quixtar was started as a pure internet shopping and order system. In addition, Quixtar linked with various other companies (MCI, IBM, Eddie Bauer), etc to distribute their products as well. Obviously these companies are eager to work with the company due to the huge numbers of loyal shoppers they bring. So anyway, there is the history.
As for the products and prices. If you can think it, they carry it. Protein bars, vitamins, dish soap, shoes, suits, bowflex, computers, cameras, peanut butter....everything that isn't perishable they have. Prices? Probably a touch more that you would pay if you shop around. So why would people pay higher prices?? Read on.
The opportunity. Let's say you get involved. You then start re-directing a small portion of your purchases to the business. If that is it, you aren't really going to do that much in the business. However, you are trained to go out and recruit others to do the same thing. You then get a small percent of commission on whatever they buy. As more and more people get involved, the % of commission you get goes up. At the same time, you start getting a discount on your own products. If you get to a decent volume, you are getting everything at 25% off, which makes most things cheaper than you can find anywhere else. Does this hurt the guys below? No...because you are putting more people "under" them which helps drive their own volume, discounts, and income up.
Is it a pyramid? First, think logically....a pyramid is an illegal scheme where the first people in are the only ones who make money....the earlier in, the more money you make. Note I said "Illegal". Do you really think a company like IBM would align with another company that was illegaly distributing products? Not likely. Quixtar is set up in such a way that you can actually make more money that the person who got you in. So what about running out of people? Again, not likely. Amway was started in 1960, and is still going strong. 40+ years and still going strong.
Now, why do so many people dislike it? First, this is not a get rich scheme. It is work....hard work. It usually takes 2 years of solid work to get to the level where you are making around $50k, and another 2 years to get to the point where you are making around 125k. Notice I said "Hard work". Many people get in, try for a little while, or try now and then, a year later they say, "I only made $50 a month....this doesn't work."
We are all BB here, so think of it in terms we can understand. Lets assume I am 6'2" tall, 250lbs with about 175lbs lean weight. I come to you and say "I want to be 220lbs with 200lbs lean weight." Well, that means I need to lose 55 lbs of fat and put on 25 lbs of muscle. You tell me, that is fully attainable if you work hard for 3 years. Great I say, and off I go. I decide that 3 days a week I am going to do cardio and follow a diet. The other 4 I am going to sit on my couch and eat chips with dip and cheeseburgers. Around month 6 I say, I don't think this is working, so I take a month off the program. Month 8 I hear a tape that gets me all motivated, so I go work really hard at my diet and cardio for a month, and see some gains. I think wow, that was rough, I am only able to do this for 2 days a week. Next thing I know, it is a year later and I am actually fatter and further out of shape. I tell my cousin, "that Bob...he designed a program for me that didn't work!!! I tried it for a full year with nothing.....it sucks. Did you know he actually wanted me to workout and diet six days a week!!! Not only that, but those guys at the gym are a cult!!! Did you know they actually all cheered for each other and would spot one another!!! I am so glad I quit!" So, who is to blame? Bob? I don't think so....yet me and everyone I know now thinks Bob plan sucks. In my opinion, basically the same thing with Quixtar.
With all that said, the most important thing you can do is get in with a good group. Quixtar provides the gym and the diet plan. The team you get in with gives you instruction on how to use the gym, how to plan your eating and workout schedule, and is there to support you along the way. Matter of fact, they might even introduce you to dBol, Winny, DNP and some Test. They call you up when you sleep in and ask if they can help take you to the gym. Understand?
Finally, I have seen a few people get into this and do nothing, and I have seen a few people get in...commit, and do great. I have a friend that bugged me to get in back in late 1998, and I said "no". He is now making around $300k a year working about 2 weeks a month. I know a bunch of other people who are making between 30 and 100k.....and I know a large group that still says, "doesn't work...cult...scam, etc."
Bob, I would say you have the info needed now. Next you need to ask, "am I willing to do what it takes?". If you answer yes, then screw what I or anyone else has to say.....go make it happen.
BTW....I do not do this!!! This is not a recruiting plan. However, I do know a very successful couple that is in this that will give you their take on it as well. If you want another opinion PM me and I'll get you their info. Again....NOT ME RECRUITING!!!
So why haven't I done it? When I commit to something I will not give up, and at this point I haven't been ready to say, let's go. Like I said, it is work....and right now I just want to sit on the couch and eat my chip-n-dip.
Hope this helps.....
Kemo
Bob,
O.K. Here I go again running through traffic, but I tend to have a little different take on it. First, I am not trying to recruit anyone, it wouldn't do me any good, I don't personally do it. However, I think you need some objective answers:
First, what is it? Some of the posts on here are correct: Quixtar is a sister company to Amway, the most successful and powerful direct marketing company in the world. Amway of course has received a fairly bad rep throughout the years due to so many people getting involved and failing to make the big bucks. In the mid - 90's, a couple of the successful people in Amway decided that the internet was the next great thing. They approached the owners of Amway with the idea, and was basically told, "we aren't changing things". However, after some negotiations, the company reach a compromise. Amway corporate would be restructured into a holding company, a product company, the traditional Amway distributors, and a new internet company. So what you have is a holding company that owns Amway, Quixtar, and the company that makes their proprietary products (Soap, shampoo, etc.) Quixtar was started as a pure internet shopping and order system. In addition, Quixtar linked with various other companies (MCI, IBM, Eddie Bauer), etc to distribute their products as well. Obviously these companies are eager to work with the company due to the huge numbers of loyal shoppers they bring. So anyway, there is the history.
As for the products and prices. If you can think it, they carry it. Protein bars, vitamins, dish soap, shoes, suits, bowflex, computers, cameras, peanut butter....everything that isn't perishable they have. Prices? Probably a touch more that you would pay if you shop around. So why would people pay higher prices?? Read on.
The opportunity. Let's say you get involved. You then start re-directing a small portion of your purchases to the business. If that is it, you aren't really going to do that much in the business. However, you are trained to go out and recruit others to do the same thing. You then get a small percent of commission on whatever they buy. As more and more people get involved, the % of commission you get goes up. At the same time, you start getting a discount on your own products. If you get to a decent volume, you are getting everything at 25% off, which makes most things cheaper than you can find anywhere else. Does this hurt the guys below? No...because you are putting more people "under" them which helps drive their own volume, discounts, and income up.
Is it a pyramid? First, think logically....a pyramid is an illegal scheme where the first people in are the only ones who make money....the earlier in, the more money you make. Note I said "Illegal". Do you really think a company like IBM would align with another company that was illegaly distributing products? Not likely. Quixtar is set up in such a way that you can actually make more money that the person who got you in. So what about running out of people? Again, not likely. Amway was started in 1960, and is still going strong. 40+ years and still going strong.
Now, why do so many people dislike it? First, this is not a get rich scheme. It is work....hard work. It usually takes 2 years of solid work to get to the level where you are making around $50k, and another 2 years to get to the point where you are making around 125k. Notice I said "Hard work". Many people get in, try for a little while, or try now and then, a year later they say, "I only made $50 a month....this doesn't work."
We are all BB here, so think of it in terms we can understand. Lets assume I am 6'2" tall, 250lbs with about 175lbs lean weight. I come to you and say "I want to be 220lbs with 200lbs lean weight." Well, that means I need to lose 55 lbs of fat and put on 25 lbs of muscle. You tell me, that is fully attainable if you work hard for 3 years. Great I say, and off I go. I decide that 3 days a week I am going to do cardio and follow a diet. The other 4 I am going to sit on my couch and eat chips with dip and cheeseburgers. Around month 6 I say, I don't think this is working, so I take a month off the program. Month 8 I hear a tape that gets me all motivated, so I go work really hard at my diet and cardio for a month, and see some gains. I think wow, that was rough, I am only able to do this for 2 days a week. Next thing I know, it is a year later and I am actually fatter and further out of shape. I tell my cousin, "that Bob...he designed a program for me that didn't work!!! I tried it for a full year with nothing.....it sucks. Did you know he actually wanted me to workout and diet six days a week!!! Not only that, but those guys at the gym are a cult!!! Did you know they actually all cheered for each other and would spot one another!!! I am so glad I quit!" So, who is to blame? Bob? I don't think so....yet me and everyone I know now thinks Bob plan sucks. In my opinion, basically the same thing with Quixtar.
With all that said, the most important thing you can do is get in with a good group. Quixtar provides the gym and the diet plan. The team you get in with gives you instruction on how to use the gym, how to plan your eating and workout schedule, and is there to support you along the way. Matter of fact, they might even introduce you to dBol, Winny, DNP and some Test. They call you up when you sleep in and ask if they can help take you to the gym. Understand?
Finally, I have seen a few people get into this and do nothing, and I have seen a few people get in...commit, and do great. I have a friend that bugged me to get in back in late 1998, and I said "no". He is now making around $300k a year working about 2 weeks a month. I know a bunch of other people who are making between 30 and 100k.....and I know a large group that still says, "doesn't work...cult...scam, etc."
Bob, I would say you have the info needed now. Next you need to ask, "am I willing to do what it takes?". If you answer yes, then screw what I or anyone else has to say.....go make it happen.
BTW....I do not do this!!! This is not a recruiting plan. However, I do know a very successful couple that is in this that will give you their take on it as well. If you want another opinion PM me and I'll get you their info. Again....NOT ME RECRUITING!!!
So why haven't I done it? When I commit to something I will not give up, and at this point I haven't been ready to say, let's go. Like I said, it is work....and right now I just want to sit on the couch and eat my chip-n-dip.
Hope this helps.....
Kemo
jaysmithinwesson
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betterthanu said:
i know a few people that tried them. it didnt work.
Is this a real opportunity. Yes, Amway(Quixtar) is probably going to be around for a long time. Pyramid scheme? No.
I worked with an MLM company (supplement products) for about two years.
I didn't like it for a couple of reasons:
1) I have a regular job (very profitable) and I spent my evenings and weekends working the MLM biz. It is a LOT of work.
2) I found it very frustrating to get and keep other people motivated, and that is what the business is all about.
I think it was a good experience, but for me my time was more profiitably spent with my other business.
I worked with an MLM company (supplement products) for about two years.
I didn't like it for a couple of reasons:
1) I have a regular job (very profitable) and I spent my evenings and weekends working the MLM biz. It is a LOT of work.
2) I found it very frustrating to get and keep other people motivated, and that is what the business is all about.
I think it was a good experience, but for me my time was more profiitably spent with my other business.
