@songsofpyramids I’ve seen that you took cjc + ipa, how did the allergy develop? Any idea about the cause? Was it to both compounds? Where did you source it?
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songsofpyramids
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It just happened suddenly one day. Went to do my third injection of the day and it gave me swollen lumps on every spot I’d ever used mod grf 1-29 on my body. I tried again half a year later with a different brand’s mod grf and even 10mcg of mod grf caused the reaction, and about a year after that did the same attempt with my buddy’s stuff from a third source and same reaction. Ipamorelin remains totally fine for me. I suspect I experienced the immunogenicity that the FDA banned compounding of the peptide over.
Like a cumulative immune reaction, very interesting. See things like this are not mentioned by UL, at my understanding the worst thing that could happen is growth hormone side effects (organ enlargement, etc) but way milder and only if you abuse and keep during a long period of time.
How did you stop after you concluded that you were allergic?
Did you stop doing both or were you gradually dosing less? If so, Were you “clean” after this? For how long?
During this period, what were your Results? general feelings? Did you monitor glucose levels or/ and did anything else to prevent risks?
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songsofpyramids
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Stopped both right away cause it scared me and I saw a bunch of similar anecdotal reports. Any amount of mod grf I do causes it now, even 10mcg over a year and a half later causes the hives in every mod grf injection site. Ipamorelin doesn’t do anything but slight isr and works as it’s supposed to.
I monitor all that shit fairly religiously and nothing out of the ordinary happened. Secretagogues barely impacted glucose for me.
Prior to the reaction I was getting alright results. It pushed my igf1 around 60-80, I dropped fat slightly faster, but the biggest benefit I got was incredible sleep hygiene benefits. More sws and rem by about an hour.
A slight dopamine/general well being sense. Not anywhere as strong as hgh.
I honestly doubt secretagogues are powerful enough to do this.
My biggest takeaway from the experience is that these peptides are research chemicals banned by the fda on reasonable grounds, and it did a fairly good job of scaring me off research chems in general. I suspect there are a lot of allergic reactions to these peptides going unreported, and that enough did get reported for the fda to take notice and ban compounding.
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What were your levels before and what was your age?
songsofpyramids
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182 igf1 early 40s. I suspect deeply if you were to use these peptides you’d get an even smaller response because your pituitary is already running full blast due to your age.
Elektrobot
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Why would the side effects of increased GH or IGF be any different if they were induced by exogenous GH or by exogenous secretagogues?
Saying they aren't powerful enough to create the same side effects is acknowledging that they don't elicit the same outcome.
songsofpyramids
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Because I don’t think the GH response from secretagogues is strong enough to impact body systems like that. If you can find me blood work of people on secretagogues showing supraphysiological levels of igf1 maybe you’d have grounds to stand on, but I’ve looked extensively at the testing on various forums over the years and haven’t seen it once.
They just simply do not have the same outcome as using hgh. That’s exactly what I’m saying.
Elektrobot
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Agreed
