Castor oil experiments

[Dxt25]

Back to Castor Oil, has anyone ever tried a mix of Castor and MCT instead of a truckload of BB to thin the oil down? I'm going to use Test D so I don't need a ton of BB to hold my target of 300mg/ml. But I do think I'm going to need to thin out the castor oil a bit to make it easier to work with and I'd like to keep the BB to a minimum.

Id like to know this as well. Or another blend if oils including MCT and? @narta @Sampei @Spaceman Spiff

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Id like to know this as well. Or another blend if oils including MCT and? @narta @Sampei @Spaceman Spiff

idk if it would affect the absorption and overall kill the point of using castor oil.

 

[narta]

Update on pip

TPP/NPP blend 12h mark .5ml shoulder: No pip, not even injection feeling

Test Iso .6ml shoulder 12h mark: no pip, slight injection feeling due to shallow IM

Will report back in 24rh and 48h

 

[Gemini Bandit]

Update on pip

TPP/NPP blend 12h mark .5ml shoulder: No pip, not even injection feeling

I Have read this whole thread and always suffered from PIP especially Primo. After reading all your experiments I started brewing my Primo a month ago in castor with 35%bb and its pretty much changed my life but I was still getting some pain from my TP and NPP in MCT,
so I went ahead and blended TP/NPP 100/100 2/35 and Castor and now nothing, I pin it daily and it used to kick my ass now not even injection feeling 0.5ml delts lats traps glutes it doesn't matter.

You have now got me thinking about 150/150 TP/NPP, I know you are using TPP (I only have TP on hand) but surely the same recipe should work?

 

[narta]

24h mark there slight discomfort nothing major. I ll update again on the 48h mark

You have now got me thinking about 150/150 TP/NPP, I know you are using TPP (I only have TP on hand) but surely the same recipe should work?

150mg TP is pushing it in a blend. I would stay at 100mg. TPP has some bite so far

 

[Dxt25]

Castor oil seems to cause the least allergic reactions too.

As for the no ester brews, it may help with pip and all, but it seems counterproductive to the end goal of using esterless compounds that is fast release. Maybe a 33/33/30 Castor/MCT/BB would mitigate some of the pip and MCT somewhat accelerate the release fro the depot

This is exactly in going to do 50/50 mct and castor and BB at 30

@narta im going through the thread and NPP youve been successful at 30BB at 150mg no problems?

 

[eery]

This is exactly in going to do 50/50 mct and castor and BB at 30

@narta im going through the thread and NPP youve been successful at 30BB at 150mg no problems?

in regards to NPP: Sampei Brewing Journey

looks like @Sampei got his NPP to 200mg/ml without bad pip

 

[Sampei]

in regards to NPP: Sampei Brewing Journey

looks like @Sampei got his NPP to 200mg/ml without bad pip

I suggest tho to increase the BB to 27/30BB because at 25% it crashed badly xD

 

[narta]

48h mark update

PIP is there on both shoulders. Nothing extreme but you know what you pinned and were. It started going down as of now. Test Iso is a bit more stingy than the TPP/NPP blend.

Next injection I will dilute my dosage (.25ml Iso+.5ml TPP/NPP) with .25ml EQ that is pipless. When Methyl Salicylate arrives I will replace the EQ with .1ml of it and go from there

 

[29trt]

48h mark update

PIP is there on both shoulders. Nothing extreme but you know what you pinned and were. It started going down as of now. Test Iso is a bit more stingy than the TPP/NPP blend.

Next injection I will dilute my dosage (.25ml Iso+.5ml TPP/NPP) with .25ml EQ that is pipless. When Methyl Salicylate arrives I will replace the EQ with .1ml of it and go from there

So it's basically BS that you can brew test iso at 400mg and be pipless... I mean if even with a ton of BB it's not great ...
Glad I listened to Chase ..NOT... Wonder how his iso is brewed I'm starting to think that harder solvents are involved....

 

[Sampei]

So it's basically BS that you can brew test iso at 400mg and be pipless... I mean if even with a ton of BB it's not great ...
Glad I listened to Chase ..NOT... Wonder how his iso is brewed I'm starting to think that harder solvents are involved....

I don't think any harder solvents are involved, as harder solvents don't decrease pip (most increase it). Chase probably just lied and test ISO can't be brewed pipless at 400mg

 

[VakarianSK]

I don't think any harder solvents are involved, as harder solvents don't decrease pip (most increase it). Chase probably just lied and test ISO can't be brewed pipless at 400mg

I could be wrong but I don't think Chase never ended up trying the test iso. I think he was saving it as a last resort but never ended up needing it because he was able to get the job done with alot of test pip. So I'm not sure if he ever tried it.

 

[eery]

I could be wrong but I don't think Chase never ended up trying the test iso. I think he was saving it as a last resort but never ended up needing it because he was able to get the job done with alot of test pip. So I'm not sure if he ever tried it.

From his most recent interview on the fitnation podcast, i think he said he was using just cypionate during his high testosterona blast so you might be right.

if only we could tag @ChaseIrons ... here and have his input on testosterone isocaproate, its concentration and PIP.

 

[pipo]

Regarding to Chase and test iso he didn't pin just test iso. He had in that syringe test c and eq made at 200 mg/ml that's why it was pipless.
Maybe test iso is pipless at 350 or 300 but it must be tried.

 

[Anonymous35]

Great oil , way less pip
I used it with lots of painfull coumpound like tren a or dhb
Very low or no pip at all crazy

 

[Dxt25]

@narta @Sampei so I tried a test 400 blend which is basically equal parts cyp, d and iso. I made it with a 50/50 blend of MCT and Castor, with a ratio of ba and bb of 2/30. It was very smooth pinning and absolutely no PIP. I made the same test blend in a 250mg per ml using only MCT and ba/bb at 2/26 and it gave me pip for a couple days, it was not bad but just uncomfortable enough for me to say this sucks and toss it. I will be using that test 400 blend for my blast and TRT, its very very smooth just still a tad thick which is ok. I dont know if doing a 60/40 blend of MCT and Castor will still give me “pipless” results? Any ideas? Thanks. This was my first time trying with castor and that shit just to get it into the syringe was thick as fuck I dont know how you guys use just castor. Im just happy it came out smooth and pipless at a higher MG blend. Thank you to @Dirthand @Sampei @narta and @Spaceman Spiff for your logs as I used knowledge from all of your brews!

 

[Sampei]

@narta @Sampei so I tried a test 400 blend which is basically equal parts cyp, d and iso. I made it with a 50/50 blend of MCT and Castor, with a ratio of ba and bb of 2/30. It was very smooth pinning and absolutely no PIP. I made the same test blend in a 250mg per ml using only MCT and ba/bb at 2/26 and it gave me pip for a couple days, it was not bad but just uncomfortable enough for me to say this sucks and toss it. I will be using that test 400 blend for my blast and TRT, its very very smooth just still a tad thick which is ok. I dont know if doing a 60/40 blend of MCT and Castor will still give me “pipless” results? Any ideas? Thanks. This was my first time trying with castor and that shit just to get it into the syringe was thick as fuck I dont know how you guys use just castor. Im just happy it came out smooth and pipless at a higher MG blend. Thank you to @Dirthand @Sampei @narta and @Spaceman Spiff for your logs as I used knowledge from all of your brews!

With 35BB% castor brew are easy to handle, with lower BB concentration and maybe high gear concentration it can get a bit annoying.

For drawing it in the syringe to measure it during brewing use 15G needles that's the only way to not wait ages and draw into syringes pure COLD castor oil. That shit is thick as yogurt lol

Awesome thing that you tried the 50/50 and it does nullify the PIP.

It will be something I have to experiment more as well. Even so MCT only is treating me quite well.

Try a mix of only test D and test C with only MCT, I bet you will find it pipless. I believe it's the ISO requiring castor to make it milder on the PIP side.

Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work!

 

[Dxt25]

With 35BB% castor brew are easy to handle, with lower BB concentration and maybe high gear concentration it can get a bit annoying.

For drawing it in the syringe to measure it during brewing use 15G needles that's the only way to not wait ages and draw into syringes pure COLD castor oil. That shit is thick as yogurt lol

Awesome thing that you tried the 50/50 and it does nullify the PIP.

It will be something I have to experiment more as well. Even so MCT only is treating me quite well.

Try a mix of only test D and test C with only MCT, I bet you will find it pipless. I believe it's the ISO requiring castor to make it milder on the PIP side.

Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work!

Im just afraid to go higher on the BB lol. I feel itll cause PIP. Then again IDK. Mct usually gives me no pip but the blend at 250mg I did not like. Then I said to myself let me try a 50/50 blend at a higher MG and it came out awesome! I was pleasantly surprised. I even made sust at 250mg in MCT and it was also pipless.

Next time ill try 35BB to thin it out a bit more.

I honestly have fun making little brews. I also like to do blends. Next ill try is test iso/npp and iso/eq. Just have to get some LOL.

If you want to send that test d to Jano let me know brother ill chip in as you and I most likely have the same batch!

 

[Sampei]

Im just afraid to go higher on the BB lol. I feel itll cause PIP. Then again IDK. Mct usually gives me no pip but the blend at 250mg I did not like. Then I said to myself let me try a 50/50 blend at a higher MG and it came out awesome! I was pleasantly surprised. I even made sust at 250mg in MCT and it was also pipless.

Next time ill try 35BB to thin it out a bit more.

I honestly have fun making little brews. I also like to do blends. Next ill try is test iso/npp and iso/eq. Just have to get some LOL.

If you want to send that test d to Jano let me know brother ill chip in as you and I most likely have the same batch!

Ill be sending it soon, I'll keep you posted thanks for the help.

You don't need to use 35% BB if you mix MCT and castor 50/50.

35% BB or higher is for 100% Castor brews only.

You already have the MCT thinning things out of you mix it with castor.

High BB is not creating more PIP. Bayer nebido is 50% BB. Rimo 35% BB
Testoviron is 35 or 40% BB

 

[Dxt25]

Ill be sending it soon, I'll keep you posted thanks for the help.

You don't need to use 35% BB if you mix MCT and castor 50/50.

35% BB or higher is for 100% Castor brews only.

You already have the MCT thinning things out of you mix it with castor.

High BB is not creating more PIP. Bayer nebido is 50% BB. Rimo 35% BB
Testoviron is 35 or 40% BB

So ill just keep it at 30 and heat it up before using it. I used 26g and it flowed good.