Candidate for 08 ?

I can't decide between obama and clinton, the black guy, or the white woman................lets think about it[:o)]
 
Kayz said:
Is Tancredo the one who is all about immigration reform?? I like him, but I'm not sure where he stand on everything else.
If he has 0 chance of winning ,,, WHY worry about it???
 
jsupstarz said:
If he has 0 chance of winning ,,, WHY worry about it???

Because I like to be informed and I enjoy politics. I never said I was voting for him or that he was going to win. I've seen him on TV talking about immigration, but that's all he talks about (he makes a lot of sense too). I would still like to know where he stands relative to the other candidates.
 
I used to be interested but ever since I was in the army I don't give a shit about what any of them say anymore, just glad bush is going
 
Kayz said:
Obama was on fire until people started to learn about him and then he cooled off. I think democrats are over-estimating both Obama and Clinton. Clinton has a ton of baggage and is fake as shit and it will show. Obama is a 2 year senator riding the black wave. Can anyone tell me Obama stands on the issues??? He's done an excellent job at dodging the issues because he has to "feel the american people out" before he can take a stance.

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I looked at the paper last night(Sun Times, the "minority paper") and they're claiming that Barrack is Irish by decent. Shiiiiiiiit, even the coloreds are calling him names. He's done.
 
Grizzly said:
I looked at the paper last night(Sun Times, the "minority paper") and they're claiming that Barrack is Irish by decent. Shiiiiiiiit, even the coloreds are calling him names. He's done.

yeah, and by decent I'm 1/64 native american. And that still wasn't good enough to get a "minority scholarship" despite the fact that the white man killed my people and stole my land.:D
 
Kayz said:
yeah, and by decent I'm 1/64 native american. And that still wasn't good enough to get a "minority scholarship" despite the fact that the white man killed my people and stole my land.:D
descent
 
That is the problem with this country now. Repubs are just concern about who they can place in the forefront to beat the Demorcratic Nominee. Not who is the best Republican candidate period to be elected president. That is why we are stuck with Bush now. Repubs wanted to beat the Clinton Regime so badly and ward off a possible Hillary presidential running that they railroaded the best Republican candidate in the 2000 race(John McCain) just to elect someone to beat Gore and they had to cheat do just that.
 
novicebb said:
That is the problem with this country now. Repubs are just concern about who they can place in the forefront to beat the Demorcratic Nominee. Not who is the best Republican candidate period to be elected president. That is why we are stuck with Bush now. Repubs wanted to beat the Clinton Regime so badly and ward off a possible Hillary presidential running that they railroaded the best Republican candidate in the 2000 race(John McCain) just to elect someone to beat Gore and they had to cheat do just that.
Wow you must be living in your own little wonderland. You said "Clinton Regime" lol, Bill was a good President but Hillary's a fake idiot.
Best Republican candidate (John McCain), double LOL
Repubs had to cheat to beat Gore, thats the dumbest thing ever said on the meso board besides, "anyone know any good supplements for working your biceps?"
 
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role model said:
Wow you must be living in your own little wonderland. You said "Clinton Regime" lol, Bill was a good President but Hillary's a fake idiot.
Best Republican candidate (John McCain), double LOL
Repubs had to cheat to beat Gore, thats the dumbest thing ever said on the meso board besides, "anyone know any good supplements for working your biceps?"

Well I am amused by your comments that I am in my own little wonderland and would be offended by your remarks if shown or added any intellectual support for your subjective statments.

First did I say that John McCain is the best republican candidate for the 2008 presidential run? No, I did not! In 2000 presidential run, John McCain was clearly the forerunner, the republican favorite and the best presidential candiate for republication nomination. John McCain lost steam and in essence the republican nomination during the lead up to the South Carolina Caucus with some questionable campaigning by the bush campaign staff.
Those are facts. Also facts are that John McCain is a graduate of U.S. Naval Academy, has a 22 year millitary career, has been an Arizona Senator since 1987, was elected to congress in 1982 and has foreign policy experience.

Before the 2000 presidential campaign, George W Bush had questionable past, failed business ventures, was investigated by the SEC for possible inside trading. His only political experience was limited involvement in his father's 88' presidential campaign, one time term as Texas Governor, no foreign policy or other political experience.

Please tell me how he was a better republican candidate then John McCain despite what your personal opinions are of John McCain III and his political views.

The reason I stated Clinton regime is because the Clinton administration included more than just Bill Clinton himself but his wife, advisors,staff members, cabinet staff and more. Gore was a part of the two consecutive term of Bill Clinton and some of the staff members, friends and cabinet members that had posts under Bill Clinton would have been giving posts under Gore. There is a good chance that George Stephanopoulos would have been giving Press Sec or some other Cabinet post under Gore instead of the lead political correspondent for ABC news.

Hillary Clinton is a two term elected Senator for the State of New York and won both campaigns by large percentage points, has contributed to Bill Clintons success as an Arkansas Governor and as U.S President and has degree from Wellesley College and is a Ivy League graduate in the law program and was a lawyer. I would hardly called her an idiot. Maybe your statements are idiotic but she is no idiot.
 
novicebb said:
Well I am amused by your comments that I am in my own little wonderland and would be offended by your remarks if shown or added any intellectual support for your subjective statments.

First did I say that John McCain is the best republican candidate for the 2008 presidential run? No, I did not! In 2000 presidential run, John McCain was clearly the forerunner, the republican favorite and the best presidential candiate for republication nomination. John McCain lost steam and in essence the republican nomination during the lead up to the South Carolina Caucus with some questionable campaigning by the bush campaign staff.
Those are facts. Also facts are that John McCain is a graduate of U.S. Naval Academy, has a 22 year millitary career, has been an Arizona Senator since 1987, was elected to congress in 1982 and has foreign policy experience.

Before the 2000 presidential campaign, George W Bush had questionable past, failed business ventures, was investigated by the SEC for possible inside trading. His only political experience was limited involvement in his father's 88' presidential campaign, one time term as Texas Governor, no foreign policy or other political experience.

Please tell me how he was a better republican candidate then John McCain despite what your personal opinions are of John McCain III and his political views.

The reason I stated Clinton regime is because the Clinton administration included more than just Bill Clinton himself but his wife, advisors,staff members, cabinet staff and more. Gore was a part of the two consecutive term of Bill Clinton and some of the staff members, friends and cabinet members that had posts under Bill Clinton would have been giving posts under Gore. There is a good chance that George Stephanopoulos would have been giving Press Sec or some other Cabinet post under Gore instead of the lead political correspondent for ABC news.

Hillary Clinton is a two term elected Senator for the State of New York and won both campaigns by large percentage points, has contributed to Bill Clintons success as an Arkansas Governor and as U.S President and has degree from Wellesley College and is a Ivy League graduate in the law program and was a lawyer. I would hardly called her an idiot. Maybe your statements are idiotic but she is no idiot.

John McCain might be a good person, but has never really been in the running as far as I'm concerned.
Just so you know I voted for Bill Clinton both times but cannot stand Gore.

Everything you said about Bush you can also say about Hilliary, plus more! With questionable land deals where she made hundreds of thousands, if not more, questionable commodity dealings in coffee I think it was, where she also was investigated. Oh ya, and whats Hilliary's foreign policy? About the same as Nancy Pelosi's. Hilliary changes her mind with every different type group she speaks to. A phony, manipulator is all she is.

And by the way, Giuliani would have beaten Hilliary the first go around if he didn't have to withdraw because of cancer.

For your last comment about how educated Hilliary is; all the education in the world means nothing if you cannot be trusted. My opinion is, that shes a snake and will do anything to get what she wants, no matter what.
 
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OMG does any one read? I never said that Hilliary was a great presidential candidate nor did I try to compare her to Bush. I just questioned why someone would call her an idiot with her education and law degree. Did I say that John McCain is a great presidential candidate? No I did not. But compared to Bush in 2000 he was the better of the two no question.
 
novicebb said:
OMG does any one read? I never said that Hilliary was a great presidential candidate nor did I try to compare her to Bush. I just questioned why someone would call her an idiot with her education and law degree. Did I say that John McCain is a great presidential candidate? No I did not. But compared to Bush in 2000 he was the better of the two no question.

LOL, Did I say that you said shes a great Prez candidate?
You said she was a major part of the Clinton Regime. LOL again.
Ok shes not an idiot, Hilliary's a conniving bitch.
 
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I don't know>>>> I like obama and clinton, but obama just seems to republican like for me in some ways, give hillary a try for 8 years, cuz it seems like no matter if people are horrid presidents these days that get 8 year terms soo.............
 
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