Was wondering what you guys know about cheque drops. I've done some research and have heard it gives you aggression and it has a short life(2-4hours). I also heard it shouldn't be taken longer then 2 weeks. There is rumours that mike tyson used to take it. So basically it is a pre-workout steroid and you should feel the effects within 30minutes. I am a Muay Thai fighter and what I want to know is: can I just take it an hour before my fight and that's it. I do not want to cycle it at all, I just want to take a low dose before my fight for a little edge in aggression. Will it still have effect taking it like that? And can anyone recommend a dose? Also if there is anything else I need to know feel free to tell me. Thank you.
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I would imagine you should read and decide if the sides are really worth what you gain from it. The only person that can answer the question you asked is yourself.
Good luck,
Walter
I would imagine you should read and decide if the sides are really worth what you gain from it. The only person that can answer the question you asked is yourself.
Good luck,
Walter
Thank you. I understand what your saying and I have done some research and it does seem like quite a dangerous steroid when taken in high doses longer then 2 weeks (cycle). But think about it, I fight maybe every 3-6 months and all I want take is 1 dose just before a fight. I do not want to cycle with it and I wont take it for any other situations. So are you telling me I will get sides from something as small as that? Apart from aggression which I want.
The main answer I really need to know which I couldn't find out in my research is, can it still effect you if you do not cycle and only take it an hour before fight?
There are just so many factors I think it really comes down to your belief system. The drug may not be dosed as you believe. The drug was not intended for fighters so I would imagine no studies on the real effects of the drug in that situation have been done. If it did give you a massive competitive advantage and you hurt your challenger would you be ok with it? The drug just seems really on the edge.
I tend to be risk adverse so I would not touch it. If you are aware of the issues and feel comfortable than you have your answer. Personally I would not risk it.
Seriously though I would continue to read and think about it. Good Luck,
Walter
Stretch
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Just use Halo cheater....
Halo a couple days before your fight and your balls should grow enough to step up.
Halo a couple days before your fight and your balls should grow enough to step up.
IronCore
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You MMA wannabe's make me laugh...[
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First and foremost.. you should NOT be a fighter if you have to use a crutch...
MAN up PUSSY! If you cant fight without help then don't fight!
It is getting real old hearing these wanna be, MMA tough guy's talk bout how bad ass they are... BUT.. they want to take dbol, "hybrid" tren, and anything else that helps get an "edge"...
I seriously doubt these drops will give you much more than a placebo aggression...
I say try it in practice first for about three weeks straight leading into the fight... that way you will know for sure what you are dealing with...
In any event, know that you are a cheater and also know that deep within your cheating heart you are a PUSSY because you cant fight without it...BITCH!
If you do decide to use... tell your opponent to use to so it will be a FAIR fight...
)]First and foremost.. you should NOT be a fighter if you have to use a crutch...
MAN up PUSSY! If you cant fight without help then don't fight!
It is getting real old hearing these wanna be, MMA tough guy's talk bout how bad ass they are... BUT.. they want to take dbol, "hybrid" tren, and anything else that helps get an "edge"...
I seriously doubt these drops will give you much more than a placebo aggression...
I say try it in practice first for about three weeks straight leading into the fight... that way you will know for sure what you are dealing with...
In any event, know that you are a cheater and also know that deep within your cheating heart you are a PUSSY because you cant fight without it...BITCH!
If you do decide to use... tell your opponent to use to so it will be a FAIR fight...
You MMA wannabe's make me laugh...[
First and foremost.. you should NOT be a fighter if you have to use a crutch...
MAN up PUSSY! If you cant fight without help then don't fight!
It is getting real old hearing these wanna be, MMA tough guy's talk bout how bad ass they are... BUT.. they want to take dbol, "hybrid" tren, and anything else that helps get an "edge"...
I seriously doubt these drops will give you much more than a placebo aggression...
I say try it in practice first for about three weeks straight leading into the fight... that way you will know for sure what you are dealing with...
In any event, know that you are a cheater and also know that deep within your cheating heart you are a PUSSY because you cant fight without it...BITCH!
If you do decide to use... tell your opponent to use to so it will be a FAIR fight...
You know what fuck it! I am not going to waste my money on it. Being my first fight and my opponents 5th fight I just wanted to have that edge looking around for shit that will one day back fire on me. Even doe what you said pissed me off and made me feel like dick, it gave me a huge reality slap in my face!!! If I want to go pro I don't need that shit. I should train double as much and harder instead so I go out as if I am on it that shit ready for anyone! All does MMA fighters your talking about that I have just a few hours ago done my research on actually end up losing most fights that they show up positive for. SO FUCK YOU FOR TALKING SHIT BUT THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME REALISE WHAT I SHOULD NOT BE DOING!!!!!
IronCore
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I am so glad I could help... thats the spirit!
.. Welcome to meso! There is much hope for you friend! It really makes me smile when I get a fuck you thanks for helping!
You have made my day!
Good luck with that fight coming up!
Get Some
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I am so glad I could help... thats the spirit!
There is much hope for you friend! It really makes me smile when I get a fuck you thanks for helping!
You have made my day!
Good luck with that fight coming up!
Bump this. The standard response to MMA guys wanting to use AAS to get an "edge" in fighting should be "fuck off." I know that I would feel like shit if I was a fighter and used AAS to help me win the fight. Plus, it's not even necessarily going to help you if you DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT PROPERLY! Unless your source is the same size as you, then you can trust everything he says [
)]Good for you Jay, excellent response. I've been in and around the fight game for a long time bro, and I can honestly tell you the ONLY thing anabolics are good for are helping you heal up from an injury. And believe me, guys have been using them for that very thing for a long time. Alot of guys think AAS are just a bodybuilding thing, but personally i knew guys that were using to heal up back in the 80's...and no, looking back they had no idea what they were doing.
Lets be real here guys. Martial arts isnt a fringe thing anymore. Its more mainstream than boxing now, and while I have very mixed feelings about that, the truth is guys are going to be looking for whatever cheat (edge, whatever) they can get...and alot of them are going to end up here, and places like this. And you know, there are drugs out there that will help them, at least temporarily, and for very specific things. As fucked up as it is, the more competitive and mainstream "MMA" gets, the more abuse and cheating is going to happen.
But is it really cheating? My gut says yes, but then if i wanted to compete in a bodbuilding contest what do you think i would be doing? Thaaaaats right....aas! Seriously, whats the difference? I'm just having a hard time blowing these guys off, its starting to feel kind of hypocritical.
Get Some
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For me, the difference is that bodybuilders use AAS to change their appearance. It really doesn't matter how strong they are when it comes to the competition. However, in the ring, certain AAS use will undoubtedly increase strength, quickness, receovery, etc. NO ONE could compete in IFBB heavyweight events and have a chance at winning without taking steroids. I would highly doubt that anyone could ever get as big and cut as Ronnie Coleman during Mr. Olympia without taking AAS. You would have to be BEYOND a genetic freak. Even Arnold took steroids and he never got as big as Ronnie. On the other side, a fighter CAN beat someone like GSP in the ring without taking AAS.
So, performance based sports are on a different level than "show" sports for me. That's just my $0.02
Stretch
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Jmills...c'mon bro.
The difference is so obvious it's staggering.
If it was a snake it would have bit you an hour ago.
ALL BB's USE AAS....
Not all MMA guys use AAS, that's the biggest difference IMO
jackiebigmur
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if you've ever in a ring and don't have aggression then it's time to get out. I'm all for getting an edge whenever possible but when it comes to fighting in sports- using drugs is cheating. I can't see winning a fight and being happy about it knowing drugs made the difference. The real bad-ass nasty guys like Tyson didn't need aggression drugs- they were born with that mentality.
I hear you guys, and part of me agrees with all of you. But, respectfully I think you guys are missing the point...or maybe i just wasnt clear about whats conflicting me here. Every point being made about fighters using could be made about BBers using. I trained and competed as both a powerlifter and a bodybuilder naturally for years. So, no...not ALL bodybuilders use anabolics. Using AAS is cheating, by definition, no matter the sport since the shit is illegal and banned. So "everyone" does it and that makes it OK? Same argument could be used in the fight game, if thats the general PERCEPTION and it is becoming so more and more. Perception is reality, at least on the level of mental and emotional development of the general populace.
Like I said, hardcore fighters have been using on some level for years and years. Saying you cant be successful at BBing unless you use is more a function of inadequate testing and non enforcement than it is anything else. If the "rules" were enforced then the sport would evolve in a different direction. So isnt it hypocritical to say you shouldnt use if you are a BBer, or a linebacker, or a golfer, or a baseball player....wink wink, hey man you gotta do what ya gotta do...and then on the other hand blast fighters who also use? I realize BBers have gotten a pass for a long time, but that makes it OK?
Like I said, hardcore fighters have been using on some level for years and years. Saying you cant be successful at BBing unless you use is more a function of inadequate testing and non enforcement than it is anything else. If the "rules" were enforced then the sport would evolve in a different direction. So isnt it hypocritical to say you shouldnt use if you are a BBer, or a linebacker, or a golfer, or a baseball player....wink wink, hey man you gotta do what ya gotta do...and then on the other hand blast fighters who also use? I realize BBers have gotten a pass for a long time, but that makes it OK?
Stretch
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You make a good point.
HOWEVER,
As soon as the top MMA fighters start posing in front of "vial-packed refridgerators" then I'll start feeling hypocritical about telling these wannabe MMAers that they are cheating. I don't believe that even half of MMA fighters use anabolics, and I believe it's cheating. It's a contact sport between two men, and that makes it far different than who looks better. at least IMHO.
HOWEVER,
As soon as the top MMA fighters start posing in front of "vial-packed refridgerators" then I'll start feeling hypocritical about telling these wannabe MMAers that they are cheating. I don't believe that even half of MMA fighters use anabolics, and I believe it's cheating. It's a contact sport between two men, and that makes it far different than who looks better. at least IMHO.
IronCore
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You are very correct.. It makes a HUGE difference when one is using the ill gotten strength to pummel his opponent, as to using it to look better... It can seriously be a deadly situation...
Especially if one of those man gropers want to fuck with the CORE!!!...Bitches....[}
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You are very correct.. It makes a HUGE difference when one is using the ill gotten strength to pummel his opponent, as to using it to look better... It can seriously be a deadly situation...
Especially if one of those man huggers want to fuck with the CORE!!!...Bitches....[}
Again, I hear you and I see your point. BUT, what if both of the guys in there are/have juiced? Thats the place we are getting to. Everybody these days wants to take the "easy" way out...and like it or not the perception out there is that anabolics are just another supplement. I just dont get that its OK to cheat if you're hitting some poor quarterback and trying to plant his ass like a turnip, but not if you are a fighter. I'm not saying its right or wrong, just saying that it seems to me these guys who are fighting and interested in aas have as much of a valid reason for using as the (for instance) college football player who is using. Does that make sense guys? Now, I also feel like aas are not really going to be as beneficial to the fighters out there as they might think. And I can say that with a high level of confidence...Fighting really is a different kind of game! But does that mean we just blow em off? Its bothering me guys. Seems like one hell of a double standard.
I agree. I played college football at a large school. EVERY lineman was using. I believe in my heart EVERY lineman on the other team was using. The real question that arises is the ethical question. I was way to young and stupid to make proper choices. I cannot imagine how horrible I would feel now if I can seriously hurt someone who was not using. Most sports such as football have injuries that are more by chance. In MMA from the very little I know (just a very casual fan) an injury could be rather brutal and the ethical questions become more difficult.
At the end of the day each person in every sport has to weigh the ethics involved and then decide for themselves. As long as people have a drive and desire to compete they will look for an advantage. Be if effort or chemical. I do know that at my current age I would never take chemicals to give myself an advantage in a physical sport but for five years I did just that so I guess I am the pot calling the kettle black.
The ethics involved in this are really intense though and worth someone researching. I have no idea the percentage of MMA fighters using but that number would change the ethical equation. It also seems as though lately we have had quite a few MMA people in here asking questions so perhaps they all do use.
Cool discussion hope more people get involved and maybe shed some light on the MMA aspect. I can say in college football in the late 80s early 90s it was assumed the lineman used and that was just the way it was.
Walter
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I totally see what you are saying... I think in ALL sports there should be two classes... one where aas is allowed and one where it isn't... You actually level the playing field...
I personally like football and baseball BETTER when the guys are running gear... Nothing says "Professional Sports" like a bunch of meat covered robots on the field doing what they do... They get paid to play... let them play, who cares if they don't live past 60... They were once great players... look how popular Baseball was when Mark McGuire was smashing the fuck out of the ball... The WHOLE WORLD WAS WATCHING...
Who doesn't love to see a 300lb defensive lineman knock the helmet off the QB? I love it!
As for MMA, I say the same thing... put those fucker on gear and let them fight... But make sure if one is on so is the other!
I would love to see two dudes the size of Brock Lestner get in the ring and fuck each other up... but you better have EMS on site and ready... because with the extra strength at that size you could literally KILL your opponent with one blow...
Now that I think of it, it would not surprise me at all if some of the "pro" MMA guys are running gear...
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