Can too much sodium make you flat/dehydrate you pre workout?

[ErectionAdvisor]

Hello everyone. I’ve been experimenting with higher sodium intake around my workout. Sometimes during my workout though, I still tend to get a bit flat and the pump fades earlier than it should. I’m doing several grams of salt on my pre meal, as well as a couple grams of salt in both my intra and pre shake. Am I just perhaps drinking too much water intra and flushing the electrolytes?

 

[MiniTrenPekka]

Hello everyone. I’ve been experimenting with higher sodium intake around my workout. Sometimes during my workout though, I still tend to get a bit flat and the pump fades earlier than it should. I’m doing several grams of salt on my pre meal, as well as a couple grams of salt in both my intra and pre shake. Am I just perhaps drinking too much water intra and flushing the electrolytes?

Honestly man I think you’re overthinking it. As long as you drink enough water and get enough electrolytes throughout the day, and maybe a gram of salt before your workout you’ll be fine. Pumps are cool don’t get me wrong but I feel like timing your sodium intake is excessive. Just track your workouts, make sure your progressing in your lifts, and you’ll be chillin

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Takes more than salt for a pump. How’s your potassium, carb, and water intake? How’s your training?

 

[ErectionAdvisor]

Takes more than salt for a pump. How’s your potassium, carb, and water intake? How’s your training?

Water is at 2 gallons, carbs 780g. Potassium… I could look closer at. But I have 2 potato meals and vegetables every meal.

Training, that’s a lot to get into. But generally I have good mind muscle connection and would expect better pumps given everything.

 

[buzzingonaas]

How long have you been eating higher carbs? Where’s your blood glucose at? Could be insulin sensitivity could be electrolytes.

 

[ErectionAdvisor]

How long have you been eating higher carbs? Where’s your blood glucose at? Could be insulin sensitivity could be electrolytes.

Waking up with a BG around 85 (am on 500mg metformin)

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I asked about training because it’s possible you’re jsut training past a the pump.

I think your salt intake is way overboard and you’d be better served with intake spread out more and just 1g pre. Assuming potassium isn’t astronomical, same for that pre.

Sometimes it’s just mental. Try not focusing on it. It isn’t the most important factor from training anywyas.

 

[ErectionAdvisor]

Sometimes it’s just mental. Try not focusing on it. It isn’t the most important factor from training anywyas

I think it’s this more than anything lol.

And I may be training past it and need to up my intra carbs as well. I’ve been doing 40g dextrose.

I appreciate your feedback bro

 

[29trt]

Waking up with a BG around 85 (am on 500mg metformin)

for some people metformin kills pumps and they can't carb load...

 

[ErectionAdvisor]

for some people metformin kills pumps and they can't carb load...

Been on metformin for years now, never had this issue

 

[readalot]

Vascular Effects of Dietary Salt - PMC

High dietary salt intake is detrimental in hypertensive and/or salt sensitive individuals, however there are a large number of normotensive salt resistant individuals for whom dietary salt may also be harmful as a result of salt's blood pressure ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Careful with that much sodium pre-workout. Could be sabotaging your arterial elasticity and vasodilation. You want to be promoting nitric oxide availability during workout.

Fig. 1...

Figure - PMC

High dietary salt intake is detrimental in hypertensive and/or salt sensitive individuals, however there are a large number of normotensive salt resistant individuals for whom dietary salt may also be harmful as a result of salt's blood pressure ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

More good general info:

Chase Irons' 5g and 18iu ED of GH

I have high bp. I've always ate alot of sodium, my sodium levels have never been close to being high on blood work so? I may try a lower sodium diet just to experiment with my bp, but I do sweat alot. The more u sweat the more sodium u need, it's a essential nutrient.

thinksteroids.com

 

[ErectionAdvisor]

Vascular Effects of Dietary Salt - PMC

High dietary salt intake is detrimental in hypertensive and/or salt sensitive individuals, however there are a large number of normotensive salt resistant individuals for whom dietary salt may also be harmful as a result of salt's blood pressure ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Careful with that much sodium pre-workout. Could be sabotaging your arterial elasticity and vasodilation. You want to be promoting nitric oxide availability during workout.

Fig. 1...

Figure - PMC

High dietary salt intake is detrimental in hypertensive and/or salt sensitive individuals, however there are a large number of normotensive salt resistant individuals for whom dietary salt may also be harmful as a result of salt's blood pressure ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

More good general info:

Chase Irons' 5g and 18iu ED of GH

I have high bp. I've always ate alot of sodium, my sodium levels have never been close to being high on blood work so? I may try a lower sodium diet just to experiment with my bp, but I do sweat alot. The more u sweat the more sodium u need, it's a essential nutrient.

thinksteroids.com

My BP is actually usually slightly hypotensive, if that’s what you’re implying.

 

[explodingHeart]

My BP is actually usually slightly hypotensive, if that’s what you’re implying.

"Animal studies of hypertension demonstrate that elevated dietary salt can increase arterial stiffness and that this effect is independent of BP (reviewed by Safar et al (59)). Reduced dietary sodium has also been shown to lower arterial stiffness in hypertensive humans (60, 61). Cross-sectional studies in humans provide evidence of an independent effect of salt on arterial stiffness. In a study of two groups of Chinese populations, a rural population that consumed lower salt compared to an urban population that consumed higher salt, pulse wave velocity was lower (i.e., better) in the rural group when the groups were compared at similar BPs "

 

[readalot]

if that’s what you’re implying.

It wasn't. You were inquiring about muscle pumps hence I made comment on vasodilation with supporting literature.

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00179.2004

Exercise Hyperemia and Regulation of Tissue Oxygenation During Muscular Activity - Skeletal Muscle Circulation - NCBI Bookshelf

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00185.2004

 

[boophomet]

If you're really trying to maximize your pump, I'd just use citrulline or cialis instead of so much salt. Both of them have other benefits for blood flow throughout the body that I'd even recommend them as daily supplements regardless of pumps.

 

[Qualityfirst]

Water is at 2 gallons, carbs 780g. Potassium… I could look closer at. But I have 2 potato meals and vegetables every meal.

Training, that’s a lot to get into. But generally I have good mind muscle connection and would expect better pumps given everything.

It’s most likely potassium. The rda is 4500 mg per day. At 2 gallons of water, you are essentially rinsing all of your electrolytes out. So you are actually dehydrated due to lack of electrolytes which is why you have no pump

 

[DugPrime]

Water is at 2 gallons, carbs 780g. Potassium… I could look closer at. But I have 2 potato meals and vegetables every meal.

Training, that’s a lot to get into. But generally I have good mind muscle connection and would expect better pumps given everything.

780g of carbs? You must be a monster, post physic

 

[Intrepid]

I was going to say that @iris is probably the person you want to confer with on this topic

..then I remembered @iris is fat and doesn't lift

 

[Laxbro88]

780g of carbs? You must be a monster, post physic

I mean when I am cutting I eat about 300-350gr carbs per day because my NEAT is so high