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Anabolic Steroids
TRT@40
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Sounds very interesting and convenient if it is really a drug testing service.
Hope it is not a scheme set out as a bait by LE...
TRT@40
Well-known Member
According to their website, they test steroids as well.
The kinds of drugs we can test:
TBH, I would donate them $100 if they could legitimately and accurately test AAS for every sample I send in. You have to help a good cause otherwise the good cause will not last too long.
The kinds of drugs we can test:
- Psychedelics like LSD, MDMA, MDA
- Stimulants like meth, cocaine, amphetamines
- Opiates like heroin and fentanyl
- Others like ketamine, PCP, steroids
TBH, I would donate them $100 if they could legitimately and accurately test AAS for every sample I send in. You have to help a good cause otherwise the good cause will not last too long.
janoshik
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I contemplated whether I should post this, as I will get flamed for providing input on 'competition' again, but I don't really see anybody else able to provide insight. And I might actually help somebody.
Like I said many times over (hello Xylia), FTIR sucks for anything but identification of small molecules. So this free service is a labmax killer and that's it.
Much more reliable than labmax, but not really useful for anything but identification.
Anyway, one can get a very good idea and form their own opinion by checking up the test results section - there are quite a few AAS already tested in there: Test Results Archive - Get Your Drugs Tested
Like I said many times over (hello Xylia), FTIR sucks for anything but identification of small molecules. So this free service is a labmax killer and that's it.
Much more reliable than labmax, but not really useful for anything but identification.
Anyway, one can get a very good idea and form their own opinion by checking up the test results section - there are quite a few AAS already tested in there: Test Results Archive - Get Your Drugs Tested
muscletrain
Member
I can see why you commenting would seem bias but I also had a long in-depth discussion with what I would say is one of Canada's super labs about why FTIR sucks. He expoused on this AFTER I let him know as an fyi all his tablets came back as expected. He took the time to chat with me why it's a horrible testing option when compared to HPLC/GC.
Basically what said the same as you, it most definitely can identify a compound but the way FTIR works is not great when multiple compounds/fillers are mixed in to something I think he said it basically shines a light through the sample to indentify stuff.
I can verify that out of 5-6 personal items I sent in they did go 6/6 on getting it correct including one pressed item I knew for a fact was a fake of a pharmaceutical pill.
Some of the things I had them test:
Innovagen Tbol - Came back as Tbol
Pareto 20mg Anavar - Came back as Anavar
It is definitely still an awesome service because it is absolutely free and I do believe they can identify atleast the contents of the pill but you will get and should not rely on any qualitative numbers they put up.
muscletrain
Member
It's definitely not, pretty sure it was founded by some lady who's son OD'd. They have a storefront in downtown vancouver where you can drop off samples and get results back almost instantly. It's meant more as a harm reduction service. They even give the junkies their sample back if they only need a tiny amount.\
Funniest result I've seen on their is a sample tested as a heroin pebble result: "appears to be an actual rock"
They also can identify steroids if you look at their results but can not tell you the mg/amount in your sample.
If you are super sketched out you can email them for their mailing address and just follow their instructions to mail in as many as you want to have tested.
janoshik
Subscriber
Oh lord.
RunTrenFckTens
Member
I sent in anavar from Pareto came back as var, but the nolva and aromasin came back as sucrose. The dose may have been too low in the pill for the FTIR to read. Genetec oils all came back as EQ and Test C and Cialis was good.
That's pretty odd regarding the pills! All my buddies have sent in their orals and they all showed the compounds and the fillers. 5mg lady var came back positive so it's pretty precise I thinks.
RunTrenFckTens
Member
The FTIR can detect I think as low as 5% so if its a 300mg pill and there's only 12.5mg of Aromasin or even 20mg of Nolvadex it might not detect them. It's also hard to say how evenly distributed the API is, so maybe the amount they tested just happened to have no API. I know they do not use a lot for the test. I was in a pinch at the time and needed an AI and couldn't wait for international. Won't use UGL AI's or Nolva moving forward, ever.
It should detect all pills bro. I'd be demanding your money back from whatever lab you got the sugar pills from!
RunTrenFckTens
Member
Me and @muscletrain went over this with pareto, he was using sugar with cellulose for hardening or something. The anavar even contained sugar. As Jano said FTIR is not reliable so I would never be able to get money back lol.
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If your orals are from Pareto I must be wrong then cause I'm using Pareto asin and it's great and their var is fucking outstanding!
I think a lot of labs use sugar as a tablet binder. Most of the tabs i get are sort of sweet
muscletrain
Member
Yes not like table sugar but Pareto said its a sucrose binder they switched to. Not sure on the asin/Nolva, my 20mg tablets came back with var so a 12.5mg asin/20mg nolva I'd figure would show up.
Just a heads up for people that use this service, they cannot accurately identify test U and possibly other steroid raws considering test U can back as test E and nandrolone.
The test U raws are from @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals
The test U raws are from @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals
Qingdao Sigma Chemicals
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janoshik
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Well, when the thread popped up in 2020 I chimed in on FTIR, saying it's pretty much only good for ID.
But then, it needs to have the compound in high enough concentration (so that pretty much leaves only raws that can be tested with a high enough confidence IMO) and have the compound in the database.
Apparently, they don't have test u in their database and it had shown them the closest hits and then they did some weird and crazy fuckery to get the "quantities." Can't blame them for not having the test u in database, really, but it only goes on to show what a fuckery quantitation without expertise on FTIR is.
Sample in question:
janoshik
Subscriber
Thinking about it, it is entirely possible that the said "quantitation" is some sort of cookie cutter automatic function of the FTIR machine they have, which is, quite unfortunately, often taken at face value by inexperienced operators.
I don't approve of such careless approach to analyses of compounds with potentially very harmful effects on human body.
I don't approve of such careless approach to analyses of compounds with potentially very harmful effects on human body.
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