T&H
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Have you looked at the sources on the first page of the steroid underground? I mean, seriously there are multiple ones on there selling for $1 an iu. Chances are you didn't spend much time reading thru the threads.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Cheap hgh source
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Iron_Yuppie
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Meso source #1: HPLC tested, 97.9% purity, no dimer, 120iu per kit, $120
Meso source #2: HPLC tested, 97.6% purity, no dimer, 120iu per kit, $110
Meso source #2 (different line): HPLC tested, 96.5% purity, no dimer, 120iu per kit, $130
Meso source #3: HPLC tested, 96.5% purity, dimer 0.003%, 110iu per kit, $125
That’s just on page one, off the top of my head. You’ve never seen it under $3/iu because you apparently have never once bothered even looking.
I found opti now. He only takes bitcoin. I might have to make a wallet because his prices are much cheaper then my original 2 sources
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Rido
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No way!
Iron_Yuppie
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Depends on why the price difference exists in the first place. Sometimes you’ll see a price difference that doesn’t line up with the purity difference. Then you learn that the more expensive one is made in a GMP facility and the other one is not. So there’s a price premium for that.
Also just for the record, a 2% difference in purity can be a big deal with GH. 2% can be the difference between no side effects and some side effects. Or it could be meaningless. Hard to say without knowing ahead of time, so some people will pay more for a better purity product even if it ends up making no meaningful impact one way or the other.
So you guys think that 2% difference causes carpal tunnel and bloat? Not just 2% less powerful.
Iron_Yuppie
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That’s what people seem to think. There are enough anecdotes to make me believe there is at least some merit to it, or at least it’s something that shouldn’t be ignored. My brother-in-law had pretty nasty CTS on his first GH run (~95% purity) and on this run (97%) he doesn’t have any. Is that proof of anything? Eh, not exactly. But it’s worth noting.
How will you even know if
How will I even know if it is real without the carpal tunnel? That's how I previously determined it was legit. Without the carpal tunnel I don't think I would of noticed anything
Just some facts which could be noticed:
1. After some weeks you get weight because your body suck up water
2. Nails and hair grow extremely faster
4. Your blood sugar changes
3. After a time you completely look different
Nevertheless just these things can't show you the purity, the amount per vial and so on. But it shows that something happened. That's the reason why figures taken from the blood are important.
1. After some weeks you get weight because your body suck up water
2. Nails and hair grow extremely faster
4. Your blood sugar changes
3. After a time you completely look different
Nevertheless just these things can't show you the purity, the amount per vial and so on. But it shows that something happened. That's the reason why figures taken from the blood are important.
Rido
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Not everyone gets sides.
That's like saying unless you have elevated liver enzymes, then it's not really Tylenol
I'm just saying that's how I previously knew bud. Now I guess I can look for bloat too but it is hard to tell because other compounds can cause bloat. Hand pain is the easiest way to tell if it is legit gh
T&H
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Sides effects like hand pain is not a reliable indicator. That what the guys on PM say, raving TPs GH is legit from all the "clear" side effects.
Rosconow
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Trollin, trollin, trollin, keep this thead a trollin....
Liska
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If we were able to exclude all other variables affecting this (sleep, other stressors affecting cortisol, carb intake etc., PEDS, supplements), this test should use raws/finished product made by the same producer, requesting that one batch be in the lower 90's, one in the mid 90's and one at 98%. This can be set up realistically but in reality those aforementioned variables are very difficult to control for while being of such significance that I'm doubful we'd get a conclusive outcome, especially not one that can be applied to products made by different producers (and there's no way for the consumer to know where each respective wholeseller or brand sources their HGH from, nor if that's consistent between batches).
There's no need to make it that complicated but sure... however, when carpal tunnel is being experienced from one day to the next after injection, it's obvious and can be noted more-so when the symptoms are gone after dropping the 90%-95% rhgh. Waking up with your hands stiff and wrist pain from one day to the next gives the perfect opportunity to try a truly tested higher purity hgh and take note whether or not the carpal tunnel symptoms occur again and draw a conclusion. (Assuming no other peds / peptides are being used a just hgh)
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Liska
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While that's kind of a broscience approach, if the assumption that using higher purity HGH reduces side effects to a tolerable degrees for everyone holds true, I agree. Usually these things are more complex but nevertheless as a community it would be helpful if we collected even anecdotal data via poll or questionnaire etc. to check for the strength of this assumed correlation.
so having a control doesnt make it bro-science? Having 7 'cat-testers' makes it credible? or 569 doggos with 11 control varibles etcetc? well, at least a solo run with no peds or injectables by credible people who document 'x' days using a 'x%' purity and document the experience. Making it credible doesnt make it bro-science? Idk, but carrier oils too (?) would be a good study too.
I believe its how things are (for now) until the ugl's get more insider info and funds to up their protocols will it improve. and they have improved so its a matter of time.
Because i think the studies conducted with the substances hgh and hcg and its "stability" with "control temperatures" and many other notes.. by you and jano are credible. much appreciated.
It does get complicated, i believe its the nature of being critical. however constructive criticism points in the right direction. 1 step at a time.
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