Car dealers are fucking scumbags

Demondosage

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Why are car dealers such fucking morons? I'm shopping for a car for my daughter and we find one online, drive an hour to the dealer. This is after we call them to make sure it's still available.

Get there and the idiot sales manager walks out with a piece of notebook paper and a pen and takes down her name and # real quick. Then hands us off to "the senior salesman". He asks us for the stock # and then leaves us sitting there for 30 minutes while he looks for the car, which obviously he can't find. Before all of this he explains that it's priced the way it is because it's a certified preowned.

The dickhead returns just to tell me that they just took the car in and haven't looked at it yet. I said ,"Then why did you tell me it's certified if you guys hadn't inspected it yet? Why the hell did your sales manager talk to me on the phone abt this exact car and have me drive a fucking hour here just to hear this shit? And why the hell are you even advertising it yet and pricing it?"

So he tells us that we can still look at it and talk abt the price, hahaha. We walk outside to look at the thing and he leaves us out there for another 20 minutes alone. I said fuck this, let's go. Don't even get a damn phone call back abt it!

I don't think they like it when you try to negotiate price first before you test drive it, and they damn sure don't like it when you tell them you aren't interested in answering "what are you looking at for your monthly payments to be?"

As soon as they realize you're not playing their stupid little game they assume let you walk out. Real simple fuckface, let's agree to a cash price, give me the interest rate, I can do my own math, and if it's honest I'll buy the fucking thing! This is simple math here and they assume everyone is a fucking moron that cannot figure it out.

Go to the next place, shake the sales managers hand and introduce myself, and the first thing I hear is ,"Ok, we aren't supposed to be shaking hands right now but ok" I said to my daughter ,"nope, they don't wanna sell a car today, let's go!"

If you don't play their stupid little game in the exact order they want you to play it, they honestly don't know how to sell a god damn car. They don't know their own inventory anymore because they're too lazy to walk the lot! And man, the amount of stacked vehicles on those lots is insane rt now, most of them aren't moving shit!! YOU WOULD THINK when they get someone that gets straight down to it they would be pleasant to work with. Nope!! Pieces of fucking shit!! And my own father was in this business for 30 yrs and I'm saying this shit!
 
Firstly, I dont ever recommend anyone go to dealerships for their cars. Never new nor preowned. Don't ever be the one to take a depreciation cost.

Secondly, never let them know your thinking of paying with cash. Only tell them you will talk about finances once they present a deal in writing and you're sitting in the financial managers room. They make money now off their extra bullshit products and services. Once they know you're paying cash, they don't give a shit about you because they won't be able to tack on all the bullshit items. Hence why they treated you the way they did.

Dealerships flip cars more quickly than one might think. Most of the prices they put online are not real prices, it's a bait and switch. It's to get you in the door and have them start the process of bending you over. In addition, most of these cars are gone as they come in, possibly within the week if not a few days. Hence why half the guys don't even know where the car is or even about it most of the time.

Find a buddy with is mechanically inclined and go look for some cars from personal sellers. Autotempest is great way to find all cars in your area through one search engine.

I used to work for a dealership. Not long because of the scummy shit they do. I left. Although I'm also very mechanically inclined and a car guy. If you have any questions I would be happy to help you. Good luck and don't deal with dealerships. Cash is not king in that business anymore, financing is.
 
If you can wait for a few months I would. It looks like a bunch of rental car places, not just Hertz, are going under. I would NOT buy a used rental car but when they come to market it will drive down the prices of everything else. October should be a good month for the buyer.
 
Firstly, I dont ever recommend anyone go to dealerships for their cars. Never new nor preowned. Don't ever be the one to take a depreciation cost.

Secondly, never let them know your thinking of paying with cash. Only tell them you will talk about finances once they present a deal in writing and you're sitting in the financial managers room. They make money now off their extra bullshit products and services. Once they know you're paying cash, they don't give a shit about you because they won't be able to tack on all the bullshit items. Hence why they treated you the way they did.

Dealerships flip cars more quickly than one might think. Most of the prices they put online are not real prices, it's a bait and switch. It's to get you in the door and have them start the process of bending you over. In addition, most of these cars are gone as they come in, possibly within the week if not a few days. Hence why half the guys don't even know where the car is or even about it most of the time.

Find a buddy with is mechanically inclined and go look for some cars from personal sellers. Autotempest is great way to find all cars in your area through one search engine.

I used to work for a dealership. Not long because of the scummy shit they do. I left. Although I'm also very mechanically inclined and a car guy. If you have any questions I would be happy to help you. Good luck and don't deal with dealerships. Cash is not king in that business anymore, financing is.
You are correct. The finance manager tried charging my daughter an extra 42$ a month for gap insurance. I said no, that's ridiculous.

Then it suddenly turned into "well if I can get you my discount and do it for 30$ a month....." nope, sorry.

I know she got a better rate than what they came back with, and I know they didn't need any downpayment either. Usually that money down is going straight into their pockets anyways, not whats needed to secure a loan!

Oh well, they're really going to dislike me shortly. We are going to refinance it before her first payment and they'll have nothing but chargebacks for all of their fees and bullshit. Fuck em!
 
You've kind of got it backwards. Cash buys are good, but don't tell them you're paying cash until you've settled on a price.

Let them think you're financing, the finance office is where they try to fuck you hard. Don't agree to a doc fee of more than $95, which is already high, and don't pay any stupid shit like destination fees.

Certified Pre-owned is a scam, and so are body / underbody rust proofing on new cars. Most actually void the paint warranty.

Can totally keep going, spent a lot of time with retired salespeople.
 
Firstly, I dont ever recommend anyone go to dealerships for their cars. Never new nor preowned. Don't ever be the one to take a depreciation cost.

Secondly, never let them know your thinking of paying with cash. Only tell them you will talk about finances once they present a deal in writing and you're sitting in the financial managers room. They make money now off their extra bullshit products and services. Once they know you're paying cash, they don't give a shit about you because they won't be able to tack on all the bullshit items. Hence why they treated you the way they did.

Dealerships flip cars more quickly than one might think. Most of the prices they put online are not real prices, it's a bait and switch. It's to get you in the door and have them start the process of bending you over. In addition, most of these cars are gone as they come in, possibly within the week if not a few days. Hence why half the guys don't even know where the car is or even about it most of the time.

Find a buddy with is mechanically inclined and go look for some cars from personal sellers. Autotempest is great way to find all cars in your area through one search engine.

I used to work for a dealership. Not long because of the scummy shit they do. I left. Although I'm also very mechanically inclined and a car guy. If you have any questions I would be happy to help you. Good luck and don't deal with dealerships. Cash is not king in that business anymore, financing is.

XD

I should've read further down, all very well said.
 
If you can wait for a few months I would. It looks like a bunch of rental car places, not just Hertz, are going under. I would NOT buy a used rental car but when they come to market it will drive down the prices of everything else. October should be a good month for the buyer.

I would.

Some companies sell them like clockwork at 35K miles. I've gotten hooked up with some nice rides at the rental auctions, then flipped them for a nice sum.
 
I would.

Some companies sell them like clockwork at 35K miles. I've gotten hooked up with some nice rides at the rental auctions, then flipped them for a nice sum.
Nah, I didn't tell then I was paying cash, I just didn't let them onto what type of monthly payments I was looking at either. They make the money on the financing and bullshit fees now, not the cars. They price the cars pretty cheap compared to what they used to, but doc fees are basically free money to a dealership. This place charged 789- for a doc fee. Many dealers simply refuse to drop that doc fee. Some will, others won't. So a lot of the "no haggle" places will do this kind of shit!
 
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