Cardiac MRI Results (need help understanding)

[bananafeet]

250 test c
100 primo e
3iu gh daily
10mg reta weekly

Bodyweight is approximately 93kg at 174cm

Morning blood pressure is 115/75 and 75 rhr

What's your take from this? (Apologies for hijacking, I think the contribution of examples could be useful to discussion)

Bro I'm not a doctor. I would lose sleep at night if I found out people were relying on my advice.

What Is Pulse Pressure?

Pulse pressure is the difference between your top and bottom blood pressure numbers. It can tell your provider about your heart health.

my.clevelandclinic.org

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.117.007621

 

[shredded.lyfe]

Bro I'm not a doctor. I would lose sleep at night if I found out people were relying on my advice.

What Is Pulse Pressure?

Pulse pressure is the difference between your top and bottom blood pressure numbers. It can tell your provider about your heart health.

my.clevelandclinic.org

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.117.007621

Well looks like I'm consistently on 40 pulse pressure week to week

 

[Elektrobot]

Have you ever checked your vitamin d when you do bloodwork?

Is it low?

 

[psauce]

The bad news is, this is exactly what one would expect from abuse of AAS. The good news is, it's usually reversible.

Also, stick with your physician group. This is excellent by the standard of radiology reports. You're getting good care... now drop the gear and fix this shit.

 

[Photon]

In all honesty I’ve only been enhanced for 2 years now. Dude I’m working with is confident I’ll be competing at a national level by the end of this year.

Maybe not now with the health things going on, but we’ll see how my bloods look in couple days

I’m truly hoping the heart issues are simply from letting my blood pressure run wild like banana feet had mentioned

Are you still blasting?
LVH can be regressed so it's not that bad if caught early.

Get your bp in check
Look at adding either eplerenone or spiro.

 

[benjaminnetenyahu]

The bad news is, this is exactly what one would expect from abuse of AAS. The good news is, it's usually reversible.

Also, stick with your physician group. This is excellent by the standard of radiology reports. You're getting good care... now drop the gear and fix this shit.

Thanks brother, glad to hear I’m in good hands with my cardiac doctors.

I heard banana guys opinion on this but I’d also like to hear yours (not dogging on you banana guy, you’re cool)

If I take some time off on TRT, enough time to reverse the damage, if I got back on cycle and continued blasting, would all of these symptoms go back to exactly how they were, and then continue to progress further? Or would I essentially be starting from 0 damage again?

I suppose essentially the bigger question is, if I care about my heart health, is this the end of my PED usage?

 

[juicebro]

Thanks brother, glad to hear I’m in good hands with my cardiac doctors.

I heard banana guys opinion on this but I’d also like to hear yours (not dogging on you banana guy, you’re cool)

If I take some time off on TRT, enough time to reverse the damage, if I got back on cycle and continued blasting, would all of these symptoms go back to exactly how they were, and then continue to progress further? Or would I essentially be starting from 0 damage again?

I suppose essentially the bigger question is, if I care about my heart health, is this the end of my PED usage?

Out of curiosity I analyzed your results with AI.

Did you have covid or some kind of an infection? I don't think this is related to AAS at all. There's somer athletic remodeling that even natties but there's more there than that.

Bottom line​

• This is not normal athlete’s heart
• This is not explained by AAS
• This is pathologic until proven otherwise
• Likely inflammatory myocardial injury
• Potentially reversible, but not something to ignore

Why a cruise will NOT help​

A cruise means continued androgen exposure. Even “mild” testosterone:

• Increases blood volume and preload
• Increases myocardial oxygen demand
• Increases sympathetic tone
• Can worsen myocardial inflammation
• Can suppress proper ventricular recovery

None of that helps a heart with:

• Active myocardial edema
• Global hypokinesis
• Depressed biventricular EF

If this were simple athlete’s heart, cruising would be neutral.

This is not athlete’s heart.

I'm not a doctor and I don't know how big of a deal it really is but according to chatgpt it can only be fixed if you stop training, no AAS at all, no stims + meds.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Thanks brother, glad to hear I’m in good hands with my cardiac doctors.

I heard banana guys opinion on this but I’d also like to hear yours (not dogging on you banana guy, you’re cool)

If I take some time off on TRT, enough time to reverse the damage, if I got back on cycle and continued blasting, would all of these symptoms go back to exactly how they were, and then continue to progress further? Or would I essentially be starting from 0 damage again?

I suppose essentially the bigger question is, if I care about my heart health, is this the end of my PED usage?

We do know AAS use leads to LVH. However we can't know the severity of it in you the next time you blast. We can make an educated guess that it will be less than before if you implement things like HIIT cardio and keep blood pressure in the normal range. There's no way to prevent it though short of avoiding AAS

 

[xrayphoton13]

Out of curiosity I analyzed your results with AI.

Did you have covid or some kind of an infection? I don't think this is related to AAS at all. There's somer athletic remodeling that even natties but there's more there than that.



I'm not a doctor and I don't know how big of a deal it really is but according to chatgpt it can only be fixed if you stop training, no AAS at all, no stims + meds.

That chatgpt response seems far overblown. However I'm not a doctor. You can definitely reverse lvh on a cruise. Just make sure it's trt and not sports trt or trt+, lol

 

[benjaminnetenyahu]

Out of curiosity I analyzed your results with AI.

Did you have covid or some kind of an infection? I don't think this is related to AAS at all. There's somer athletic remodeling that even natties but there's more there than that.



I'm not a doctor and I don't know how big of a deal it really is but according to chatgpt it can only be fixed if you stop training, no AAS at all, no stims + meds.

The closest thing I could think of to an “infection” is my DNP run.

About 2 weeks prior to the MRI I had just finished a 3 week run of DNP

 

[juicebro]

That chatgpt response seems far overblown. However I'm not a doctor. You can definitely reverse lvh on a cruise. Just make sure it's trt and not sports trt or trt+, lol

But his problem is not LVH. His numbers are somewhat normal. He has some kind of inflammation induced myocardial injury. Perhaps vaccine or covid related?

 

[xrayphoton13]

But his problem is not LVH. His numbers are somewhat normal. He has some kind of inflammation induced myocardial injury. Perhaps vaccine or covid related?

I didn't see any mention of myocardial injury in the report or any mention of contrast enhancement to support infection. Maybe I missed it. Oh, maybe chatgpt got it from the mention of hypokinesis? I dunno

As far as lvh, op should search lvh and in user enter Type-IIx. He has some really good posts on the subject

 

[juicebro]

The closest thing I could think of to an “infection” is my DNP run.

About 2 weeks prior to the MRI I had just finished a 3 week run of DNP

"DNP absolutely can explain this MRI"

I'm sure you know how to use chatgpt and go from there. That's the best case scenario IMO. If you give your heart a break it should go back to normal. If you don't this reversible thing can turn into fibrosis. Once it scars it never turns back to muscle.