Catch 22 for new sources

[master.on]

Watched a Doc last night on this issue and was surprised to see the numbers. The pics are creepy to see...

Completely Surreal Photos Of America's Abandoned Malls

Two things right off of the bat - this is a theoretical post with theoretical questions. Also, I am NOT trying to be a source here - this isn't what this place is for (even though many use it that way).

So, theoretically speaking, let's say there was a student studying chem for pre-med that eventually had to drop out. This student was also a huge juice head and he and his friends would often partake in using said juice. One day, one of his friends got the bright idea that chem student should make his own gear and save all of the friends money (cheaper anyway and no chance of UGL ripping you off). So after pondering this for a very, very long time, said student decide to ONLY look into it.

Looking into it slowly turns into obsessing over the idea. The guy researches, researches ad researches. After long enough, and getting ripped off from a UGL for the last time, the guy decides to go through with it. Finding a raw source prove to be even more difficult than finding a solid UGL. But alas, he finds the perfect source through a struck of luck.

From that point on, guy makes gear that mimics pharma in quality and friends rejoice. Eventually, one of the friends persuades guy into becoming a source.

Source, having agreed, looks into it, and decides it would be a good idea. Of course, hours, days and weeks of researching ensue to make sure all parties remain safe.

But then, theoretic source ends up here. Where does a source begin? A source that offers everything under the sun. Better products at lesser prices. How does that source make a start? Somewhere like eroids wants you to have a successful website or something for a considerable period of time first. Even if source DID start website, there would be next to no traffic.

So, in theory, if there was a solid source, that sold better products for cheaper amounts, how would that little company even get started? Seems to be a catch 22. I'm not going to just come on here and open shop and piss people off. But any advice is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you!

Info just for informational, bullshitional and hypotheticalinal purposes
I'm not advocating to break any laws


Reddit?
Eroids?

Brewing is easy.
Top quality gear entirely depends on the raws source

Many top sources only have an Email
they heavily shill boards though

LE surf boards, make a few undercover purchases, test it, and begin investigation
They watch 3 things
in that order AFAIK

1 Mail from location
Dropboxes are safer. Pay in cash. Switch locations very often even if that means a long drive. Mail only once or twice a week. Avoid places with surveillance cameras. Leave your phone at home (or fully wrap it Aluminum foil) as LE determines which phones were near the mail locations in those days, a full match guarantees they found the suspect.

2 Receiving cash
Any domestic source receiving money domestically is an idiot to be caught ASAP.
Top sources only cash abroad, they have dozens of people (most with fake IDs) who go to banks to collect WU/MG transfers, or to withdraw from their btc accounts.
Then they transfer money FROM ABROAD to both Raw powder wholesalers, and domestic remailers, obviously paying cash.

3 Internet communications
As in cash
Any domestic source answering customers Emails domestically is an idiot to be caught ASAP.
Top sources only check emails abroad, with a paid-in-cash, prepaid phone or modem.
Then they just send their remailers encrypted Emails with customers orders from a different device/IP.

Do you have all that, already?
Even if you did
I say don't do it
You've been warned

 

[CdnGuy]

 

[betterthanyesterday1]

I am NOT trying or even willing to sell here. Just looking for advice.

To those of you that did try to offer advice, thank you.

 

[Gbro]

If you do go ahead with this tv show, please don't include all the prison rape scenes like Sons of Anarchy.

 

[master.on]

I am NOT trying or even willing to sell here. Just looking for advice.

To those of you that did try to offer advice, thank you.

Have you ever heard the word NSA???
EVERY single phone call, Email, or Internet activity is recorded by them, even if not actively monitored. It's insane.
When sources get LE attention they just look up the date and approximate time and press Play (Display) and boom EVERYTHING is there to serve as evidence for arrest/trial, even if there was no prior judge order to begin recording your activities.

By the way I wonder what would happen if I Googled 'How to fuck a hot NSA agent'?
Would I get something like this knocking my door an hour later?

If you do go ahead with this tv show, please don't include all the prison rape scenes like Sons of Anarchy.

Best advice ever.


P.S.
And I DO want to fuck a smoking-hot NSA agent. I prefer blondes.
Oh and by NSA agent I mean a FEMALE one. These days you have to explain the obvious LOL.

 

[getbig1974]

Well to be honest most sources here get beat up nature of the group around here. You have the usual douche bags berate you and act like tools. That said if your domestic payment is a problem how you going to accept payment over $300 western union requires ID and what you gonna do use different western unions all over your state? even you get friends to do if they get caught guess who's next you, then your email and mailing list, unless you have someone over seas and then if they catch on western union will lock the accounts sometime or your guy steals your money. Maybe bitcoin but not widely used so think hard my friend a domestic source even with powder from china still a risk. Perhaps you've seen postal police in certain states they really go through the mail. So it's a toss up if you got it figured out maybe might make it but in the last 5 years most powder sources I have seen posting a few on here and selling usually eventually screw you then you sell bad product. And there's a ton of home brewers already selling for like $30-40 a pop like gear pro, so that said if you think you can make serious money versus jail time as a felony with counts of postal fraud amongst money laundering and other federal Rico charges worth maybe an extra 20k a year I'd say get a job it's easier and safer leave the sourcing to overseas guys and resellers. Plus, the competition is so fierce for shelf space you won't make any real money. Ive been ordering from overseas forever one seizure long time ago that's it. Get your diploma and get a job better luck selling bullshit sarms peptides and supplements than gear now a days.

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

Well to be honest most sources here get beat up nature of the group around here. That said if your domestic payment is a problem how you going to accept payment over $300 western union requires ID even you get friends to do if they get caught get who's next you then your email and mailing list unless you have someone over seas and then if they catch on western union will lock the accounts sometime. Maybe bitcoin but not widely used so think hard my friend a domestic source even with powder from china still a risk. Perhaps you've seen postal police in certain states they really go through the mail. So it's a toss up you got it figured out maybe might make it but in the last 5 years most powder sources I have seen posting and selling usually eventually screw you then you sell bad product. And there's a ton of home brewers already selling for like $40 a pop so that said if you think you can make serious money versus jail time as a felony with counts of postal fraud amongst money laundering and other charges worth maybe an extra 20k a year I'd say get a job it's easier and safer

Why are you here?

 

[getbig1974]

To lurk why are you here since nov 2016 doing ? Lol just posting like you

 

[getbig1974]

Occasional catch a good post from people but they are few and far between now a days usually lots of newbie posts but I can always learn something

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

Occasional catch a good post from people but they are few and far between now a days usually lots of newbie posts but I can always learn something

Lol bro...i thought you were OP...nevermind

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Leave your phone at home (or fully wrap it Aluminum foil) as LE determines which phones were near the mail

Sigh. You're confused again, Master Bates. The tinfoil is for your head, not your phone.

I think the signal from the mothership is being scrambled by the NSA before it reaches you and it's making you short-circuit. Try adjusting your pineal antenna, it might help.

 

[Gbro]

Insert the antenna directly to your prostate- it works better. Just ask uncle daddy.

 

[master.on]

Well to be honest most sources here get beat up nature of the group around here. You have the usual douche bags berate you and act like tools. That said if your domestic payment is a problem how you going to accept payment over $300 western union requires ID and what you gonna do use different western unions all over your state? even you get friends to do if they get caught guess who's next you, then your email and mailing list, unless you have someone over seas and then if they catch on western union will lock the accounts sometime or your guy steals your money. Maybe bitcoin but not widely used so think hard my friend a domestic source even with powder from china still a risk. Perhaps you've seen postal police in certain states they really go through the mail. So it's a toss up if you got it figured out maybe might make it but in the last 5 years most powder sources I have seen posting a few on here and selling usually eventually screw you then you sell bad product. And there's a ton of home brewers already selling for like $30-40 a pop like gear pro, so that said if you think you can make serious money versus jail time as a felony with counts of postal fraud amongst money laundering and other federal Rico charges worth maybe an extra 20k a year I'd say get a job it's easier and safer leave the sourcing to overseas guys and resellers. Plus, the competition is so fierce for shelf space you won't make any real money. Ive been ordering from overseas forever one seizure long time ago that's it. Get your diploma and get a job better luck selling bullshit sarms peptides and supplements than gear now a days.

Well said.

Domestic sources get little money for the risk
selling steroids leaves a HUGE paper/digital/postal/surveillance camera trail.

IMO domestic sources will disappear.
Perhaps only worth the risk for GH, PCT meds, SARMS, peptides, etc where you'd only get a FDA letter.

Sigh. You're confused again, Master Bates. The tinfoil is for your head, not your phone.

I think the signal from the mothership is being scrambled by the NSA before it reaches you and it's making you short-circuit. Try adjusting your pineal antenna, it might help.

OK then take your phone with you
so you get caught.



NSA keeps records the nearest cell tower (thus approximate location) at all times for all phones.
They were supposed to begin tracking people only AFTER they get the warrant

LE make some undercover purchases
when lab tests confirm they are controlled substances indeed
they ask the post office where from and when the package was mailed
When they want to identify the suspect who has been at different specific locations at specific times (dropboxes when packages were mailed ) they just run a data filter
and boom! they get the remailer phone number without them even knowing
call monitoring and triangulation to pinpoint precise location follows shortly.

This is why they always make SEVERAL undercover purchases from the same source.

 

[Texasfighter]

^prime example of why 250ish "likes" shouldn't earn you a WKM status. Does anybody know what the fuck this guy says any time he posts, or how he even managed to get that many likes in the first place?

 

[CdnGuy]

@master.on do you really think that intelligent hustlers use everyday cell phones? lol Smh No clue! Military grade encrypted phones look it up.

 

[jbeg1985]

I know if i was in the buisness of slinging oils i would'nt be using my samsung to do buisness!

 

[TorroXL]

Well to be honest most sources here get beat up nature of the group around here. You have the usual douche bags berate you and act like tools. That said if your domestic payment is a problem how you going to accept payment over $300 western union requires ID and what you gonna do use different western unions all over your state? even you get friends to do if they get caught guess who's next you, then your email and mailing list, unless you have someone over seas and then if they catch on western union will lock the accounts sometime or your guy steals your money. Maybe bitcoin but not widely used so think hard my friend a domestic source even with powder from china still a risk. Perhaps you've seen postal police in certain states they really go through the mail. So it's a toss up if you got it figured out maybe might make it but in the last 5 years most powder sources I have seen posting a few on here and selling usually eventually screw you then you sell bad product. And there's a ton of home brewers already selling for like $30-40 a pop like gear pro, so that said if you think you can make serious money versus jail time as a felony with counts of postal fraud amongst money laundering and other federal Rico charges worth maybe an extra 20k a year I'd say get a job it's easier and safer leave the sourcing to overseas guys and resellers. Plus, the competition is so fierce for shelf space you won't make any real money. Ive been ordering from overseas forever one seizure long time ago that's it. Get your diploma and get a job better luck selling bullshit sarms peptides and supplements than gear now a days.

I'm not gonna lie. Reading this gave me a mild anxiety attack. Pretty scary business... Now I know why a 4$ bottle is sold for 40$. Very informative post. [emoji1303]

 

[MindlessWork]

Hello again Hammer

Good ol Ham Nasty just couldn't stay away lol

 

[master.on]

@master.on do you really think that intelligent hustlers use everyday cell phones? lol Smh No clue! Military grade encrypted phones look it up.

An encrypted (garbled) communication gets an inordinate amount of NSA attention.
They will try to crack it just for the challenge.
Most homebrewers selling on the side are quite broke, even large players like WFN or NAPS are the homeless meth-addict hookers in the illegal drugs underground.

Look at what BILLIONAIRE dictators in rogue countries are doing
they bought the best encrypted phones money can buy, yet NSA still decrypted them.
Any voice communications requires an inordinate amount of random keys to encrypt, more so if real-time.
They would need to plug a different multi-Tb USB hard-drive on EVERY call to be fully undecryptable. Of course the other person will need a copy pf the keys.

Forget all that Hollywood BS. Kingpins don't speak shit over the phone anymore.
At best their helpers will. They are disposable after all.

You won't believe how advanced NSA decyption is they even cracked https
New documents reveal which encryption tools the NSA couldn't crack

Tor was made by the military
Meet Tor, The Military-Made Privacy Network That Counts Edward Snowden As A Fan | The Huffington Post

So an military encrypted phone is an oxymoron.
Don't you think they can decrypt messages sent thru a device they designed themselves? LOL

I'm not gonna lie. Reading this gave me a mild anxiety attack. Pretty scary business... Now I know why a 4$ bottle is sold for 40$. Very informative post. [emoji1303]

More like $6-7 actually
but yes it's just too risky
while selling steroids may or may not be morally wrong, it's still illegal
either terms should top 5 years with all charges, or vials sell for $400 costs remaining the same.

Speaking of ridiculous risk/benefit ratios check this one
The scantily dressed, apparently hungry women solicited two men about 3 a.m. Tuesday, offering sex in exchange for burgers at the McDonald's on Priest and Broadway roads, Tempe Sgt. Jeffrey Glover said Wednesday.
Tempe police: 2 teen girls tried to trade sex for fast food
Glover said the men passed on the invitation, adding that they confirmed to Officer Pablo Guzman that "the ladies were soliciting sex for food."
And rightly so, not much because of legal risk but because who would like to listen them for half an hour or so?

On the flip side
Man Nabbed In Police Sting Arranged To Pay Hooker With McDonald's Quarter Pounder And Fries
Cheap brewers, cheap hookers, cheap customers, damn the economy must be really bad outside

 

[master.on]

Point is domestic sources are dying a (not so) slow death

But an idiot is born every day, so who knows?