Chest Tips

[ricknash]

Ok, i have been lifting on and off for years. Im not the strongest ive been but i build muscle very easily. and the last couple years when i stopped workin out as much and ate unhealthily, tho i always had this problem, it got worse. I think my pecs retain way more fat compared to the rest of my body. About aroudn the nipple and below. I have been working out hard for the past 2 months and eating perfect. i have lost so much and i am getting way more cut now but my pecs still look to fat and semi boob like hahaha when the rest of my body is cut and defined and skinny.
How would u recomend me burn the shit out of my pec/lower pecs to try and get all that fat out of there and kinda shrink them and cut them more?


and question #2, what are the best excerszies for working between pecs, in the tie-ins?
thank you again

 

[Get er Done]

Ok, i have been lifting on and off for years. Im not the strongest ive been but i build muscle very easily. and the last couple years when i stopped workin out as much and ate unhealthily, tho i always had this problem, it got worse. I think my pecs retain way more fat compared to the rest of my body. About aroudn the nipple and below. I have been working out hard for the past 2 months and eating perfect. i have lost so much and i am getting way more cut now but my pecs still look to fat and semi boob like hahaha when the rest of my body is cut and defined and skinny.
How would u recomend me burn the shit out of my pec/lower pecs to try and get all that fat out of there and kinda shrink them and cut them more?


and question #2, what are the best excerszies for working between pecs, in the tie-ins?
thank you again

you cant spot reduce fat at the pec area. also maybe you have gyno

 

[bryan361]

Can you say lyposuction

I have a similar problem that is not gyno. As a last resort I've been thinking about using Clenbuterol and/or T3, but I'm still going to give adding a bit more cardio per week a little more chance to see if the stubborn fat will go away.

 

[ricknash]

you cant spot reduce fat at the pec area. also maybe you have gyno

hmm how would i get gyno, im a young male, very very fit athletically, high test i think, bloomed late.

Can you say lyposuction

I have a similar problem that is not gyno. As a last resort I've been thinking about using Clenbuterol and/or T3, but I'm still going to give adding a bit more cardio per week a little more chance to see if the stubborn fat will go away.

no way, im skinny its just i have an excess of fat at the nip level.
whats the best thing to use for cuts for a short term thing?

 

[Girth]

As stated earlier, you could have developed gyno, regardless of gear use or the lack thereof. But at the same time, you could be someone whose prone to carrying fat in that area. Myself, I could have manboobs and still have a 6 pack.

To be honest, you may have to simply diet more. Truly "stubborn" fat areas will take longer than 2 months to dissipate. I'm not sure what you are using as a fat loss aid, if you are. But if not, some EC would be good along with Yohimbine HCL and Tyramine. If you can take that much stimulation of course. Start with EC, add the Yo in increments. Many can't take Yo's effects.

As for exercises to "work the tie-ins". Forget about that nonsense. Work the big exercises (perhaps I should say exercise), and let the fat loss bring out the tie in. That's really what brings it out.

 

[Blue09]

I had gyno during the early teen (ages ~14/15) years. No idea what it was at the time....thought I had breast cancer....lol. Sometimes guys get it even without the use of gear. You could just have high estrogen levels. Remember, high test levels does NOT mean you have low estrogen, you can have high levels of both.....test. will not reduce gyno or prevent it.

Or, you could just be holding regular fat there. In that case, you're just going to have to keep hitting the cardio to burn the fat off. As stated before, you can't burn fat from one specific area....your body will burn fat in a pattern which differs from person to person.

One way to check if it's gyno is to see whether or not the area is sensitive. Also, fat is usually mush and easily moved around....with gyno, I found that my nipples were extremely sensitive and also hard pertrusions from behind the nips. Check to see which it is....

 

[Goku]

alright, since nobody bothered helping with the training aspect of it, i will. To build a perfect chest you have to work out the whole chest; including flat, incline and decline. To make your chest give the apperance you want you have to increase the size of your upper chest. for most of my excerises i do sets of 3X8, but i too wanted to flatten out my chest so i changed my workout to be flatbench 3X8, incline bench, 4X6, and decline bench 3X10. I also make sure to include incline fly's for 3X8. And let me tell you i've seen a dramatic improvement in my chest that i thought i'd never see in only 6 weeks. Its not a strengthening program to say the least, but it will give you the chest you've always wanted.

 

[ricknash]

alright, since nobody bothered helping with the training aspect of it, i will. To build a perfect chest you have to work out the whole chest; including flat, incline and decline. To make your chest give the apperance you want you have to increase the size of your upper chest. for most of my excerises i do sets of 3X8, but i too wanted to flatten out my chest so i changed my workout to be flatbench 3X8, incline bench, 4X6, and decline bench 3X10. I also make sure to include incline fly's for 3X8. And let me tell you i've seen a dramatic improvement in my chest that i thought i'd never see in only 6 weeks. Its not a strengthening program to say the least, but it will give you the chest you've always wanted.

thanx bro ill be sure to try that out post haste!

so im guessing when u say 3X8 etc, u mean 3 sets of 8? etc.

thanx

 

[Goku]

Yea, 3 sets of 8. Also include another excersise or two to your preference.. if you want a leaner chest do a compound set at the end. Cable cross-overs for 8 and pushups to failure.

 

[Girth]

ricknash - for your own sake, please ignore goku's advice. Sorry goku, but you are spouting from a well of misinformation. I will agree that you aren't doing a strengthening routine, for sure. Who could with that many exercises. "PERHAPS" you could use a different exercise for the chest, with each successive workout, but never 3-4 in the same workout.

I will stop here, as it could be a long response. I and others mentioned the proper advice previously. PLEASE heed it.

 

[Grizzly]

if you want a leaner chest

...stop eating so much. No exercise, compounded, supersetted, upsidedowned, over the topped or any other variety will have any effect on the bf level of your chest. The only exercise which will benefit you in that regard is "table pushaways", and all they entail is pushing your ass away from the dinner table.

 

[Goku]

ricknash - for your own sake, please ignore goku's advice. Sorry goku, but you are spouting from a well of misinformation. I will agree that you aren't doing a strengthening routine, for sure. Who could with that many exercises. "PERHAPS" you could use a different exercise for the chest, with each successive workout, but never 3-4 in the same workout.

I will stop here, as it could be a long response. I and others mentioned the proper advice previously. PLEASE heed it.

let me guess.. you're one of "those people" that walk around doing 5 different body parts. Thats not the way to train. You do chest, and you do it hard. Give it a weeks rest and do it hard again. No questions asked. If you've lifted long enough, than you can do a body part twice a week. Until then, leave the advice to a personal trainer (my best friends are twins, both personal trainers), not a novice.

 

[Goku]

...stop eating so much. No exercise, compounded, supersetted, upsidedowned, over the topped or any other variety will have any effect on the bf level of your chest. The only exercise which will benefit you in that regard is "table pushaways", and all they entail is pushing your ass away from the dinner table.

that should be commen sense for him.. that and running.

 

[Grizzly]

let me guess.. you're one of "those people" that walk around doing 5 different body parts. Thats not the way to train. You do chest, and you do it hard. Give it a weeks rest and do it hard again. No questions asked. If you've lifted long enough, than you can do a body part twice a week. Until then, leave the advice to a personal trainer (my best friends are twins, both personal trainers), not a novice.

LMMFGDAO!! LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL

I see someone hasn't read the stickies. It also might explain the need to spend 6 months planning a friggin' cycle.

 

[Girth]

Thanks Grizz....I'm bowing out now.

 

[Goku]

the 5X5 program should only be done for a short periud of time if your trying to increase strength and change your workout. Otherwise, u'll over train that body part and undertrain others.. its commen sense. Seriously, what do you think BB's do??????????????????????? they especially dont do 5X5 program. And spending 6 months researching a cycle is extremly important.. especially since i'd like it to be my last. I dont wanna be on juice forever.. i train hard, keep training hard, only will use it if i have to, the way juice should be used.

 

[Grizzly]

Is that so? I guess the deloading period is just for show then. I suppose Olympic lifters are chronically overtrained in every muscle group with their multiple times/week squatting, 2 or 3 times/day training and all. I suppose that proper programming is useless. The thousands of people who train like that all just happen to fall in the genetic elite.

 

[Goku]

Is that so? I guess the deloading period is just for show then. I suppose Olympic lifters are chronically overtrained in every muscle group with their multiple times/week squatting, 2 or 3 times/day training and all. I suppose that proper programming is useless. The thousands of people who train like that all just happen to fall in the genetic elite.

So you're trying to compare an Olympic powerlifters body to a BB?? hmm.. from just the looks of it, comparing the two, the better body and more evenly trained body.. drum roll please.. (all know the answer to this). This is just a another powerlifter vs BB debate. Like i said in my post, the program i designed for him is in no way a strengthening routine. Are you trying to tell me people who just do bench have better chests than those who work out the whole chest? So those guys that make the cover of mags do bench 3 times a week and nothing else? Everybody was telling him he had gyno and he didn't even mention steroids or having lumps!! i do chest, shoulders, bi's and tri's twice a week also.. i never said to only do it once, i just said that its wise to give your body enough rest until it can handle it. That isn't good advice?

 

[Grizzly]

No, what I'm saying is the "if you follow the 5X5 or, by extension, any dual factor, multiple session program, you will overtrain thing is bullshit. By bringing to the table the Olympic lifters, I was showing that training upwards of 15X/wk is perfectly doable while still making gains....and setting PRs.

 

[Goku]

those who compete in the olympics aren't the genetic elite? Strength gains will constantly come, thats what 5X5 program was designed for, but better size gains will come if you change up your workout from time to time, you don't agree with me on that? Is muscle memory just a bunch of bullshit?